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{{quote|'''Volus:''' Shepherd! Shepherd! A moment of your time!
'''Shepard:''' Can it wait? I'm trying to ensure the survival of '''every sentient being.'''
'''Volus:''' I heard about that. And I think it's really cool. Anyway. I was thinking you could go and get me some artifacts.|''[[Penny Arcade (Webcomic)|Penny Arcade]]''}}
 
 
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"Go beat up this guy that's been hassling me."
 
"Don't you know who I am? '''Dude, Where's myMy respectRespect?'''" Of course, you've [[But Thou Must!|got no choice]] but to debase yourself and comply with this humiliating request, even though you've probably gone [[From Nobody to Nightmare]] and by rights [[Combat Pragmatist|you should just]] [[Kick the Son of a Bitch|kill them]] and take what you need. Is a little empathy [[Did You Think I Can't Feel?|so hard to muster?]]
 
An [[Ideal Hero]] (or [[Superman|blue boyscout]]) will fetch cats from trees all day long, but then again they're probably either a [[Slave to PR]] or just plain have nothing better to do between beating the tar out of villains. Expect villains, rivals, and some civilians to act like [[Ungrateful Bastard]]s in part because of this. The [[Glory Seeker]] ''hates'' this.
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Please restrict [[Real Life]] examples to people who have been [[Vindicated by History]] already.
 
Compare [[No Fame, No Wealth, No Service]], and [[Hero with Bad Publicity]]. Contrast [[Famed in Story]], [[100% Heroism Rating]], and [[The Player Is the Most Important Resource]].
 
