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* [[Doctor Who (TV)/Series 1/Headscratchers|Series 1]]
* [[Doctor Who/Series 1/Headscratchers|Series 1]]
* [[Doctor Who (TV)/Series 2/Headscratchers|Series 2]]
* [[Doctor Who/Series 2/Headscratchers|Series 2]]
* [[Doctor Who (TV)/Series 3/Headscratchers|Series 3]]
* [[Doctor Who/Series 3/Headscratchers|Series 3]]
* [[Doctor Who (TV)/Series 4/Headscratchers|Series 4]] ("Time Crash" and "Voyage of the Damned" through "Journey's End")
* [[Doctor Who/Series 4/Headscratchers|Series 4]] ("Time Crash" and "Voyage of the Damned" through "Journey's End")
* [[Doctor Who (TV)/2009 Specials/Headscratchers|The 2009 Specials]] ("The Next Doctor" to ''The End of Time'')
* [[Doctor Who/2009 Specials/Headscratchers|The 2009 Specials]] ("The Next Doctor" to ''The End of Time'')
* [[Doctor Who (TV)/Series 5/Headscratchers|Series 5]]
* [[Doctor Who/Series 5/Headscratchers|Series 5]]
* [[Doctor Who (TV)/Series 6/Headscratchers|Series 6]]
* [[Doctor Who/Series 6/Headscratchers|Series 6]]
* [[Doctor Who (TV)/Series 7/Headscratchers|Series 7]]
* [[Doctor Who/Series 7/Headscratchers|Series 7]]
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** In the EU, Ace either:
** In the EU, Ace either:
** a) Dies heroically as a teenager saving the universe in some way or another (in a ''[[Doctor Who Magazine (Magazine)|Doctor Who Magazine]]'' comic "Ground Zero").
** a) Dies heroically as a teenager saving the universe in some way or another (in a ''[[Doctor Who Magazine (Magazine)|Doctor Who Magazine]]'' comic "Ground Zero").
** b) Circa her mid-twenties, after a career as a combination of [[Dark Action Girl]] and [[Nineties Anti Hero]] when by most fan accounts she turned into [[The Scrappy]], parts from the Doctor, who gives her her own time motorcycle and polices the timeline of Paris (according to the novel ''Set Piece'' by Kate Orman).
** b) Circa her mid-twenties, after a career as a combination of [[Dark Action Girl]] and [[Nineties Anti-Hero]] when by most fan accounts she turned into [[The Scrappy]], parts from the Doctor, who gives her her own time motorcycle and polices the timeline of Paris (according to the novel ''Set Piece'' by Kate Orman).
** c) Changes her name to Mc Shane and still travels with the Doctor and another companion named Hector or "Hex" (in the ongoing audio plays from [[Big Finish]]).
** c) Changes her name to Mc Shane and still travels with the Doctor and another companion named Hector or "Hex" (in the ongoing audio plays from [[Big Finish]]).
** d) Or eventually becomes the last-but-one of the Time Lords after the death (and we mean literal ''death'') of the Doctor in the [[Elseworlds]]-ish webcast ''Death Comes to Time''. (Another Time Lord, the Minister of Chance, carries on for the Doctor.) (This last came out prior to the new series revival.) Obviously, the [[Expanded Universe]] contradicts itself a lot. Most notoriously in the case of Ace.
** d) Or eventually becomes the last-but-one of the Time Lords after the death (and we mean literal ''death'') of the Doctor in the [[Elseworlds]]-ish webcast ''Death Comes to Time''. (Another Time Lord, the Minister of Chance, carries on for the Doctor.) (This last came out prior to the new series revival.) Obviously, the [[Expanded Universe]] contradicts itself a lot. Most notoriously in the case of Ace.
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**** So humans can be turned into Time Lords? The more you know...
**** So humans can be turned into Time Lords? The more you know...
**** Although this has never been dealt with in the series, it is a common fan theory that "Time Lord" and "Gallifreyan" are not the same thing. Time Lord is a title received by going through the Academy, so a person who is not from Gallifrey could theoretically achieve it. On the other hand, the new series has referred to Time Lord as the Doctor's race, and he himself has mentioned having "Time Lord DNA", so this could all be utter nonsense.
**** Although this has never been dealt with in the series, it is a common fan theory that "Time Lord" and "Gallifreyan" are not the same thing. Time Lord is a title received by going through the Academy, so a person who is not from Gallifrey could theoretically achieve it. On the other hand, the new series has referred to Time Lord as the Doctor's race, and he himself has mentioned having "Time Lord DNA", so this could all be utter nonsense.
