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** This has been repudiated by a couple of off-hand comments in the new series; the Doctor, at the very least, considers himself a father and a grandfather, and likes being thought of as a being with a sex drive.

** On the other hand, the somewhat more fan-friendly [[Big Finish]] [[Spin-Off]] audios have had the Doctor repeatedly claim that he ''never'' had children, and ''never ever'' [[No Hugging, No Kissing|does the thing you typically need to do]] in order to have children.

** I still can't figure out how all this Fanon got built up when [[Canon]] has Leela ''marry a Time Lord!'' Did everyone fall asleep halfway though ''The Invasion of Time?!''

** T'Pol being in Starfleet before Spock could be integrated into the "Spock was first" fanon if instead of first Vulcan in Starfleet, he was the first Vulcan to enter Starfleet Academy

** That doesn't necessarily violate fanon. U.S.S. ''Intrepid'' had her keel laid down ''after'' the ''Enterprise'' did, and a good while after at that. It's possible her crew is made up of Vulcans who ''followed'' Spock into Starfleet.

*** I always just assumed that starships were segregated with Vulcan ships being kept hotter with higher gravity etc. and thus Spock's presence on a Terran ship was indicative of some type of disagreement with Vulcan. Although, I suppose as a half breed, he's stuck unless he can round up enough half-Vulcans to staff a full ship.

*** From the perspective of Vulcans, who are canonically described as having much longer lifespans than humans (Spock's father lives until the middle of TNG, and Spock himself much longer than that) 200 years isn't all that long. And given the corruption of Surak's teachings described in ''Enterprise'' it's plausible that a generation or two was needed to overcome bigotry to the point that Vulcans felt comfortable in Starfleet in large numbers, with Spock leading the way. Even he had to overcome the generation gap between himself and his father (who was progressive enough among Vulcans to take a human wife). Also, Starfleet as a ''fully-integrated'' entity may be a relatively new thing during TOS--prior to that, the humans, Vulcans, Andorians, etc. maintained separate space fleets (Kirk refers to 'UESPA'--United Earth Space Probe Agency--in an early episode; he may have been a holdover from the Earth contingent incorporated into the Federation's Starfleet. And we know from ''Enterprise'' that the Vulcans and Andorians--at the time bitter enemies--had separate space fleets). There are any number of ways, alone or in combination, that canon and fanon can be reconciled believeably on this point.

'''Spock''': I exaggerated. }}

* Despite the fact that we've only seen them dating men, Olivia and Alex on ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit|Law & Order: SVU]]'' are claimed as lesbians by the show's large lesbian fanbase. Some of these fans were outraged when, in the episode "Ghost", Alex told Olivia about the man she'd been seeing. The term "manvil" was coined to describe the show supposedly [[Anvilicious|dropping anvils]] that Alex likes men. Said accusation [[No Bisexuals|neatly ignores the possibility of bisexuality]], but as always [[Subtext]] is where you find it. And of course, it wasn't nearly so bad as Serena Southerlyn's [[Ass Pull|last minute coming out]].

** [[Word of God]] declared that there was, in fact, [[Unresolved Sexual Tension|UST]] between the two women. The actress who plays Alex basically admitted that something was going on:

* On ''[[Gilmore Girls]]'', the character Tristin repeatedly called Rory "Mary" as a nod to her innocent appearance and actions. In fanon, Rory and other characters often call Tristin "Bible Boy" though it was never spoken on-screen.

** One notable example of ''PR'' fanon becoming canon happened in 2002: a long-time fan began writing for the show in its tenth season, and made multiple references to an older fandom-wide missing episode hoax in a pivotal episode, suddenly canonizing the hoax's storyline.

*** Billy's last name (he was never given one in-show, but the fans made it up, and when the official website was put together, they just [[Throw It In|threw it in]]).

*** Z Delgado of SPD is the daughter of Danny Delgado of Wild Force.

*** One bit of fanon acknowledged by the creators is the idea that ''Operation Overdrive'''s Mack was created as a [[Sex Bot]], to explain why Hartford would create a robotic "son" that's already an adult. According to [[Word of God]], concerns were raised about this during the show's production, but dismissed because Bruce Kalish didn't think anyone would be warped enough to reach that conclusion. He was wrong.

