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** And remember that the majority of property damage that Fairy Tail is blamed for is apparently mostly caused by Natsu.
** And remember that the majority of property damage that Fairy Tail is blamed for is apparently mostly caused by Natsu.
** Another point to consider is that while they do have a reputation they are ''also'' highly principled. You want to be certain the mages who come to help have good, honest intentions and will try their best? Fairy Tail.
** Another point to consider is that while they do have a reputation they are ''also'' highly principled. You want to be certain the mages who come to help have good, honest intentions and will try their best? Fairy Tail.
== When Natsu was attacking the Phantom's [[Base On Wheels|Base On Legs]] why did his motion sickness only kick in when it turned out to be a [[Transforming Mecha]]; how is one any more of a vehicle than the other? More importantly, why did it effect him ''at all'' when both forms were pretty much completely stationary when he was in them? ==
== When Natsu was attacking the Phantom's [[Base on Wheels|Base On Legs]] why did his motion sickness only kick in when it turned out to be a [[Transforming Mecha]]; how is one any more of a vehicle than the other? More importantly, why did it effect him ''at all'' when both forms were pretty much completely stationary when he was in them? ==
* Honestly, I think his motion sickness is as much mental as physical. Remember, it only affects him when it involves vehicles, not all forms of non-walking motion. He gets sick on a train, but once it stops or should he be carried by a friend (like Happy), he is instantly better, without any residual symptoms from his motion sickness.
* Honestly, I think his motion sickness is as much mental as physical. Remember, it only affects him when it involves vehicles, not all forms of non-walking motion. He gets sick on a train, but once it stops or should he be carried by a friend (like Happy), he is instantly better, without any residual symptoms from his motion sickness.
** I remember from one of the first volumes, of Lucy being called a "transportation device". And also, as the end of a chain of traveling in things (It said "Train+Carriage+Lucy=Death Blow" or something of the like).
** I remember from one of the first volumes, of Lucy being called a "transportation device". And also, as the end of a chain of traveling in things (It said "Train+Carriage+Lucy=Death Blow" or something of the like).
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* Wasn't the bargain for being allowed to live was to always automatically come to Lucy's aid? Loki has shown that he doesn't even need to be summoned, and is implied that he has a gut instinct for whenever Lucy's in danger. So why did he send Virgo to Lucy's aid when he had a date? I'm sure he would've gladly canceled it in light of the circumstances...and the fact that it looks like {{spoiler|she's about to be executed...}}
* Wasn't the bargain for being allowed to live was to always automatically come to Lucy's aid? Loki has shown that he doesn't even need to be summoned, and is implied that he has a gut instinct for whenever Lucy's in danger. So why did he send Virgo to Lucy's aid when he had a date? I'm sure he would've gladly canceled it in light of the circumstances...and the fact that it looks like {{spoiler|she's about to be executed...}}
** I think he didn't come because he couldn't. He was probably on a date in Magnolia... so he's stuck in the lacryma with everybody else. Virgo got the message, and since he still hasn't returned, she concluded he was still on his date (which is plausible, what with him being a [[The Casanova|Casanova]] and all).
** I think he didn't come because he couldn't. He was probably on a date in Magnolia... so he's stuck in the lacryma with everybody else. Virgo got the message, and since he still hasn't returned, she concluded he was still on his date (which is plausible, what with him being a [[The Casanova|Casanova]] and all).
== What happened to Elgior/Erogor/[[Spell My Name With an "S"|whatever the heck his name is]]? ==
== What happened to Elgior/Erogor/[[Spell My Name with an "S"|whatever the heck his name is]]? ==
* After Natsu beat him, everyone arrives and gets distracted by Kageyama jacking the Lullabye. Then Elgior (screw it, that's the first spelling I read) was gone without a trace, and is never mentioned again. Where did he go, and what's up with him now? I'd say the author forgot about him, but what with how much he ''doesn't'' forget the little things, I'm guessing Elgior's supposed to be an eventual [[Chekhov's Gunman]]... or something.
