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* Bra also doesn't seem to be able to turn into SSJ easily -- oreasily—or at least has far too little interest in fighting to even try. Which might lend credibility to this theory.

* Bulma found a dragon ball in her basement to make the radar -- presumablyradar—presumably someone just randomly picked it up or bought it as a fancy jewel. No wishes had previously been granted in 100 years, I think the manga says this.

* Remember, it was only in the anime that #17 has a male voice. Maybe in the manga Toriyama intended for them to sound the same--aftersame—after all, they look exactly the same except for the hair. And #17's bandanna could be covering up some cleavage...

* [[Unfortunate Implications|Oh my god, you mean there's a strong guy in ]]''[[Dragon Ball]]''[[Unfortunate Implications| who doesn't have 24-inch pythons unless he gets fused with his clone from hell in an ]][[Dragon Ball GT|alternate continuation]][[Unfortunate Implications|? EGADS!]]

It takes a different trigger to do so. Men are transformed by rage (Goten might be the exception, as Vegeta probably irritated Trunks enough to SSJ him on purpose), but Pan (if GT is to be taken in consideration) doesn't seem to transform into one, even when absurdly enraged. Perhaps, their trigger is an emotion that transforms women into monsters, like rage does with men. [[Woman Scorned|Scorn]], [[Yandere (disambiguation)|deception]], and [[Stepford Smiler|absolute despair]] are good options to take in consideration.

Assuming that his actual parents are dead, and King Cold is his subordinate (very nearly canon) and parental figure ("king" being a given name like King Vegeta is guessed to have on the [[Dragon Ball/Headscratchers/Headscratchers/DragonballGeneral|JustBugsMe]] page). [[Batman Can Breathe in Space|He can breathe in space]], he goes from a less bulky physique than most (but not all) beings of similar power, getting [[Batman: The Animated Series|more]] and [[Superman: The Animated Series|more]] bulky before [[Bishounen Line|dropping into]] a [[The Dark Knight|physique]] not extremely dissimilar from his original form but with a [[Sculpted Physique]] (literal to the trope for Frieza, literal to the title for Batman). His [[Superman|rival]] is a humanlike space alien who got sent to earth before its home planet was destroyed, became more powerful than any of his own species, met many others despite being [[Last of His Kind]], and [[Dragon Ball/Headscratchers/Headscratchers/DragonballGeneral|notably]] indulged in [[Super Dickery]]. His (back to Frieza/Batman) fighting style includes [[Batman Gambit|manipulating his opponents and allies based on how he thinks they think]], and while for most of Frieza's run he doesn't rely on tools, he does use his [[Up to Eleven|spaceships]] and [[Utility Belt|chair]] in his first form and eventually a mechanical contrivance to fight despite being incapacitated and very nearly killed by a much stronger opponent. The two most significant differences between Frieza and Batman are that Frieza merely ended up weak [[The Worf Effect|compared to the other fighters]], and Batman usually puts his skills on the side of justice instead of the side of making himself more money.

* In support of this is the fact that while Goku in DB was a legitimate [[Kid Hero]] who saved the world many times over, adult Goku in DBZ was actually not much of a big hero (and even in some ways a subversion of the hero concept). Consider: he didn't save the world from Raditz alone (enter Piccolo), he didn't save the world from Vegeta and Nappa alone (enter Vegeta's own [[Bad Boss|Bad Bossness]]ness, Gohan, Krillin, and Yajirobe), he didn't save Namek from Freeza (no one did), he actually endangered Earth by provoking Freeza, and he didn't protect Earth from Freeza afterwards (Mirai Trunks did), he didn't save the world from the Androids (turned out it didn't need to be done, or maybe ''Krillin'' did by showing enough compassion to No.18 to prevent them from going evil), he didn't save the world from Cell (unless guiding Gohan to it counts), he had a chance to save the world from Fat Buu and didn't do it (Mr. Satan did by befriending Buu), his plan to save the world from Super Buu by teaching fusion to Goten and Trunks failed miserably (failed to take into account that the kids weren't emotionally mature enough to pull it off), and his contribution to stopping Kid Buu was as part of a team effort (along with Mr. Satan, Vegeta, and ''the entire population of the earth'').