** Somewhere between fanon, [[Actor Allusion]] and fandom inside-joke is the idea that Taylor (from [[Power Rangers Wild Force]]) and Tommy (from... well, everything) hooked up. This is because their actors were in a sex scene together on the MTV show [[Undressed]].

** [[Jossed]] by the fact that their car was registered to either the production company or George Barris, and on those occasions where the front or back is shown, no effort was made to conceal or disguise the California plates.

*** Then again, one episode showed that they were somewhere close enough to a Soviet embassy that a phone book local to the embassy would list them. In the 1960s, that would place them within an hour's drive of either Washington or New York, making Westfield or Edgewater good candidates, but anywhere in California somewhat unlikely.

** The fans are adamant that Book was a former Operative, to the point of decrying ''The Shepherd's Tale'' which says otherwise, and many people considering it [[Fanon Discontinuity|non-canon]].

** Likewise, the belief that River's parents knew what the Academy was and had been either paid or coerced into sending her there, possibly even having conceived her solely for that purpose, is fairly widespread. This is implied in the episode "Safe", where River is shown to be [[The Unfavorite]] and they brush off Simon as imagining things when he shows them her coded letters, but it's never directly stated and it's possible they really did believe nothing was wrong, or else realized Simon was right but were too afraid of losing their money and status to do anything about it.

* About half of the episodes of ''[[Highlander the Series]]'' are set in an unnamed city in the Pacific Northwest. Fans unanimously referred to this city as "Seacouver" (a portmanteau of "Seattle" and "Vancouver") but this was never explicitly stated on the show itself. The "Watcher CD" given away with VHS box sets (and, later, the DVD extras) finally made this name official.

* Fanon for ''[[The Lone Gunmen]]'' can be traced back to a handful of very old fanfics. These include: the idea that Langley used to be addicted to drugs, and giving him the nickname "Ree," the speculation that Frohike had served in Vietnam as a sniper, and that Byers was a widower. Another fanon element [[Fanon Discontinuity|defiantly ignores]] the aptly-named episode "[[Jump the Shark]]" to state that [[Unreliable Narrator|Fletcher]] was lying through his teeth (with the Gunmen's strangely OOC behavior being offered up as "proof") and/or that the Gunmen faked their deaths.

* ''[[The Shield]]'' has Ronnie Gardocki, an [[Ascended Extra]] character who was the subject to much fanon as far as fans of the character grafting onto him a personality of Ronnie being a geeky cop who fell in with the bad crowd that was the Strike Team, as opposed to be being inherently corrupt. While the show and actor David Rees Snell largely embraced this fandom-based viewpoint towards the character (indeed, a plot point in the season seven premier was based around the notion of Ronnie having never killed a man in cold blood until that episode), it didn't stop the actor from acknowledging [[Draco in Leather Pants|how his fans often downplayed his character's willingness to do bad things]], [[Misaimed Fandom|pointing out that Ronnie had to been somewhat evil in order to have been recruited into the Strike Team]].

** Season Six tells us yes and no, but close on those two (Richard was actually a ''prisoner'' on board the Black Rock).

** Some fans have taken to calling the Smoke Monster Esau, after biblical Jacob's older brother. This may be [[Better Than Canon]] since the Man in Black's name ended up being, essentially, "Hey You".

*** As per his original casting call (and confirmed later by Kristin Dos Santos), his name is meant to be Samuel, although this is never properly stated.

* ''[[Supernatural]]'': fanfic featuring Anna before she became human will almost invariably call her 'Anael'.

** It's surprisingly accepted that Dean was either sexually abused (by someone else, [[Ron the Death Eater|not John]]) or at least used sex inappropriately when he was younger. Hell, even his [[Jensen Ackles|actor]] thinks he whored himself out to pay with the bills.

*** There's a difference between the Fandom and the [[Fan Dumb]]. A much more popular theory is that Dean is a closeted bisexual. Be certain of hearing about [[Stupid Sexy Flanders|Doctor]] [[Guilty Pleasure|Sexy]].

** I once read a review of a fanfic where the reviewer said that "Dean wouldn't be able to call Sam 'Samantha' anymore". As a matter of fact, Dean has never used that particular insult outside of fanfics (and not this one, other ones). Apparently this meme got to the point of the reviewer thinking it had happened in the show.

* Strangely common in ''[[Glee]]'' fanfic is the idea that [[Alpha Bitch|Quinn]] [[Fallen Princess|Fabray]] is a brilliant pianist. Occasionally added is the idea that her parents sold her beloved piano after she became a Cheerio.

