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** Holding hands or something so they count as one person? All of them kept a finger on the Seal?

** Strictly speaking, as far as the story goes your party members other than the player character don't even exist. It's best to think of the plot as the story of you, the Celestrian who's as strong as four people.

**** Okay, so how about the Celestian who has magic dissociative identity disorder and his other three identities are solid? Or something?

** For that matter, [[Insurmountable Waist-Height Fence|the barrier is 2d and does nothing to prevent someone from just climbing the nearby ledge]]

** Shut up, its [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|heartwarming]]. >:O

* Now how in the heck do your partners travel with you when you're on the Starflight express?

** They apparently catch up to you after you land... "Your friends come into view". Maybe they just ride in the caboose, though. [[Peter Pan|Or Stella can do the whole pixie dust thing]].

** Maybe the magic system lets them warp to you with the teleport spell as long as you're technically still all in the same party?

** Umm, maybe the same trick that allows you to summon multiplayer party members.

** My thought in a separate paragraph..Maybe part of the Hero's wish with the Fygg was that his/her three chosen companions would gain temporary Celestrian Powers as well.

* When you get put in the Gortress, why don't they take any of your equipment away? I know it's a game, but still...

** That bugged me as well. I was running around the entire place in Dragon Warrior armor and a huge sword strapped to my back.

** They have a barrier that, as far as they know, cannot be pierced by physical or magical force. There's literally no point in rebelling without a way past that barrier, so they don't bother disarming prisoners- the most a rebellion could possibly do, as far as they know, is get rid of the people bringing in the food. The only reason you can bypass the barrier is because they don't realize that they're fighting the war a second time, and that as a result there's a seal from the first time not accounted for- if they knew that there ''was'' a seal not in their possession, they would have searched you.

** {{spoiler|[[Fridge Brilliance|If the gratitude of all the mortals you've helped can create a Fygg, maybe it was created from the gratitude of Corvus and Serena towards the hero?]] That would explain it falling from the sky in the ending.}}

* It's called the Gittish ''Empire'', and yet Godwyn's title is "King". Uhhh....?

** [[Truth in Television]]. The British Empire had Queen Victoria, right?

* Why does falling from the Sanctuary make Celestrians visible to mortals? It happens to both Protagonist and Corvus. And what happened to Protagonist's wings and halo? Corvus fell and got visible, and kept his.

** There were feathers flying everywhere during Protagonist's descent -- that was probably more than [[Perpetual Molt]], because they could have easily been damaged by one of those energy blasts. As for the visibility question... they normally use a portal to enter the Protectorate, right? Maybe that's part of what actually renders them invisible to most mortals. Falling =/= passing through the portal, so if the portal confers any extra benefits, they wouldn't get those...

** Actually, if you take a look, Corvus is missing his Halo- and one of the people you first talk to in the Observatory mentions that the Halo is where all of your power from the Almighty is stored.

* Can anyone tell me what was up with Batsureg's naming theme? In a game filled to the brim with [[Incredibly Lame Pun|Incredibly Lame Puns]], all that had to mean something, but it just looked like foreign-ish gibberish to me.

** Might have been the point, seeing as the construction of sentences in Batsureg seems a bit odd and stilted. Maybe the joke is that there is no joke?

* [[Lazy Backup|What was the rest of your party doing]] during the first fight with Corvus? That plot point just falls apart when you consider that 75% of your party isn't being held back by an inherent disability. Corvus hadn't regenerated his Halo either, so it's probably not that they couldn't see him.

**** ....Where the ''hell'' did you get the idea that every party member besides the player canonically comes from the Raportal?!

** Maybe they were distracted by seeing what ''you'' were going through? Or intimidated? Or [[Genre Savvy]] enough to recognize a [[Hopeless Boss Fight]] when they see it?

** Maybe when he flared black everyone got blown away except you because you're a Celestrian? Or he whacked the other guys away when you undid the chains?

** No. No you are not.

** The Metal Slime gear is noted for being as hard as, well, Metal Slimes. How would you move in stiff solid pants?

* As a first-time Dragon Quest player, I have to admit that the Divination spell bugs me a little. It seems... well, outdated. I can't really think of a good reason ''not'' to put "exp to next level" on the rest of your character info screen. Also, what bugs me is when I went to a message board and found a topic with a similar complaint. Other posters then jumped down the guy's throat, and probably the best response I saw was that "Dragon Quest likes to be old-school." Okay, that's a decent response, but the rest of the game seems fairly fresh and modern to me, with the monsters, legacy bosses/characters, and equipment from previous games being all that really connects them. It's certainly more advanced than the older ones, why does this one thing have to stay the same? Also, I read a response that other games were doing the same thing- I don't know of many modern games like that, but that still doesn't automatically justify it. The worst response I saw was someone saying that, if you take out Divination, you might as well take out churches, have statuses healed after every battle, have your party healed after every battle, take out armor and weapons, take out the world map and basically have a menu between locations to teleport you everywhere, and making it real-time instead of turn-based. Look, I've heard of [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope]] arguments before, but seriously... ''what?'' Or am I just now finding out that the Dragon Quest fanbase is as rude and pissy as the Pokemon and Doctor Who fandoms that I'm most accustomed to?

** Unfortunately, [[Grandfather Clause]] will do that to a fanbase. Always knowing "exp to next level" was considered an unnecessary form of cheating when [[DQ 1]] was released, and Enix has stuck to tradition ever since. Combined with the [[Ruined FOREVER]] and [[Unpleasable Fanbase]] issues and yes, you have a pissy fanbase who claims [[Nostalgia Filter|"it's oldskool so it's awesome!"]]

* The fight with Aquila is a hopless boss fight because celestialians can't attack their superiors. Except he's ''not'', the start of the game has you promoted to ''his exact rank'' (which he conceded, so the ''inverse'' should be true).

** Aquila is still older and was a Guardian longer than the player character, so maybe that's what they meant.

* Why does a female character need a one of a kind magic trinket to wear a pant-suit?

** Same reason a male character needs a one of a kind magic trinket to don a skirt?

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