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User talk:GethN7/Archive 1 - pre LQT talk page archive.

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NDKilla (talkcontribs)

Just wanted to let you know that I've nominated you for a community spot on the CoC commission.

Also the Sysadmin and Steward appointments were posted.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Thank you. I have replied.

Reply to "CoC Comission"
DocColress (talkcontribs)

The user Weedle McHairybug has been given a temporary suspension of editing due to edit warring and pushing characters who were already deemed definite non-examples into the Complete Monster trope, with overcomplicated and not very coherent writeups filled with flimsy justifications for why he felt the characters counted regardless of whether or not they hit off the criteria. (The main offender being Maleficent, who he's been edit warring over and bringing insufficient evidence as to why she should be considered truly heinous above standard villainy, even citing a children's book with an unofficial sequel story to the original movie that doesn't really make her that much more heinous and in fact had her doing something mitigating by agreeing to Aurora's request that she undo the curse she'd put on everyone else so long as Aurora gets to fall under another deep sleep.)

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:287642#15 I've been arguing with him here. I'm familiar with him from Villains Wiki and it'd be an understatement to call him a loony, morally and spiritually bankrupt ignoramus who makes Lady Satsuki look sane. Not that I've said that to him outright, but I was hoping you could settle this for us so that it doesn't go on any further.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Left a response.

If they continue to defy policy, do as you see fit.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

I hope it doesn't have to come to that. Even with the people who bother me most, I try to stay reasonable.

Reply to "On Wikia"
DustinAR (talkcontribs)

Can you delete the Complete Monster page for DreamWorks Animation please? I just moved the characters to the main Western Animation page.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Move them back.

The main page is for unsorted examples.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

DustinAR was Lady Satsuki ban-evading and trying to get her way on this Wiki once again. I blocked her due to both that and how she was making major edits like that before telling others about it or getting any consensus first.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

"Permission"?

That word sets off an alarm in my mind...

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Changed it to "consensus", as I feel that word is more accurate for this.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I see, thanks for throwing them out.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

I usually don't like taking such a drastic measure (and usually will not unless I'm left with no other option), but this particular user is the sole exception due to how much damage she's done or tried to do to this trope in the past, and her general horrible conduct on all Wikis she's been on.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I'm well aware of their record, you did the right thing.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

The ban evader sent a message addressed to me elsewhere.

"You said there I'm not needed or wanted there or on TV Tropes, that just made me all the more determined to keep coming back again and again. I've got stuff to do in the meantime, but I promise you, as long as I have breath in my body, I'll never stop coming back under any circumstances."

"As long as I have breath in my body?" She really has no life outside of trying to impose her will onto Wikis, does she?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

My, how dramatic.

Well, if they want to be that obstinate, so long as breath remains in mine, I plan to ensure their efforts shall end in ignominious failure, and I charge you as my agent to make sure my will in that regard is carried out.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Serious Internet Tough Guy vibes here.

You have no idea how glad it makes me to hear that. Again, I rarely want to treat any visitor or contributor on this Wiki with automatic hostility, but she has proven herself time and time again, on multiple sites, to be troublesome, that she's become an exception to my standard. I really dread the idea of her messing things up here in regards to the Complete Monster trope in particular.

DocColress (talkcontribs)

Thank you. Robekelk seemed to have reservations about how I handled this, but this is a special case rather than the norm.

Reply to "Unnecessary page"
Shroomish (talkcontribs)

Excuse me, how do I get Autoconfirmed?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Just looked over your edits, granted you the autoconfirmed tag.

DustinAR (talkcontribs)

Can I get it too please?

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Done.

Reply to "Autoconfirm"
DocColress (talkcontribs)

No matter how many times I mark them as read, the numbers keep appearing on the icons next to my username. Is this something wrong with the site that has to be fixed?

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

That's been happening for me, too, the last week or so.

Reply to "My alerts and notices"
Dynastia (talkcontribs)

- You admit you have autism. - You spend your life running lowbrow wikis and writing garbage about "lowcows" on your blog (even though you are one). - You are so pathetic you introduce yourself as a wiki admin on your personal blog. - Your only friend is Michael D Suarez (the failed "prankster"). - Please get a life yourself. And now you're siding with the pedos on Kiwi Farms, why does that not surprise me?

Anytime I choose I can vandalise your wiki, its just that its so lame I would rather watch paint dry than click there again.

Robkelk (talkcontribs)

Dynastia, everything you've posted to this wiki has been harassment of Geth.

Enjoy your vacation. I've set your block to one day; Geth can change that if he wants.

LulzKiller (talkcontribs)

Rob... I don't think that is the real Dynastia, Dynastia being a KF member himself wouldn't be talking about the "pedos on Kiwi Farms". Also referring to MDS as the "failed prankster" and talking about his blog. This leads to only one answer.

This is Oliver Smith. I'll ask Dynastia later on KF whether this account is actually his to verify my suspicions.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Yeah, same account as before, but this reads like Oliver copypasta, since this is stuff Oliver has typed before and the real Oliver would likely be a lot more vicious than this.

And Lulzkiller, thanks for looking into this, let me know what you find out plz.

LulzKiller (talkcontribs)

it's 3amish in Australia, so it might be a small while.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I understand, I can wait.

LulzKiller (talkcontribs)

According to talking to him in his DMs, it's actually Dyn. I'm asking for further confirmation, I'll be back in a bit cause I'm at college and going home.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I see. I'd rather he stop doing that sort of thing because it's becoming disruptive now. It was funny at first and I let it slide as a result, but now he's starting to concern other users, and in the interests of keeping the peace here, I'm going to have to ask him to refrain.