* After Natsu beat him, everyone arrives and gets distracted by Kageyama jacking the Lullabye. Then Elgior (screw it, that's the first spelling I read) was gone without a trace, and is never mentioned again. Where did he go, and what's up with him now? I'd say the author forgot about him, but what with how much he ''doesn't'' forget the little things, I'm guessing Elgior's supposed to be an eventual [[Chekhov's Gunman]]... or something.
** Actually, he IS mentioned again. AT the start of the chapter/episode where Erza and Natsu fight Lucy does an epilogue to that arc wherein she mentions that every member of the dark guild got arrested EXCEPT for Erigor, who was never captured. Lucy than [[Foreshadowing|worries about the possibility of him coming back for revenge]].
** Actually, he IS mentioned again. AT the start of the chapter/episode where Erza and Natsu fight Lucy does an epilogue to that arc wherein she mentions that every member of the dark guild got arrested EXCEPT for Erigor, who was never captured. Lucy than [[Foreshadowing|worries about the possibility of him coming back for revenge]].
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** It's gotten to the point that most fans only refer to the characters by their originally scanlated names, not the official ones, because they're so much better.
** It's gotten to the point that most fans only refer to the characters by their originally scanlated names, not the official ones, because they're so much better.
** I would imagine that the anime should vindicate some of these (not that they should really need vindication to begin with), since in the cases of Laxus and Gajeel so far, you can hear the "ja" and "la" sounds when their names are spoken, and the same will probably be true for some future names as well.
** I would imagine that the anime should vindicate some of these (not that they should really need vindication to begin with), since in the cases of Laxus and Gajeel so far, you can hear the "ja" and "la" sounds when their names are spoken, and the same will probably be true for some future names as well.
*** I can shed a little light on the Gazille vs. Gajeel one. Apparently what we might romanize as "z" in our alphabet's characters still makes a "j" sound in Japanese. I remember first being confused on this issue back when I still watched the subbed [[Pokémon (Anime)|Pokémon]] anime, and Denzi's name was pronounced as "Den''j''i" despite the romanized spelling. Some research later, and boom, understanding.
*** I can shed a little light on the Gazille vs. Gajeel one. Apparently what we might romanize as "z" in our alphabet's characters still makes a "j" sound in Japanese. I remember first being confused on this issue back when I still watched the subbed [[Pokémon (anime)|Pokémon]] anime, and Denzi's name was pronounced as "Den''j''i" despite the romanized spelling. Some research later, and boom, understanding.
*** This also applies to pretty much all 'official' translations, but it seems to be partly because of 'professional' pride. If it's the official translation, it's whatever they say it is, and in some cases they change the names entirely, just not as much anymore. Some of it seems to be a little bit of spite though, since you translate the name phoenetically, that is spelling it the way to sounds. The official translators do just this and then decide to throw in a few errant letters or alternative spellings because hey, they are the 'professionals', and can't be seen to be the same as the so called 'amatuers'. While some names are spoken the same, the spellings make it hard for some people who don't know how to pronounce the more exotic forms of a given name. An english example would be taking a phrase like 'Adam Prince of England' and making it unique by changing it to 'Ahdum Prince of Engelun'. Both can be pronounced the same (mostly), just the one is more awkward just to make it more fantasy oriented.
*** This also applies to pretty much all 'official' translations, but it seems to be partly because of 'professional' pride. If it's the official translation, it's whatever they say it is, and in some cases they change the names entirely, just not as much anymore. Some of it seems to be a little bit of spite though, since you translate the name phoenetically, that is spelling it the way to sounds. The official translators do just this and then decide to throw in a few errant letters or alternative spellings because hey, they are the 'professionals', and can't be seen to be the same as the so called 'amatuers'. While some names are spoken the same, the spellings make it hard for some people who don't know how to pronounce the more exotic forms of a given name. An english example would be taking a phrase like 'Adam Prince of England' and making it unique by changing it to 'Ahdum Prince of Engelun'. Both can be pronounced the same (mostly), just the one is more awkward just to make it more fantasy oriented.
== Scanlated names ==
== Scanlated names ==
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* Mashima uses actual name from other languages, many with a deeper meaning connected to the character (including the two mentioned), so it is kinda weird to see people complain about those names.
* Mashima uses actual name from other languages, many with a deeper meaning connected to the character (including the two mentioned), so it is kinda weird to see people complain about those names.
