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De-block Reyder Dister from the ATT Mirror Wiki

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Summary by Mark D. Gordon

Sorry for disturbing you. I just need a hobby.

Mark D. Gordon (talkcontribs)
Summary by Mark D. Gordon

Closed thema.

Mark D. Gordon (talkcontribs)

I want now to talk about the entries of the other four candidates and non-candidates of Complete Monster in the:

After War Gundam X/YMMV.

At first, we don't define a character, because of his/her fate. And the Frost Brothers are perhaps punished even worse. (Life is a heavier punishment by Gundam standards similar to One Piece, but is not used that often.)

TV Tropes Complete Monster Cleanup After War Gundam X Seidel Rasso Fixx Bloodman

- Does Bloodman even qualify? On TV Tropes' cleanup he's said to be one of the rare more humane antagonists (despite his name and appearance of an ugly old man). And while he has bad crimes to his name, he completely pales when compared to the other four.

- I'd say Rasso should stay. He's one of the most despicable characters (even perhaps THE most despicable character) in this series.

- The Frost Brothers being mere Smug Snakes is not correct. They murdered their superiors and wanted to kill all Newtypes and also murdered the two guys above. Their disqualifying quality is, that they care about each other. They have a Freudian Excuse, but I'm not sure, if it mitigates their crimes somewhat.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Bloodman, possibly. After he heard D.O.M.E out, he was actually willing to reconsider his warlike ways.

Siedel Rasso, he was still unwilling to shake his own delusions even after hearing D.O.M.E out.

The Frost Brothers, I'd argue they got redeemed in the same sense Victory Gundam's Katejina Loos did: They were in a worse position than they started out in and had to live with that, so I'd argue they ultimately don't qualify, since while they did some horrible things, they did pay for those actions and got handed a punishment they are in no position to do anything about, with Shagia being crippled in the ending and Olba having to take full-time care of him, and it's rather strongly implied they finally decided to let their hatred drop in the ending.

From My Sandbox - Trope Pantheon

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Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

So, here's the template for the Trope Pantheon: User:Jade Shauni/sandbox I know it must go through some reworks and polishing before it gets posted, the reason why I didn't put it up yet in the Template box, it's because once the others see that TP is back, they'll go wild, because they didn't know about the rules that you see there. Plus, how do I put it up without the run wild part happening? I want to put the rules in the template, without ruining the posting. (Ignore the Cheagal Writing, that's a trope that needs working, so it won't get deleted by lack of examples)).

I think some of the rules should be expanded upon, it looks like the Other Trope Wiki got serious with who gets into the TP after things became too insane for them to handle, so, they posted some rules which minimize any future damage (I see this as a bit too late, but it puts less future work when new tropers come in with new gods). If I can't put the rules on the template, they should be in the actual TP page, like how the Other Trope Wiki does it. So, which rules are good for forking: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/TropePantheons

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Cleaned it up some, but it otherwise works.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Okay, so we don't need anything from Tv Tropes' Trope Pantheon rules, we're good to go. Right? So, how do I make a template and where do I post the rules.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Check out existing templates to make sure you don't pick a name we already have for an existing template, then create a new one in Template namespace.

I also recommend using an existing template that already fits your needs as a base, copy the page contents over to your new template, then add the information you need to the modified template.

If possible, you should make this template an infobox similar to the site notices you occasionally see atop the site header.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Oh, I got lost, when I went to search templates, now I'm wondering how do I make a template/docs and can there be two/several gods for one trope or should the TP be about one god per trope? Also, should I add in the rules that the gods won't get rotated out, because when I logged out, I just realize that I should add more, before I put the template up.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Two things:

  1. Start a forum topic and solicit some advice from other people, it's clear this idea needs more work.
  2. If you don't know how to make a template, see Help:Templates
Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Thanks, I follow your advice and put it in a forum. I want to do this right, because if we don't seal off the holes, we'll end up like Tv Tropes.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)
GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Works for me.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Any ideas to make it unique, so it won't be too much of a "Trope Pantheon ripoff"?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Not really. As long as we keep the idiotic attempts at fanfiction to a minimum, that alone will make ours better than the one on TVT.

