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Wild Mass Guessing about ''[[{{TOPLEVELPAGE}}]]'' includes:
== Archdemons, Darkspawn, etc ==
=== The Archdemons are holding back the mother of all Blights ===
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Future games will have you face other Magisters, and once they're all dead, the darkspawn will be cured.
* IIRC the Architect's origin is just that he was born an unusually smart darkspawn. The Mother was just one his experiments.
* The part about the Mother is Jossed in Awakening,
** Corypheus is also the main villain for Dragon Age: Inquisition.
=== There's a very good reason why the Mother referred to the Architect as "the Father." ===
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Leliana, a very well trained spy who outright admits she can shape her personality to become "the girl you fall in love with" appears, out of the blue, with some convincing sob story to get the warden to take her along. She then befriends the warden, and possibly seduces him/her. This is pretty classic espionage, really. It fits, too, being as Leliana has basically become chantry special forces by Dragon Age 2. The entire time she was travelling with the warden, she was gathering intelligence for the Chantry. Once you get to the ashes, you find out her story was made up. Now, one could dismiss her as simply wanting attention, but think about it. How would she know where the warden was going to be and when? How did she even know that the warden was alive? She has an intelligence network feeding her intel, that's how. That intelligence network is a part of the Chantry. Priestesses, templars, all keeping an eye open and feeding information back to Leliana.
* All of the companions have their own 'personal item', which they come pre-equipped with and which usually relates to their past somehow. Leliana's item? An amulet called the "Seeker's Circle". And who is she working for in Dragon Age 2? The Seekers.
* Sadly, this theory has been entirely Jossed by Dragon Age: Inquisition. Leliana reveals in that game that she was recruited as the Chantry spymaster ''after'' Dragon Age 1, at the same time that the former Revered Mother of Lothering rose to become the new Divine.
=== The Chantry is one gigantic scam. ===
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=== The Maker is Fen'Harel from the Elven Pantheon ===
The codex entry for Fen'Harel states that he could move among the Elven gods, and more violent gods of another people. The Elven tale says he tricked both pantheons to remove them selves to their respective realms while he worked out a Truce(what he told the Elven gods) or brought about the Elven gods downfall(what he told the Forgotten Ones/the other gods). The latter group retreated into the abyss, where they were sealed away. The Chant of Light says the Maker sealed the Old Gods beneath the earth in prisons where they would sleep. These seem a little to similar too me to be a coincidence.
* Jossed by the post-credits stinger and the Trespasser DLC for Dragon Age: Inquisition, which reveals the identity of Fen'Harel. {{Spoiler|It's Solas.}}
=== All the mythologies in the setting are true ===
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And if played skillfully enough, end up {{spoiler|OPENLY becoming the mistress of the King of Fereldan (while being an Orlesian!) and confessing being a Bard/Spy/Assassin to said King's face, and perhaps be more loved then the Queen by said King AND Chantry (as a lay sister) with Orlesian support to boot! Her children might actually be royalty one day...}}, playing the game far better than Marjolaine could have dreamed.
* Played with in Dragon Age: Inquisition. While that reveals that Leliana ''did'' get back into The Game regardless of dialogue choices in Dragon Age Origins, at the highest levels of Chantry black ops, the reason she did so is because her original spiritual mentor - the Revered Mother of Lothering - had been promoted to become the new Divine and one of her first acts was to recruit Leliana for her personal staff and then tell her 'I need you to go back to what you used to do for a living, but this time it'll be the Maker's work'.
== Flemeth, Morrigan, and The Ritual ==
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* Makes sense in Dred Pirate Roberts sort of way. The legend of Flemeth, the ageless Witch of the Wilds, would be a great way to keep outsiders away whether it's still her original spirit or not.
* Partially jossed: In Dragon Age 2 we find out {{spoiler|Flemeth had a way out the entire time.}}
* Entirely jossed: In Dragon Age: Inquisition we find out that every word of Flemeth's origin story as presented in Origins was literally true. She actually ''is'' an ancient Chasind sorceress that got possessed/merged with an ancient, unbelievably powerful Fade spirit, {{Spoiler|specifically the remaining essence of the murdered elven goddess Mythal}}, and has been alive the entire time. The only thing that turns out to be wrong is {{Spoiler|she doesn't actually steal the bodies of her children.}}.
=== Morrigan's child will be able to shapeshift into a dragon or even an archdemon ===
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=== Maric is alive ===
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20100906013813/http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/47/index/174084/2 His fate is described as being lost at sea], a classic literary technique to keep a character out of the way until the writer wants to being him back in the action.
** [http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Maric#Death According to the Dragon Age Wiki,] rumor has it that Maric is alive and being held in an Orlesian prison. Many signs point to Orlais being the setting of Dragon Age III . . .
** {{spoiler|Hinted at in The Silent Grove! He was actually in an Antivan prison but was broken out by a Witch of the Wilds.}}
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Hows that for a WMG?
=== Thedas is a part of [[The Lord of the Rings|Arda.]] ===
Albeit the southern hemisphere of Arda. The continent of Middle-earth resides in the western part of that world. Dragon Age takes place around the same time as The Lord of the Rings.