== Does someone relatively important will die at one point? ==
== Does someone relatively important will die at one point? ==
* Yes, it's a Shonen. Still, some of the characters got injured pretty bad and still come back. Makarov could have died two times already. Every little bit of what was once Gerard was destroyed at the end of the Tower of Paradise arc and he still came back. And Erza had made a pretty epic [[Heroic Sacrifice]] before Natsu saved her. Don't get me wrong, I like both Makarov and Gerard, and Erza is my favorite character by far, but if everyone is always saved (except [[Spell My Name With an "S"|Simon/Shimon]]) it will lose it's impact pretty fast.
* Yes, it's a Shonen. Still, some of the characters got injured pretty bad and still come back. Makarov could have died two times already. Every little bit of what was once Gerard was destroyed at the end of the Tower of Paradise arc and he still came back. And Erza had made a pretty epic [[Heroic Sacrifice]] before Natsu saved her. Don't get me wrong, I like both Makarov and Gerard, and Erza is my favorite character by far, but if everyone is always saved (except [[Spell My Name with an "S"|Simon/Shimon]]) it will lose it's impact pretty fast.
== Wendy's Burp Attack! ==
== Wendy's Burp Attack! ==
* Okay, so a Dragon Slayer powers up or heals by 'eating' their element. Wendy's element is 'sky' or 'air'. Except she can't just breathe to power up... she has to 'eat' air. However, swallowing air is what leads to gastrointestinal bloating, leading to... burps and farts. So all ow Wendy's attacks as a Sky Dragon Slayer should be a variation on [[Fartillery]]. And yet we never see her so much as hiccuping, let alone the cruder burps and farts we'd expect.
* Okay, so a Dragon Slayer powers up or heals by 'eating' their element. Wendy's element is 'sky' or 'air'. Except she can't just breathe to power up... she has to 'eat' air. However, swallowing air is what leads to gastrointestinal bloating, leading to... burps and farts. So all ow Wendy's attacks as a Sky Dragon Slayer should be a variation on [[Fartillery]]. And yet we never see her so much as hiccuping, let alone the cruder burps and farts we'd expect.
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== What's Up With the Ten Great Holy/Saint Mages? ==
== What's Up With the Ten Great Holy/Saint Mages? ==
According to the various arc, there is pretty much a "top ten list" of mages - the biggest, strongest, and most skilled. The only ones speciffically named are Gerard (when he was still playing [[The Masquerade]]), Fairy Tail's guildmaster, and Phantom Lord's guildmaster. The last two, whose names I cannot recall, Seem to deserve their titles, both supposedly being nearly invincible when compared to other mages. However, other characters are shown to easily be just as strong if not stronger than at least two of these three.
According to the various arc, there is pretty much a "top ten list" of mages - the biggest, strongest, and most skilled. The only ones speciffically named are Gerard (when he was still playing [[The Masquerade]]), Fairy Tail's guildmaster, and Phantom Lord's guildmaster. The last two, whose names I cannot recall, Seem to deserve their titles, both supposedly being nearly invincible when compared to other mages. However, other characters are shown to easily be just as strong if not stronger than at least two of these three.
* These include: 1)Laxus, who is a freaking strong {{spoiler|artificial dragon slayer}}, is is capable of using the legendary class spell {{spoiler|fairy law}}. 2)Erza, who can withstand a blast from the [[Strong Flesh Weak Steel|building-destroying]] jupiter cannon, defeat the ([[Overshadowed By Awesome|relatively]]) powerful mage {{spoiler|Aria}}, and give the Phantom Lord guy a bit of a challenge; she can also take a lot of punishment and still go toe-to-toe with Gerard, though he pretty much beats her. 3)Ur, who dukes it out with [[Kaiju|Deliora]], though she cannot actually defeat it; Gerard even mentions that she could have gained a "Great Mage" title. 4)Gildartz; oh lord, Gildartz. He can destroy nearly any normal substance - and does so on a regular basis becose of his absent-mindedness - survives a surprize dragon attack, scares the crap out of Natsu even though he {{spoiler|loses an arm, leg, and an unspecified organ}} in that attack, and Natsu thinks of merely pushing Gildartz back a few feet to be a major sign of progress.