== [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|Humans are (on average) the worst, most violent species in existance, not Saiyans.]] ==

There's only been one saiyan recorded in the last 3000 years that wasn't in close contact with humans for years before his transformation, and that's Broly, who had a [[Slave Crown]] and a parent who made the normal Saiyan [[Training Fromfrom Hell]] look like [[Bowdlerization|Training From HFIL]]. Goku was raised by humans, and even needed his best friend being killed in cold blood before his eyes to snap and go Super Saiyan rage in his mid-twenties. The [[Authority Equals Asskicking|incredibly powerful Prince]] Vegeta was raised by the punk kid who enslaved and later destroyed his entire planet (and I ''mean'' "his", being Prince of All Saiyans), then got surpassed by some punk serf-class guy who lived most of his life on a backwards planet with almost nobody above [[Power Levels|level 5]], and spent a few years using mystical and technological training weights to push his rage at, probably, Goku being more powerful. This was when he was at ''least'' over thirty (unless I drastically overestimated his age), but he had exposure to humans for a much shorter time than Goku. Gohan, a half-human and raised (mostly) by humans, has emotion-based power boost, turned Super Saiyan when he was eleven and [[Unstoppable Rage|Super Saiyan 2]] when he was 12. Trunks and Goten were SS-capable by the age of ten, and while Goten had (almost definitely, I don't remember the timeline) been conceived after Goku was SS-capable, Trunks required [[Training Fromfrom Hell]] anyway- Goten just needed a human family. That included [[Tsundere|Chichi]] (as did Gohan, until he was five).<br />What have the Saiyans not had that the DBZ Saiyans and Half-Saiyans had in droves? Human associates. Huan associates that taught them (and other alien characters) to repress emotion until it bursts out of their ears like steam, have violent outbursts at any expression of their species' traditional pastimes (and then switch completely to ''encourage'' this in a younger sibling), let illogical sequences of thought and action slide as long as they sound okay, [[Moral Event Horizon|shoot dogs for fun and]] [[Berserk Button|lack of profit]], and (though this is usually the tipping point after years of buildup of the [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|Human Bastardry]]) [[World of Cardboard Speech|watch their weak human friends die like flies]]. Saiyans just kill things for food, release of aggression, money and at least sometimes honor, which humans do all the time ''plus'' those other things. The only beings in the series that are worse than the average human mercenary (on a wider scale) are the [[Card-Carrying Villain|Card Carrying Villains]] that originate from Earth or [[Always ChaoticExclusively Evil|other dimensions]] anyway.<br />Therefore, [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|DBZ humans are the most evil,]] [[Straw Vulcan|loony]] [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|species in existence]] (at least on average, since some humans are only evil ''or'' loony), and ''bring out the worst'' in even ''Saiyans''.

* Saiyans are [[Big Eater|Big Eaters]]s while Namekians don't need to eat

She has to know that any of them can wipe the floor with her. Yes, go Big Head Yell, throw objects, fume and rage--coolrage—cool. They obey her because they love her; They fear her temper because of that love, it makes them upset to see her upset. She has them by the heartstrings, but in no other way. Her way of handling or mishandling them goes back to the final tournament of the original DB. She shows up, wants to surprise the boy she loves, figures to give him a good fight at worst, which is fair. Goku was always strong, but he wasn't making super-geometric leaps when they were kids. But she shows up, and not only does he not recognize her, he brushes aside her combat challenge, one she has prepared for likely for years, under the tutelage of a great fighter, her own father. From the start she realizes even the hint of physical control of any sort is out for her men, and must therefore keep herself tsundere to handle it all.