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I should probably rephrase that they * might* , but a lot of your personal decisions won't make a difference. I'm ''really really really'' hoping I'm wrong, but everything seems to indicate that. Besides the incredibly short amount of time in between this game, and the new game (February 2011), Awakening ignored an obvious decision: whether your character sacrificed themselves. Besides that, the obvious [[Sequel Hook]] of the God Baby...if they choose to be faithful to your decision, you'd think a ''gigantic'' plot element would be missing. Then there's Eamon's foreshadowing of Connor, if you didn't kill him: that's another plot point they'd have to ignore if they allowed your decisions to carry through. I know they did this for ME, but the decisions of [[Mass Effect]] 1 aren't as phenomenally important as they are in [[Dragon Age]]. Perhaps this can be avoided by the game occuring in a different country (who cares who's king of Orzammar when you have Kal-Sharok! Who cares about the Ferelden Circle when you can visit Orlais' Circle! Who cares if you're Queen of Ferelden, when you can be the Empress's kid! I have a strong feeling the next game will occur in Orlais.), but that's just a different way of ignoring your decisions: by making them unimportant.
* This troper is inclined to believe that the game will allow a partial transfer, the same as the Awakening, with a few most major choices pre-written, but a few others still free to change, along with your stats and appearance, ofcourse.
* This has been Jossed by [[Word of God]]; [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/3153797/1#3154321 you ''will'' be able to trasnfer your Origins and Awakening saves to Dragon Age 2]{{Dead link}}, although who knows what choices you made will truly have any effect...
=== Hawke will have a grudge against the Gray Wardens ===
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*** {{spoiler|If you persuade Cailan's bodyguard at Ostagar (prior to the battle, of course), he'll tell you that he heard Cailan and Loghain arguing about Anora, although he wasn't paying close enough attention to hear too many details.}}
*** At PAX, David Gaider confirmed that {{spoiler|Cailan was planning on dumping Anora for Celene and that Loghain was lying when he said he didn't know about that.}}
*** However, Dragon Age: Inquisition reveals that Empress Celene is a lesbian and had absolutely zero interest in marrying anyone, so...
=== The entire story of Origins was a result of a [[Xanatos Gambit]] by King Cailan. ===
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* Some of her dialogues with Zevran are also kind of flirtatious, such as [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZVgRgwQCkg&feature=related one] where Hardened Leliana dares him to remove his pants in front of her to "disprove some myths about elven men" before she'll "consider a tumble." In [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX_hCSEfLEk another] a Warden of either gender who is romancing Zevran can ask her if she's been watching him, which nets a flustered response. The Warden can then tell her, "He's been claimed. My apologies."
* Some of her dialogue indicates that Leliana does not believe [[If It's You It's Okay]] is a valid foundation for a long-term emotional and physical relationship. (The only kind that she's interested in.) If a male Warden cheats on her with Zevran and then chooses certain dialogue options, she'll say, "You don't have to deny it. I always thought there was something missing between us. Now I know what that is," and break off the relationship. That indicates to me that she does not think that a heterosexual relationship between herself and a predominantly homosexual man would work, even if they liked each other. She ''might'' have just meant that "it" was that there was "someone else" in the picture, but the context that she said it in raises eyebrows—and she does ''not'' say the same thing to a female Warden who breaks up with her in the same manner by sleeping with Zevran. (Instead she says, "I think I [[Mistaken for Gay|made a mistake]] about you. It's not your fault, I'm sorry. Let's just put this behind us?") I have to wonder why she would think a relationship between herself and a straight male Warden would work if she was entirely homosexual herself.
* Remember that Leliana's primary character trait is ''devotion''. If she's in love with you she's not going to show any attraction to ''anyone'' else, regardless of gender.
=== Sten's stoicism has nothing to do with him being Qunari or his natural character, but is a symptom of the cultural alienation resulting from his exile in Ferelden. ===
* Theory upheld! Dragon Age: Inquisition reveals that qunari are often very taciturn around southerners because followers of the Qun feel ashamed to display lack of mastery of a skill before strangers... including language skills. More simply, if they aren't ''very'' fluent in whatever Thedas uses for the common tongue (remember that qunari have their own language) then it will take extraordinary circumstances for them to talk at all. Since Sten is a soldier and not a linguist, he's not going to use a single unnecessary word because he's embarassed by his lack of fluency.
=== Leliana is the reincarnation of Andraste. ===
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=== Alistair isn't the last of Maric's kids. ===
Think about it: we know that either Alistair was lied to about his parentage, or Maric has another bastard running around out there. And who do we meet, but a guy who's a mage (like the mother of the possible unknown baby), has a similar sense of humor to both Alistair and Maric, and [https://web.archive.org/web/20131214184253/http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb21710/common/skins/common/blank.gif looks] suspiciously like [http://journal.wheel-of-games.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/cailan_330x280.png Cailan]{{Dead link}} and [https://web.archive.org/web/20131214184253/http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb21710/common/skins/common/blank.gif Alistair]?
Hell, for bonus points, check out [http://social.bioware.com/project/2754/ Anderstair], Alistair with Anders' hair.
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Because the Dragonborn and Morrigan's child from the Ritual are essentially the same thing, mortals with the soul of Dragons.
** Except that in the Elder Scrolls, Dragons are [[Physical
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