* These include: 1)Laxus, who is a freaking strong {{spoiler|artificial dragon slayer}}, is is capable of using the legendary class spell {{spoiler|fairy law}}. 2)Erza, who can withstand a blast from the [[Strong Flesh Weak Steel|building-destroying]] jupiter cannon, defeat the ([[Overshadowed by Awesome|relatively]]) powerful mage {{spoiler|Aria}}, and give the Phantom Lord guy a bit of a challenge; she can also take a lot of punishment and still go toe-to-toe with Gerard, though he pretty much beats her. 3)Ur, who dukes it out with [[Kaiju|Deliora]], though she cannot actually defeat it; Gerard even mentions that she could have gained a "Great Mage" title. 4)Gildartz; oh lord, Gildartz. He can destroy nearly any normal substance - and does so on a regular basis becose of his absent-mindedness - survives a surprize dragon attack, scares the crap out of Natsu even though he {{spoiler|loses an arm, leg, and an unspecified organ}} in that attack, and Natsu thinks of merely pushing Gildartz back a few feet to be a major sign of progress.
* Gereard, however, doesn't seem that strong - his most powerful attack is the Abyss Break spell, which any really skilled mage can use. All of the other guys could easily [[Let's You and Him Fight|defeat Gerard in one-on-one combat]]; but are ''any'' of these guys in the top ten? [[Dude, Where's My Respect?|Nope]]. What the heck is up with that?
* Gereard, however, doesn't seem that strong - his most powerful attack is the Abyss Break spell, which any really skilled mage can use. All of the other guys could easily [[Let's You and Him Fight|defeat Gerard in one-on-one combat]]; but are ''any'' of these guys in the top ten? [[Dude, Where's My Respect?|Nope]]. What the heck is up with that?
** Maybe it's not about strength, but skill? Also, I guess if you have a bad reputation, such as FT's tendency to cause property damage, you probably wouldn't be granted a title. Also, 1) Laxus was probably hiding his true strength, since he was planning to eventually take over Fairy Tail, 2) Erza withstanding the cannon and beating Aria wasn't much of a surprise (Aria seemed like a sneak attack kind of guy). Also, Jose was just playing around with Erza, though he does mentioned Erza would have made a formidable foe, and Gerard is just weird (seriously, his power level's all over the place), 3) Ur ''could'' have gotten the title, but we don't know enough about Ur's strength or skill, 4) Gildartz probably won't get a title seeing that he has a tendency to let his magic run wild, plus property damage.
** Maybe it's not about strength, but skill? Also, I guess if you have a bad reputation, such as FT's tendency to cause property damage, you probably wouldn't be granted a title. Also, 1) Laxus was probably hiding his true strength, since he was planning to eventually take over Fairy Tail, 2) Erza withstanding the cannon and beating Aria wasn't much of a surprise (Aria seemed like a sneak attack kind of guy). Also, Jose was just playing around with Erza, though he does mentioned Erza would have made a formidable foe, and Gerard is just weird (seriously, his power level's all over the place), 3) Ur ''could'' have gotten the title, but we don't know enough about Ur's strength or skill, 4) Gildartz probably won't get a title seeing that he has a tendency to let his magic run wild, plus property damage.
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== Why does no one die? ==
== Why does no one die? ==
* I really don't understand when you have a bunch of super powered mages around, one who can make f*cking Ice Spears to impale people, another who can magically spawn swords and toss them at you and another who can literally set you on fire, yet nobody ever kicks the bucket. Hell, even the whole {{spoiler|retcon of Lisanna's death}} ruined a ton of character development for Elfman and Mirajane. I understand this is a Shonen manga/anime, but so is Naruto and there are tons of people that have been [[Killed Off for Real|killed off for real]].
* I really don't understand when you have a bunch of super powered mages around, one who can make f*cking Ice Spears to impale people, another who can magically spawn swords and toss them at you and another who can literally set you on fire, yet nobody ever kicks the bucket. Hell, even the whole {{spoiler|retcon of Lisanna's death}} ruined a ton of character development for Elfman and Mirajane. I understand this is a Shonen manga/anime, but so is Naruto and there are tons of people that have been [[Killed Off for Real]].