** Kurt and Puck adore ''[[Harry Potter]]''. If one of them only shows up in a fic once, it will be to agree with the other one that HP is [[A Very Potter Musical|totally awesome]].

** Abbie Carmichael seems to be gay in a terrifying number of fics, considering how [[Blonde Republican Sex Kitten|conservative]] she was, and the fate of her successor (you sort of don't care if she's paired with Olivia Benson).

** And until recently it was very, ''very'' well accepted fanon that Olivia was at least bi. This was given a [[Fandom Nod]], then promptly [[Jossed]].

** There is also Wendy, who is a recurring [[Mr. Exposition]] on the show, being blown up into the Seattle version of [[Gossip Girl]].

* Sheldon of the ''[[Big Bang Theory]]'' displays classic signs of Asperger's Syndrome, but the creators have shot down that idea. It doesn't stop the fans from making this guess though.

* One bit of widely accepted ''[[NCIS]]'' fanon is that Ziva was raped at some stage, most likely multiple times. Somalia is pretty much the epitome of Ziva going through hell.

** ''[[Engine Sentai Go-onger]]'': Hiroto and Miu are twins. Their ''[[Power Rangers]]'' counterparts are twins, but while Hiroto is acknowledged to be older than Miu (and looks much older) their ages are not confirmed.

** ''[[Choujin Sentai Jetman]]'': Fan opinion differs on whether or not {{spoiler|Gai}} is really dead. {{spoiler|The tie-in manga sequel states he is, but not all fans take it as canon}}.

** Sugishita from ''[[Bakuryuu Sentai Abaranger]]'' is a wizard, time-traveller, or controls entry to different dimensions. Comes from the Dino Curry House being used as an [[Inn Between the Worlds]] in the Vs specials, but this appears to have been dropped as of ''Shinkenger vs Go-onger'' with the death of Sugishita's actor.

** ''[[Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger]]'': Umeko is the leader of the Dekarangers. Appears to be more of a [[Running Gag]] than anything else. The closest they have to a leader on-screen is Doggie.

** ''[[Tensou Sentai Goseiger]]'': The Goseigers are [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old]]. [[Word of God]] gives them ages between 17 (Moune) and 24 (Hyde).

** ''[[Ninja Sentai Kakuranger]]'': The Kakurangers all have the same family names as their legendary ancestors: Ōhōri Tsuruhime, Sarutobi Sasuke, Kirigakure Saizou and Miyoshi Seikai.

* ''[[Kamen Rider]]'':

** ''[[Kamen Rider Double]]'': Shotaro was a petty criminal in the past. This is based on a flashback in one of the Jewel Dopant episodes to him running from Jinno when Jinno was a beat cop.

*** [[Kamen Rider Ryuki|Ren Akiyama]] is the father of the little girl featured in episodes 5-6, because the doll her father gave her resembles Kamen Rider Knight.

** ''[[Kamen Rider OOO]]'': Chiyoko Shiraishi is related to Mako Shiraishi from ''[[Samurai Sentai Shinkenger]]'', or (since ''Decade'' states that the Shinkengers' world has never had a Kamen Rider) is some kind of AU counterpart to Mako or her family. Both OOO and Shinkenger were written by Yasuko Kobayashi.

* The ''[[Sherlock]]'' [[Kink Meme]] has spawned the idea that Anderson has a dinosaur fetish.

** There's also a great deal of [[Crossover]]-y fun involved in figuring out who the "married ones next door" are.

*** In post-Reichenbach fics, {{spoiler|Sherlock sometimes dies his hair red while he's pretending to be dead.}}

** Sherlock's eventual {{spoiler|reunion with John post-Reichenbach is normally after three years (as it was in the novels)}} and John either punches Sherlock, kisses him, or faints (depending on whether or not ther person is a shipper and if they've read the originals).

** Lestrade apparently got Sherlock off of drugs as a condition for letting him consult.

** It's commonly accepted that the Holmes family is very, very rich. Many stories involve the "Holmes Estate".

** Lestrade has a young daughter.

* In [[The OC]], fans think Alex's ex-girlfriend Jodie is an emancipated minor and also a lesbian [[Casanova]].

** Lex has mutant healing powers. It explains his quick recoveries, the fact that his constant brain injuries haven't killed him yet, and why he's so interested in meteor mutants.