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** Asuna is a particularly annoying example, downplaying his accomplishments constantly while giving her classmates credit for lesser achievements. (Even acting at multiple points as if she were a stronger combatant, despite her power coming from him in the first place)
** It seems he's finally gotten the respect he deserves (from the nations of [[Magical Land|Magicus Mundus]], at least) after he {{spoiler|stopped Fate from erasing everyone}}. And although a lot of his students still call him Negi-bozu, it seems to have become a friendly nickname rather than a deliberate show of disrespect.
* ''[[One Piece]]''
** The Straw Hat Pirates in ''[[One Piece]]'' fall to this quite a bit. Of course, it's granted since they ARE pirates, and most of the time the people don't even know it was them in the first place, and if they do it's usually because of their wanted posters.
** Subverted when {{spoiler|they get to Fishman Island and the Fishman Princes are looking for them, but not to arrest them, to deliver a message from their mutual friend Jinbe and invite them back to the Royal Castle.}}
** Of course, even when the Marines take most of the crew seriously, poor Chopper is looked upon by them as a pet, his bounty never rising about a measly 10 Berries, even though he could likely be considered the ''most dangerous'' member.
** In the Punk Hazard Arc, Chopper gives the credit to his group's escape to Usopp when it was the G-5 medics with him were literally carrying him and a freakishly large incapacitated child while running like hell away from deadly gas in a collapsing building.
** During the Wano County Arc, after Luffy delivers a ''devastaing'' blow to Kaido, the villain's life starts flashing before his eyes as he remembers all the powerful individuals he has fought in his career - Gol D. Roger, Whitebeard, Rocks, Odin, Shanks, and Luffy himself... But ''not'' Big Mom, even though she is his partner (more or less) for this arc. For some reason, it seemed she was beneath notice to him.
* Joey Wheeler from ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh (anime)|Yu-Gi-Oh]]'' has had several amazing victories over cheaters, put up a tremendous fight against the duelists he lost against, and helped save the world several times. Yet, everyone treats him like a joke or has no idea who he is.
** Something similar happens at the end of the Whole Cake Island Arc, where Big News Morgan (acting as the [[Narrator]]) gives a list of the pirates considered the Worst Generation (who are considered "the World Government's Most Wanted", more or less): Luffy, Trafalger Law, Eustice Kid, Blackbeard, Bonney, Capone Bege, Hawkins, Apoo, Killer, Urouge, and X Drake, but for some reason, he forgets about Zoro. Whether this was a mistake on Morgan's part or that of the writers is hard to say.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh (anime)|Yu-Gi-Oh]]''
** Joey Wheeler from ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh (anime)|Yu-Gi-Oh]]'' has had several amazing victories over cheaters, put up a tremendous fight against the duelists he lost against, and helped save the world several times. Yet, everyone treats him like a joke or has no idea who he is.
*** He does get ''a little'' respect, just not much that he knows about, with Pegasus himself in ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]'' saying in a flashback scene that he considered Joey the third-best duelist he had encountered. Pegasus invented the game, so a guy can't help but trust his opinion here.
** Kuriboh. Seriously. From Kaiba onwards, it's hard to find a rival, antagonist, or villain who is willing to describe the little guy with an adjective better than "worthless", despite the fact that, time and time again, it and its many variations have protected its owners from monsters with godlike powers, saving them and the world as a whole from certain doom each time. The worst part about this is, some of these folks use monsters that are, if you compare the numbers, even weaker than a Kuriboh, showing incredible hypocrisy in their words.
** ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! SEVENS]]'' has two examples:
*** This is Mimi's motivation for falling in with the Goha Corporation. Being a lot [[Older Than She Looks]], people tend to think she is a child (she's actually 37 years old, and even has a 10-year-old son) and treated her as such, so joining the [[Mega Corp]] that pretty much rules the city was her way of becoming important enough for everyone to notice. Unfortunately, most of her assignments involve taking advantage of her yourthful looks to act as [[The Mole]] towards the protagonist and his friends.
*** Tyler is the drummer for Roa and Romin’s band, and while Tombs (the Bassist) also feels neglect from the fans and the press, [[Nobody Loves the Bassist|Tyler is far more upset about it]], yearning nothing less that being the star. Plus, in the arc where the band first appears, he’s upset that he doesn’t get to duel. “That’s unfair!” he rants. (Unfortunately, it was a two-out-of-three contest so someone had to sit it out, and it seems he got the short straw.) This not only causes him to quit the team and start working for [[Evil Genius| Nail]], he [[Elvis Impersonator| wears an Elvis costume]] in order to upstage Roa.
* In the first season of ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'', this is somewhat a [[Running Gag]] for the main character Kotetetsu T. Kaburagi, aka Wild Tiger. Despite being a veteran Hero whose [[The Cape (trope)|only wish is to save people]], he tends to get little to no respect from the citizens of Steinberg or his fellow Heroes for being a [[Destructive Savior]] and is very low on the Hero food chain. Whenever he does do something impressive, most people tend to credit his partner, [[Always Someone Better|Barnaby Brooks Jr]]. [[Hanging a Lampshade|Lampshaded]] at one point when Barnaby is receiving all of the praise for killing {{spoiler|Jake Martinez}}, despite the fact that it was Kotetsu who {{spoiler|figured out that Jake had the second ability of mind reading and [[Batman Gambit|tricked both Barnaby and Jake with a flash bomb, which caught Jake off-guard and gave Barnaby the opening to defeat him]] and then it was Kotetsu who caught Jake during his attempted escape which led to Jake's accidental death}}:
{{quote|'''Barnaby''': Don't tell me you actually want some praise, too!}}
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** Enough respect to make him an honorary member of [[Fantastic Four (Comic Book)|the Richards family]] and put him on two teams of [[The Avengers (Comic Book)|The Avengers]]!
* The [[The DCU]] reboot of ''[[Aquaman]]'' turns him into this. Every person he meets has apparently watched the ''[[Superfriends]]'' and taken it for a documentary, and his abilities are constantly and openly doubted and he's asked insulting questions about mockable aspects of the character that, in the comics universe, have now never been the case.
* Dear lord, [[The Jailer| the Master Jailer]]. Carl Draper starts out as a security expert and engineer, who spends years as a second-rate villain obsessed with capturing Superman simply to prove he could. Finally he tries to go straight, and designs and builds [[The Alcatraz| the Mount Olympus Correctional Facility]], a prison that proves able to hold such villains as Metallo, Terra-Man, Atomic Skull and the Parasite. During the opening, as he's being interviewed by Lana Lang, Superman shows up, praises Draper for his work, and then adds a few adjustments, covering the building with a plastic bubble, placing it on an anti-gravity platform, and moved it 20,000 feet into the sky, making the place more secure than ever. Then, get this, Superman himself suggests calling it "Draper Island", until Lana butts in and suggests "Superman Island". The second name sticks. Who can blame Draper for [[Heel Face Door Slam| going nuts, going back to his villainous alter-ego]], and vowing to imprison both Superman ''and'' Lana in the place?
 