***** [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S15 E6 The Invasion of Time|The Invasion of Time]] features a group of "savage" Gallifreyans, ones who reside and survive outside the Citadel and clearly lack the cognitive abilites of their fellow Time Lords. Besides, it's been a recurring concept in the classic series that Gallifreyans were just another race of near-humans until Rassilon used his miraculous infinite source of energy, the Eye of Harmony<ref>actually a black hole, which he somehow discovered how to "harvest"</ref> for the invention of all their time-related technology, including the TARDISes, and to introduce and provide power to the regeneration process.
***** [[Doctor Who/Recap/S15 E6 The Invasion of Time|The Invasion of Time]] features a group of "savage" Gallifreyans, ones who reside and survive outside the Citadel and clearly lack the cognitive abilites of their fellow Time Lords. Besides, it's been a recurring concept in the classic series that Gallifreyans were just another race of near-humans until Rassilon used his miraculous infinite source of energy, the Eye of Harmony<ref>actually a black hole, which he somehow discovered how to "harvest"</ref> for the invention of all their time-related technology, including the TARDISes, and to introduce and provide power to the regeneration process.
***** The answer has been revealed! [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S32 E7 A Good Man Goes to War|Doctor Who]] confirms it - Amy Pond's daughter Melody {{spoiler|aka River Song}}, is human, but has got traces of Time Lord DNA - exposure to the time vortex can make you a Time Lord even when you're still in the womb!
***** The answer has been revealed! [[Doctor Who/Recap/S32 E7 A Good Man Goes to War|Doctor Who]] confirms it - Amy Pond's daughter Melody {{spoiler|aka River Song}}, is human, but has got traces of Time Lord DNA - exposure to the time vortex can make you a Time Lord even when you're still in the womb!
****** It can give you Time Lord features but even further messing around to try to create a Time Lord on the part of the villains only gave her ''some'' Time Lord DNA.
****** It can give you Time Lord features but even further messing around to try to create a Time Lord on the part of the villains only gave her ''some'' Time Lord DNA.
***** Maybe "Gazing into the heart of time" and whatever other fun little ceremony the Time Lords put the adepts through messed up their DNA, and thus "Time Lord DNA" differs from Human AND Gallifreyan DNA and they are thus a species of their own?
***** Maybe "Gazing into the heart of time" and whatever other fun little ceremony the Time Lords put the adepts through messed up their DNA, and thus "Time Lord DNA" differs from Human AND Gallifreyan DNA and they are thus a species of their own?
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== Traveling to before the Time Lock ==
== Traveling to before the Time Lock ==
* The Time Lords are all dead, right, but can one time travel to before the Time War? Could a Time Lord travle TO the Time War? I mean, the Time War can't be THAT locked, the Dalek Emperor from the first series of [[Doctor Who (TV)|NuWho]] and the Cult of Skaro where able to get out. In fact, one of the Cult was able to go back in and get Davros!
* The Time Lords are all dead, right, but can one time travel to before the Time War? Could a Time Lord travle TO the Time War? I mean, the Time War can't be THAT locked, the Dalek Emperor from the first series of [[Doctor Who|NuWho]] and the Cult of Skaro where able to get out. In fact, one of the Cult was able to go back in and get Davros!
** Both those examples would indicate that yes, it's possible to break through the time lock... provided you don't mind ending up completely insane.
** Both those examples would indicate that yes, it's possible to break through the time lock... provided you don't mind ending up completely insane.
** The Medusa Cascade is described as being the oldest thing in the Universe... perhaps it IS the Time Lock.
** The Medusa Cascade is described as being the oldest thing in the Universe... perhaps it IS the Time Lock.
** There is no "before" the Time Lock. The events of the Time War were almost [[Ret Gone|completely written out of the timestream]]. As for how the Daleks ({{spoiler|and later, the Time Lords, however briefly}}) were able to leave it... well, anything that can be locked can be unlocked, if you know how.
** There is no "before" the Time Lock. The events of the Time War were almost [[Ret-Gone|completely written out of the timestream]]. As for how the Daleks ({{spoiler|and later, the Time Lords, however briefly}}) were able to leave it... well, anything that can be locked can be unlocked, if you know how.




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** Personally I've always assumed that the Silence we're talking about on this page are not The Silence that Calvierri was talking about- for one, it doesn't explain that bit at the end when all noise stops, and neither does it explain the TARDIS being taken over. More likely, it's some sort of mysterious, powerful, and literal Silence that represents, um, silence.
** Personally I've always assumed that the Silence we're talking about on this page are not The Silence that Calvierri was talking about- for one, it doesn't explain that bit at the end when all noise stops, and neither does it explain the TARDIS being taken over. More likely, it's some sort of mysterious, powerful, and literal Silence that represents, um, silence.