LulzKiller (talkcontribs)

Apparently he just copypasted one of Olivers ramblings.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I figured as much. Still, he needs to stop, it's becoming disruptive to other users now.

TBeholder (talkcontribs)

I missed the historical visit of a spawn of Sonichu and FeministFreakency? Dammit. =(

Reply to "Geth:"
Solid Virus (talkcontribs)

It's Virus Bot. I'm making it to patrol edits for vandalism or anything else we don't want. I will start by having it notify sysops for suspicious activity and once it gets reliable we can think about using it as a sysop to issue short bans to users who make bad edits.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I see. Please confer with the other sysops for ideas on hows to best implement this bot, because I'd like their opinions before handing out a bot flag.

Labster (talkcontribs)

It's just... I wonder what you mean by suspicious activity. This seems like a good way to start a Thought Police. It makes me nervous to hand out bans automatically -- it's exactly the kind o thing that could drive users away. I have no problem with you using the API to make recommendations, but it's really worrying to see an account requesting sysop privileges on the day after it was created.

Solid Virus (talkcontribs)

It's going to do stuff like compare the byte count and if it's too low it would be flagged as abuse. LulzKiller already the process of adding rights to the bot. I don't expect to get a sysop bot now and I'd find it unwise if those rights were handed out so easily,

We can discuss algorithms the bot can use. It could look for signatures of known vandalism like certain HTML or copy/paste messages or look to see if a user is deleting or adding a large amount or similar content from pages.

Looney Toons (talkcontribs)

The problem is that low byte count is not by any measure a good metric to determine abuse. I make a lot of changes that can weigh in at +/-20 bytes, just as a matter of tweaking layouts, taking care of spelling errors, correcting redlinks caused by incorrect capitalization, or fixing unescaped "="s embedded in quote templates.

Our most recent vandalizations have almost universally inserted text that looks like comment spam into pages while deleting hundreds or thousands of characters. Others have blanked pages outright. That's the kind of thing we should be looking for. The main problem i can see, though, is how to distinguish legitimate large deletions -- say, splitting up a Trivia page that has items for two or more works into individual pages -- from vandalism. And the opposite, detecting spam pages and distinguishing them from legitimate new pages.

Virus Bot (talkcontribs)

There's more then one approach we can take. I'd look for very large deletions and anything that reduces the size to 0 should automatically be flagged. I don't mean ban the user automatically without other flags corroborating the likelihood of vandalism. We can look at info like what user groups the user is a member of or account age so a confirmed user is more trusted then a new user.

We could look for behavior like a single message being copied across multiple pages in a short amount of time.

This should have been my regular account, not the bot. Not having global bot passwords is a real pain and caused this when I had to log out to generate them on other wikis.

LulzKiller (talkcontribs)

Labster not to interject however solid did say it was suspicious activity alerting first and then if it was good enough, then sysop privileges. Solid wants the bot designation/flag today, and the sysop at a later date if the bot was successful. A bit nitpicky but it's important to clarify.

Labster (talkcontribs)

Interject all you want, friend. Anytime someone brings up sysop on a new account in any context makes my mod senses tingle. That's all. Now if the bot was OSS, that would go a long towards making my fears go away.

Solid Virus (talkcontribs)

I could post the source code for the bot if that's what you're asking. I don't expect a sysop account at any point in the near future.

Reply to "I made a bot account"

Oliver Smith linked to a page that could give you material for Kiwi Farms

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Solid Virus (talkcontribs)

It's here: http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html

I cringed when they mentioned women in tech, so they probably have an agenda.

He posted your birthday so if this is accurate you could be at a serious risk of identify theft if he gets your name.

I wouldn't worry about his hit blog. It's not like a site run by many people he tried to crucify you on so most people will see it as the ravings of a mad man. His style could use a lot of work because it reads as exactly that.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I know all about that.

And I'm not worried about him getting ahold of that information, as I've worked very hard to keep that information under wraps (and all the information he has is all he going to find on my public accounts), and the only places he could get all that information not publicly available would be by breaking laws, so thanks for the warning.

I've also informed law enforcement of his malicious intentions for my personal information, so if he tries anything, there is a record on file about this.

Reply to "Oliver Smith linked to a page that could give you material for Kiwi Farms"
Solid Virus (talkcontribs)

I got around to joining your wiki and I like what you're doing here! I'm a programming and netsec freshman so let me know if you need any help. So I read your blog and I'm sorry you had all that drama from Oliver Smith. It sounds like he's more destructive to himself then you.

I'm getting a username change because the capitalization is wrong when I signed up so you might get some dead links when they change it.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the sympathy. If anything, I pity him for feeling such hate and malice of such petty matters as he is enraged over, and have elected to pray for him.

And I understand regarding the name change. Let me know if you require any help or wish to solicit any advice for improving this place, my doors are always open, and I look forward to your contributions. :)

Solid Virus (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the welcome. :)

So is he pissed that he got banned? I could make a vandal patrol bot that doesn't have to take action, but just lets us know where shit happens. That's crazy.

Reply to "I signed up!"
Jade Shauni (talkcontribs)

I'm new and how do I not commit copyright violation? since I'm trying to do the Captain Britain page.

GethN7 (talkcontribs)

I sent some instructions for this to you on your talk page.

You are new, so we'll be nice about this for now, but please follow the instruction I gave to prevent further mishaps.

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