 
== Fairy Tales ==
* In ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20171112142905/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/jacobs/english/fishring.html The Fish and the Ring]'', ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20130326131857/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/russian/russianwondertales/vasiliiunlucky.html Vasilii the Unlucky]'', [[The Brothers Grimm (creator)|Grimms']] ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20131217180139/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/29devilgoldhairs.html The Devil With the Three Golden Hairs]'', ''[http://www.mythfolklore.net/andrewlang/260.htm The King Who Would Be Stronger Than Fate]'', and many other fairy tales, a man who discovers finds his child [[Self Fulfilling Prophecies|doomed]] to marry a poor child tries to kill them with many tasks, before and after the wedding; in the end, he fails.
* In ''[http://www.mythfolklore.net/andrewlang/065.htm Jesper Who Herded the Hares]'' the king invented more tasks for Jesper to avoid fulfilling his promise to marry him to his daughter, stopping only when Jesper has some dirt on him.
* In ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20130527143315/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/asbjornsenmoe/dapplegrim.html Dapplegrim]'', the king orders the hero to perform many tasks because his fellow servants [[Malicious Slander|falsely claimed he said he could do them]], and then in an attempt to keep him from marrying the princess; in the end, he gives in.
* In [[The Brothers Grimm (creator)|Grimms']] ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20140504020136/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/126ferdinandfaithful.html Ferdinand the Faithful]'', after being slandered, Ferdinand must get a bride for the king and then all the things she demands before she will marry him. However, in the end, the bride tricks the king into letting her kill him, and then marries Ferdinand.
* In ''[http://www.mythfolklore.net/andrewlang/038.htm The Grateful Beasts]'', the king orders Ferko to perform three tasks at the incitement of his brothers; his own daughter the princess argues with him until he imprisons her in a tower. However, the last task is to summon all the wolves in the kingdom, [[Beware the Nice Ones|the wolves then proceed to kill all the court]], and Ferko frees the princess, marries her, and becomes king.
* In [httphttps://wwwweb.archive.org/web/20140401220126/http://surlalunefairytales.com/jackbeanstalk/stories/esbenwitch.html Esben and the Witch], whenever Esben succeeds in a task, his enemy at court incites the king to give him another, and the king is only too willing to listen.
 
== Fan Works ==
* [https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8130614/1/Yu-Gi-Oh-The-Thousand-Year-Door-Redux Yu-Gi-Oh! The Thousand Year Door Redux] is an incredibly rare case where {{spoiler| this is an [[Invoked Trope]]. At the end of the fic, the protagonists are indeed regarded as heroes and saviors to the citizens of Arcadia, but they ask that the news of their heroics be kept on its shores, in effect, forfeiting any fame or glory, even going so far as to give the Shadow Spawn Cortez's horde. They realize [[You Wouldn't Believe Me If I Told You|no-one back home would likely believe them]], and might think they were crazy.}}
 