** So... are you seriously looking for a serious answer? Because there isn't really any real reason as to why no one dies. The author might simply prefer it that way. Heck, the whole reason Trinity Raven exists is because Mashima felt sorry for the guys who were supposed to go down.
** So... are you seriously looking for a serious answer? Because there isn't really any real reason as to why no one dies. The author might simply prefer it that way. Heck, the whole reason Trinity Raven exists is because Mashima felt sorry for the guys who were supposed to go down.
** I've always believed Simon's death was nothing more than a cheap way to subvert the trope considering {{spoiler|Jellal, the one who killed him, ends up alive instead of him.}}
** I've always believed Simon's death was nothing more than a cheap way to subvert the trope considering {{spoiler|Jellal, the one who killed him, ends up alive instead of him.}}
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** The recent chapter confirmed that cutting that Lachrima was useless and there is no way to stop the attack. Besides [[Power of Friendship|the obvious way]].
** The recent chapter confirmed that cutting that Lachrima was useless and there is no way to stop the attack. Besides [[Power of Friendship|the obvious way]].
* Well, I'm personally holding out for Natsu being set up for a major fall at the end of the arc, with his stubborn recklessness blowing up in his face, whether it be a [[Curb Stomp Battle|curbstomping]] from Hades or Bluenote, the destruction of the island thanks to Etherion, [[Tonight Someone Dies|the vision coming to pass]], awakening Zeref, or any combination thereof.
* Well, I'm personally holding out for Natsu being set up for a major fall at the end of the arc, with his stubborn recklessness blowing up in his face, whether it be a [[Curb Stomp Battle|curbstomping]] from Hades or Bluenote, the destruction of the island thanks to Etherion, [[Tonight Someone Dies|the vision coming to pass]], awakening Zeref, or any combination thereof.
** Original poster here again. I'm not against Natsu winning. I just want him to think above "Throw some [[The Determinator|courage]] and [[Playing With Fire|fire]] at it." Maybe [[Misery Builds Character|some painful character development]] will push him in that direction. Though now that I think about it, Gildarts [[Chekhov MIA|has been missing for a bit]] since he {{spoiler|passed Natsu for the exam}}. Maybe ''HE'LL'' be [[Deus Ex Machina|the reason they win.]]
** Original poster here again. I'm not against Natsu winning. I just want him to think above "Throw some [[The Determinator|courage]] and [[Playing with Fire|fire]] at it." Maybe [[Misery Builds Character|some painful character development]] will push him in that direction. Though now that I think about it, Gildarts [[Chekhov MIA|has been missing for a bit]] since he {{spoiler|passed Natsu for the exam}}. Maybe ''HE'LL'' be [[Deus Ex Machina|the reason they win.]]
* In 231 (the latest one out as of my typing this), Rustyrose just parroted Gildarts' advice. Mashima hasn't forgotten.
* In 231 (the latest one out as of my typing this), Rustyrose just parroted Gildarts' advice. Mashima hasn't forgotten.
* I'm reiterating what someone answered in one of the previous questions above: Natsu ''did'' learn something from Gildarts, but it ''is'', after all his [[Hot-Blooded|personality]] to protect his friends and loved ones. Zancrow was threatening to kill Makarov and the Fairy Tail members on the island, while Bluenote revealed that they plan to wipe out {{spoiler|everyone who can't use magic}}. They have {{spoiler|Zeref}} too, and the council have proved themselves to be incompetent [[Ungrateful Bastard|ungrateful bastards]]. Under these circumstances, it's understandable that Natsu chose to fight.
* I'm reiterating what someone answered in one of the previous questions above: Natsu ''did'' learn something from Gildarts, but it ''is'', after all his [[Hot-Blooded|personality]] to protect his friends and loved ones. Zancrow was threatening to kill Makarov and the Fairy Tail members on the island, while Bluenote revealed that they plan to wipe out {{spoiler|everyone who can't use magic}}. They have {{spoiler|Zeref}} too, and the council have proved themselves to be incompetent [[Ungrateful Bastard|ungrateful bastards]]. Under these circumstances, it's understandable that Natsu chose to fight.
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