Reply to "From My Sandbox - Trope Pantheon"
Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Hey, I'm trying to reverse engineer some of the pages that I started, including the Trope Workshop:Forgettable Character , and tweaking, fixing, and polishing them. So, how am I doing?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Better, doing better.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Do I get rid of the "Cleanup: Don't copy from TVT" tag or must I leave it there, until the page comes really clean?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Make sure it's completely sterile first.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I wrote it from the ground up now, so that should get most of it, even though it needs a bit of cleaning.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Then when any questionable bits are gone, the message can leave as well.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

Okay, I removed the message. The only thing left is beware of some stupid grammar mistake/misspelling on my part and maybe the examples.

Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I started fixing the other one: Trope Workshop:Adapted Out

I rework it from the ground up, so it's in a similar state: questionable stuff removed, only grammar mistakes, typos, and other personal mistakes remains.

Reply to "So, How Am I Doing Now?"
Reception123 (talkcontribs)
GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Much obliged for the heads up,

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Message on All the Tropes Wiki

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84.151.135.30 (talkcontribs)

You have a message on All the Tropes Wiki regarding the two Reyder Dister accounts.

Reply to "Message on All the Tropes Wiki"
73.93.201.161 (talkcontribs)

I just made an account the other idea and was immediately banned.

Talking it over, this seems to be due to a case of mistaken identity with one particular banned user who keeps making accounts. I'm not the same person and I can prove it.

Anyhow, I mainly want to edit here to some small edits on this site and cleaning.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I'd like to see this proof please.

73.93.201.161 (talkcontribs)

Check the IPs.

Reply to "May I be unbanned"
Reyder Dister (talkcontribs)

Can you make it so I can edit locked pages please?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Where and why?

Reyder Dister (talkcontribs)

Complete Monster/Fairy Tail for one. I tried to add a new image but I wasn't able to. Can you fix that? I also want to copy some of my other CM-related edits from wiki over here.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I just gave you the proper user rights to do so.

Happy editing.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Reyder Dister turned out that be that one ban-evader again, which I suspected but was giving her the benefit of the doubt because she seemed to have learned better about asking about actions to take regarding trope pages or examples before taking them, and was making some good edits and useful contributions. But then she put up a non-example from Claymore again (some unnamed Starter Villain rapist who she put up just because he is a rapist rather than him actually meeting the general trope heinous standard or the series' heinous standard, which he doesn't) and I felt I needed to block her again rather than risk things getting ugly.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

Well, that explains why they wanted to be "Foes" with me.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I see. Make sure to throw them out should they show up again then.

Reply to "Editing locked pages"
Davey2010 (talkcontribs)
GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Glad to hear it.

If you want to do something but aren't sure it will be a problem, please check the guidelines and ask if that still doesn't help from now on.

Reply to "Reply to User talk:Davey2010"
Hela (talkcontribs)

Can you give me autoprotection please?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Done.

Klevin051 (talkcontribs)

Can I have autoprotection as well?

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Uh, Hela turned out to be that one serial ban-evader who's apparently got no life beyond trying to get onto Wikis and dictate how things go, especially in regards to tropes like Complete Monster. This Klevin051 is a brand new user, knew where to find this talk on your page, and is now asking for autoprotection just like Hela did, in addition to demanding a CM example be removed from a page for "not being heinous enough" by their standards. This looks really suspicious to me. Permission to block?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

In the unlikely event Geth doesn't respond, I'll approve a ban.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I see, thanks for the heads up, ban away.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I don't know when it's going to sink in that she's not wanted here or anywhere until she can learn from her mistakes.

I had suspicions about Hela from the start but didn't ban her immediately because I wanted to give her a chance. Even if she was the bad evader, I was willing to let her stay if she'd learned better, and she'd seemed to since she was asking about things before acting, and as a result we got some obsolete CM pages deleted and replaced with new, superior ones. But then she went and deleted Nihilus' entry from the Western Animation CM page without any warning, and when I added it back, she deleted it again this time under the reason that he's not as heinous compared to his boss, Nero. Despite Nihilus actively doing the most heinous crimes on the show, all played seriously, whereas Nero barely has his own standout crimes and is frequently Played For Laughs. The only known person who thinks Nero is both a CM and worse than Nihilus is that ban evader, so that's how she gave herself away and I knew I had to block her before she might start making more unwanted, unneeded edits in order to make a trope or page follow her viewpoint.

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