== Film ==
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* ''[[Criminal Minds]]'' has a combination of this and [[The Greatest Story Never Told]] as the motivation of the UnSub in {{spoiler|"Painless"}}. Held hostage by a mad gunman, he was the only one who looked him in the eye and survived... but got knocked out by an explosion. When he woke up, he [[Ungrateful Bastard|discovered another one of the others had stolen their story]] and found fame. This, combined with the formation of a clique of media-darling survivors, fuels his transformation [[From Nobody to Nightmare]].
* The original ''[[Doctor Who]]'' series has this to the point of nausea. No matter how many times the Doctor would save planets, galaxies, and even the very fabric of reality, no-one thought of him as anything other than a meddling madman, if they had even heard of him at all. Even UNIT, who have extensive knowledge of the dozens of times the Doctor has pulled their butts form the metaphorical fire, treat him like a walking hazard ([[Walking Disaster Area|which he is]], but still), while his fellow Time Lords consider him to be just as dangerous as renegades like [[Evil Counterpart|the Master]]. Indeed, one of the major ways the new series departs from the original is going in the precise ''opposite'' direction, with the Doctor regarded throughout time and space as a [[Shrouded in Myth]] [[Person of Mass Destruction]] who can make a sapient, carnivorous swarm retreat simply by ''telling it who he is''.
* No matter how many times [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer|Buffy]] saved Sunnydale High from not just vampires, but bug people, evil robots, invisible people, fish monsters, nightmares come alive, ghosts, reanimated corpses, werewolves, and ancient evil abominations, most of the school populace treated her as a [[Cool Loser]] at best. However, this was subverted toward the end of the third season at the prom, where the entire graduating class gave their thanks to Buffy for saving them multiples times, granting her (through write-in ballots) the award of Class Protector, with a fancy parasol for a trophy. And this was right after saving them from some hellhounds, too.
* [[Eureka]]'s Sheriff Carter has to solve dozens of life-threatening, town-threatening, and/or ''world''-threatening scenarios before people start taking him seriously.
* [[Spider-Man]]'s lack of respect even extends to the lighthearted shorts on ''[[The Electric Company]]''. On one of them, he's just trying to take the day off at the Mets game when lameass villain The Wall crashes the game and attacks a player, and ''then'' attacks the umpire who tries to kick him out. Spidey manages to intervene and web the villain, only for the same umpire to order him to leave and take the Wall with him, which Spidey meekly does. ("Lucky I didn't slap him with a $50 fine, I can be pretty stupid when I want to be!") Of course, in Spidey's defense, who ''wouldn't'' be intimidated by an angry [[Morgan Freeman]]?
 
 
== Mythology ==
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* Inverted in ''[[Brutal Legend]]'', where - as you are a ''roadie'' - you're ''supposed'' to stay the hell out of the spotlight. Not that it stops your buddies from appreciating what you do.
* Lampshaded in ''[[Jak and Daxter|Jak II]]'' when Daxter asks Torn why they get all the crummy missions:
{{quote|'''Torn''': Because '''[[ThisPunctuated! IsFor! SpartaEmphasis!|I. Don't. Like. You!]]'''}}
* In the ''[[Overlord]]'' games, especially the 2nd one, most people don't show you the respect an [[Evil Overlord]] deserves. In the first game you can try to earn their respect or slaughter them. In the second game you don't even pretend to be nice; you can either brainwash them or again slaughter them.
* In the Eye of the North expansion to ''[[Guild Wars]]'', 'faction' mechanics toyed with in previous installments reach the point where some items are only possible to acquire through earning a reputation-based title with that faction, with characters lacking that title being rudely informed that the items in question aren't available to just anyone. Nevermind that for three of these factions, it is perfectly possible to have single-handedly rescued the organisation from their greatest enemies or to have destroyed the entity that serves as their greatest nemesis without having achieved sufficient reputation to "earn" these services.
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* ''[[Tales of the Questor]]'': [http://www.rhjunior.com/totq/ WHAT'VE I GOTTA TO DO TO GET SOME RESPECT AROUND HERE!]
* ''[[Impure Blood]]'': [https://web.archive.org/web/20130609034017/http://www.impurebloodwebcomic.com/Pages/Issue4PAGES/ib080.html It's their duty to arrest him for his blood after he fought their battle for them.]
* [[Dominic Deegan]] has done a number of quite impressive things including—most notably—saving the universe as the Champion of Balance. He is a ''really good'' seer. But he still gets [https://web.archive.org/web/20110818151734/http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2011-06-03 this] when he tries to give warnings.
{{quote|'''Administrator:''' Your friend with an arrest record, no job, and a history of breaking down in front of students.
'''Szark:''' That happened '''once'''. }}