* As of [[Doctor Who (TV)/Recap/S32 E8 Let's Kill Hitler|Let's Kill Hitler]], {{spoiler|"The Silence is not a species. it is a religious order, or movement." So what is the species (the one that you forget) called, then? Unless this is some sort of [[Fridge Brilliance]] about how they forgot the species.}}
* As of [[Doctor Who/Recap/S32 E8 Let's Kill Hitler|Let's Kill Hitler]], {{spoiler|"The Silence is not a species. it is a religious order, or movement." So what is the species (the one that you forget) called, then? Unless this is some sort of [[Fridge Brilliance]] about how they forgot the species.}}
** {{spoiler|Maybe people of any species can join the religious order, and when they do they convert themselves into proper Silents like we've seen before.}}
** {{spoiler|Maybe people of any species can join the religious order, and when they do they convert themselves into proper Silents like we've seen before.}}


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*** It has also been a running gag since the original series that the Doctor really isn't able to pilot the TARDIS all that well. Apart from the rather spotty control that most of the Doctors seemed to have about reaching precise points and locations the Fourth Doctor admitted to having shot the owners manual for the TARDIS into space at one point and Romana was a much better TARDIS pilot than the Doctor was. This continued into the new series, with ''Journey's End'' revealing that the TARDIS is meant to be piloted by six people and that the Doctor did a lot of jiggery-pokery to get it to where he could run it by himself. Not to mention River Song's revelation that the infamous grinding noise of the TARDIS materializing is due to The Doctor leaving the parking brake on.
*** It has also been a running gag since the original series that the Doctor really isn't able to pilot the TARDIS all that well. Apart from the rather spotty control that most of the Doctors seemed to have about reaching precise points and locations the Fourth Doctor admitted to having shot the owners manual for the TARDIS into space at one point and Romana was a much better TARDIS pilot than the Doctor was. This continued into the new series, with ''Journey's End'' revealing that the TARDIS is meant to be piloted by six people and that the Doctor did a lot of jiggery-pokery to get it to where he could run it by himself. Not to mention River Song's revelation that the infamous grinding noise of the TARDIS materializing is due to The Doctor leaving the parking brake on.
** Re: The TARDIS' sentience. There is quite a bit of debate as to just how sentient the TARDIS is and to what degree it can control itself. It could be that the very nature of the TARDIS prevents such an auto-pilot from being possible since it would tantamount to [[Mind Control]] of another sentient, which is something The Doctor would personally be against.
** Re: The TARDIS' sentience. There is quite a bit of debate as to just how sentient the TARDIS is and to what degree it can control itself. It could be that the very nature of the TARDIS prevents such an auto-pilot from being possible since it would tantamount to [[Mind Control]] of another sentient, which is something The Doctor would personally be against.
*** Fair enough on all points. That being said, he still could have tried something. I mean, there must have been a way for him to figure it out. Heck, if the TARDIS is sentient to some degree, why not do a mind meld or some kind of psychic whammy to establish a system: say, if you hear something yelling [[Omnicidal Maniac|EXTERMINATE!!!]] [[Cybernetics Will Eat Your Soul|DELETE!!!]] or [[Blood Knight|SONTAR HA!!!]] come running. And if you see [[Eldritch Abomination|statue of a Angel,]] [[Oh Crap|THEN FOR GODS SAKES, HAUL ASS AND SAVE MY TIME LORD BEHIND BEFORE I'M]] [[Ret Gone|RETGONED!!!]]See, simple. Heck the TARDIS having a brain makes it even easier.
*** Fair enough on all points. That being said, he still could have tried something. I mean, there must have been a way for him to figure it out. Heck, if the TARDIS is sentient to some degree, why not do a mind meld or some kind of psychic whammy to establish a system: say, if you hear something yelling [[Omnicidal Maniac|EXTERMINATE!!!]] [[Cybernetics Will Eat Your Soul|DELETE!!!]] or [[Blood Knight|SONTAR HA!!!]] come running. And if you see [[Eldritch Abomination|statue of a Angel,]] [[Oh Crap|THEN FOR GODS SAKES, HAUL ASS AND SAVE MY TIME LORD BEHIND BEFORE I'M]] [[Ret-Gone|RETGONED!!!]]See, simple. Heck the TARDIS having a brain makes it even easier.
*** ......Angels don't Ret Gone? Are you confusing that with the cracks they fell into in one episode?
*** ......Angels don't Ret Gone? Are you confusing that with the cracks they fell into in one episode?
**** Considering how unreliable the TARDIS is at the best of times (twelve months too late, over a decade late, oops, this is Cwmtaff, not Rio), the last thing I'd want is it trying to materialise around me on autopilot. Squashed Doctor, anyone?
**** Considering how unreliable the TARDIS is at the best of times (twelve months too late, over a decade late, oops, this is Cwmtaff, not Rio), the last thing I'd want is it trying to materialise around me on autopilot. Squashed Doctor, anyone?
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