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== "Epic" Mickey should have been better named. ==
* Couldn't they think of a better name then "Epic Mickey"?
** It's [[Exactly What It Says Onon the Tin|Mickey on an epic adventure]]. What more do you want?
*** A non-corny way to say so.
** Hell, it beats the working title for the game: ''Super Secret Warren Spector Game Project for Disney''.
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** Finally, Hook is not naturally a Beetleworx. He was affected by the machine on Skull Island more than the other pirates, to the point where he was completely subsumed. He's an early, unused version. Just like Smee. And if it's okay for Smee to be an unused design, why is it so terrible for old versions of Pete to be there? They're just old personality types that have fallen out of use in favour of his current portrayal.
== [[Kingdom Hearts]] is NOT [[Epic Mickey]] ==
* People who complain that this game is "too much like [[Kingdom Hearts]]" or that that it's pretty much just a [[Cowboy Bebop Atat His Computer|Kingdom Hearts ripoff]]. [[Flat What]]. Have you even looked at any of the trailers, gameplay, storylines, or ''anything about the game at all''? Yes, it has Mickey Mouse, but it's Retro Mickey and Retro Disney, so how is it ''anything'' like [[Kingdom Hearts]]? Also, '''STOP COMPARING THE TWO GAMES TOGETHER'''. Besides being "Disney", they have ''nothing in common''.
** Kingdom Hearts stopped being a Disney game series years ago anyway.
*** Although debatable Disney aside, the two games are still completely different with their own different play styles and stories that it's annoying as hell to see it get lambasted for being a "KH Ripoff".
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* If [[Oswald the Lucky Rabbit|Oswald]] <s>hates</s> [[The Resenter|resents]] [[Mickey Mouse|Mickey]], why does he have most of these 2D levels throughout the Wasteland based on [[Mickey Mouse|Mickey's]] cartoons?
* [[Oswald the Lucky Rabbit|Oswald]] doesn't hate [[Mickey Mouse|Mickey]] as much as he is envious of him. He wants [[Mickey Mouse|Mickey's]] life, and everything in it. He wants all the friends, fame, AND all of his settings.
* As bad as the comparison to this with Kingdom Hearts is, why are some people comparing this game to [[Super Mario Sunshine (Video Game)|Super Mario Sunshine]]? There's liquid-spraying, yes, but that's paint and thinner, not water, and this isn't about clearing your name, you can go down the evil path for all I care.
** Super Mario Sunshine is about washing paint away. Epic Mickey is about spraying paint (and/or thinner) all over everything. This game would only be comparable to Super Mario Sunshine if that game had a mode that let you play as ''Shadow Mario''. Which it doesn't.
* And for even more [[Cowboy Bebop Atat His Computer]] research, people are confusing the "Shadow Blot" (they renamed the Phantom Blot during development for some reason) for [[The Nightmare Before Christmas|Oogie Boogie]]. Um... how many people are failing to take ten seconds of internet research for the characters, and to realize that Touchstone is NOT working on the game?
** Touchstone is a part of Disney. It's used for non-kid-friendly stuff that the main Disney label would look rather... out-of-place on.
* The removal of the Alice in Wonderland themed section of the Wasteland because of the Tim Burton film. Just... that.
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*** Actually, it seemed to have worked for Clarabelle. She regularly appears in [[Mickey Mouse Clubhouse]].
**** Oh great, now Horace is stuck in the Wasteland without his girlfriend. That's extra depressing.
** Maybe Epic Mickey simply takes place ''before'' [[House of Mouse]]? That might even be one reason why the game only references Disney movies up to [[The Jungle Book (Disney film)|The Jungle Book]], while [[House of Mouse]] features characters from later movies as well.
 
== The fact that there is only one ending ==
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== This game will have to ignore its own existence if it wants to have a sequel. ==
* Since this game seems to be pretty popular so far, its own existence would kind of empty the wasteland and give everyone their hearts back. So... unless the game is just going to ignore its own existence, that kind of makes the prospect of a sequel impossible, doesn't it? I know there's not a whole lot they can do about that, but... it bothers me.
** They don't have to re-use the Wasteland as a setting if they don't wish to, or they could de-emphasize it. I'm picturing any sequels being something like a cross between the [[Mario and Luigi (Video Game)|Mario and Luigi]] games, the [[The Adventures of Sam and& Max: Freelance Police (Video Game)|Sam and Max Freelance Police]] games, and a [[Buddy Cop Show]] done with Mickey and Oswald.
*** That would be ''awesome''.
** If there is a sequel to the game, they should ABSOLUTELY ignore it's existence. I'm a fan of meta, but it is too much for the game to exist within the world of the game.
** This shouldn't even be an issue. If you want to think about it from a certain angle, the game does have a fourth wall. They're aware that they are cartoon characters, and there's the concept of fans and the like, but not that they're in a game. It's like we're playing a game that's set in a world that is exactly the same as our own, except for this game doesn't exist in that world.
*** Compare ''[[Bonkers (Animation)|Bonkers]]'', which has both animated characters who are still animated within the show's universe, and animated characters who are supposed to be "real." Or ''[[Kid Radd]]'', featuring characters who know they're from a video game, but don't know that they're ''really'' from a webcomic.
** Is this game selling well? If not, it might not be that big of an issue.
 
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== Do the toons consider the shorts they started in to be acting gigs, or their actual life? ==
This is where [[Leaning Onon the Fourth Wall]] meets [[Mind Screw]]. Whenever a character talks about old shorts they starred in, they make it very clear that they considered themselves ''actors'', and that they are aware that their cartoons are just entertainment for the masses. So if everything that happens in those cartoons is just acting, then why do relationships and actions from them affect how the characters interact in "real life"? Mickey is immediately furious upon seeing Pete for the first time in Mean Street, but why? Everything bad they've done to each other was in a ''cartoon'', and they are perfectly aware of that. Acting is [[Serious Business]], apparently.
** The Disney comics point towards acting in shorts as Mickey's day job while the comics are his actual adventures. And Pete's been a dick off camera and on panel for the longest time.
** Not that this has anything to do with the Disney-verse (except via ''[[Who Framed Roger Rabbit?]])'', but the ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' canon seems to imply that the lines are really, ''really'' blurred for the characters involved. They're thrust into crazy situations by whoever's holding the brush, and their stardom simply depends on how they handle the situations. Animator [[Bob Clampett]] attributed [[Bugs Bunny]]'s success over his foes to the fact that he was [[Genre Savvy]] enough to read the script in advance.
* The Bunny Kids eat splatters. How is ''eating them alive'' any better than melting them with thinner?