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'''Note 1''': Do not include examples based only in adaptations. Adaptations can not be discontinuous since it is not part of the continuity of the original.

'''Note 2''': [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Like|Personal examples should not be posted here]]. The examples posted here should only be of groups of fandoms.

** Similarly, many fans ignore the [[Bittersweet Ending]] of ''[[Digimon Tamers (Anime)|Digimon Tamers]]'', where the kids are separated from their Digimon and it's left ambiguous as to whether they'll see them again. One of the movies (made without the input of the original creative team) revealed that the kids reunited with the Digimon fairly quickly (though incidentally, this issue was only ever mentioned in the dub). [[Canon Dis ContinuityDiscontinuity]] was declared with the release of the drama CDs, which said that [[The Stinger]] at the end of the series never amounted to anything, and the kids have gone several years without their Digimon with no indication they'll see each other again. Guess which one fans prefer.

** And now ''[[Digimon Xros Wars: the Young Hunters Leaping Through Time (Anime)|Digimon Xros Wars theThe Young Hunters Leaping Through Time]]'' never happened, according to the fans anyway. Most likely due to near the entire show being filler, most of the plot happening in the final 3 episodes, 2 plot twists that come out of nowhere (Psychemon being Quartzmon, and the Watch Man being a reincarnated Bagramon) and [[CreatorsCreator's Pet|Tagiru]] hogging the spotlight way more than a protagonist needs to. How bad does it get? All the previous heroes from the previous shows become living power ups for Tagiru, who fights the final battle alone.

* Because of [[Plot Hole|plot holes]] and overall silliness, many ''[[DragonballDragon Ball]]'' fans reject ''[[DragonballDragon Ball]] GT'' altogether. It's made easier because it's not based on any manga and because [[Akira Toriyama]] didn't write it. After the Buu saga, Toriyama (after multiple failed tries to end his [[Cash Cow Franchise]]) finally put up his pen for good. [[Executive Meddling|When executives tried to force him to continue]], he gave them some concept art and told them to do whatever they wanted with it. It should be noted that Toriyama apparently liked some of the plot developments in GT; he didn't ''completely'' despise it.

* Members of the current ''[[Pokémon (Animeanime)|Pokémon]]'' fandom are more likely to ignore just ''Johto Journeys'' and ''Johto League Champions'', skipping straight from the Orange Islands to either ''Master Quest'' at the end of Johto or to Hoenn, or just ignore everything after Kanto entirely

** The first episode of ''Best Wishes!'' claims that [[Not Allowed to Grow Up|Ash]] [[Comic Book Time|Ash is still 10 years old]]. This has not gone down well with fans who prefer to think that [[Webcomic Time|that he was simply aging slower than real time]].

* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! 5 Ds5D's]]'' was well received by fans of the franchise, especially those who have been sticking with it since at least the beginning of the new series. That is until episode 107 when the big bad of the current arc revealed in Episode 107 that he his secretly... a robot motorcycle centaur. Wait, what?

** Most fans were not fussed when 4Kids decided to omit the last season of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]''. It does have [[Unfortunate Implications|unfortunate implications]] as far as the fate of Jaden is concerned, but that's still better than having the fourth season and its unfortunate implications as far as the fate of the world is concerned.

** Some people disregard the third season of ''5D's'' in its entirety, citing filler, [[Invincible Hero|Invincible Heroes]]es, and bad characterization. Others disregard the second season (or just the way it handled [[Chickification|Aki]] and [[God Mode Sue|Crow]]), or ''5D's'' itself for [[Memetic Mutation|COD GAEMS AWN MOTERBYKZ]]. Then you have ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]'' fans, who disregard the slow, silly, and badly-plotted fourth season, as above, the oppressively dark and [[Fridge Logic]]-filled third season, or the whole show again. Then you have fans of the original, who will tell you that some or all of the filler arcs never occurred, will tell you that the dark and somewhat incomprehensible Millennium World arc never occurred, and features a contingent that puts forth the theory that the entire franchise ended at the end of the old "Monster World" arc in the manga, which occurred right before the Duelist Kingdom arc began and the series became [[Merchandise -Driven]].

** The latest revelation resulted in what could be [[Base Breaker|the biggest explosion]] of [[Yu-Gi-Oh!]] history. {{spoiler|1=The 'Zone=/=Yusei'}} twist left fans reeling after weeks of foreshadowing to the theory being proven right, only to get completely stamped on and thrown out the window all of a sudden. [[Broken Base|The fans have been torn into three camps]] those who cannot accept this, those who can wholeheartedly and those who can accept it, but aren't best pleased. The former are coming up with new theories just to ignore the canon's explanation; {{spoiler|a scientist wanted to recreate himself as Yusei to give hope to everyone, including looking up Internet files that included Accel and Delta Accel Synchro already learned by Yusei; including Zone being forgotten loner Sly amongst others}}. It doesn't help that {{spoiler|the episode before finished with half of Zone's mask falling off, revealing Yusei's face}} which gave fans hope they'd both get decent [[Character Development]]. Quite a few are on the lines of ignoring the duel completely and focusing on the finale.

* The fandom is divided on whether or not to accept {{spoiler|Nia's death}} at the end of ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]''. Those who dislike it because it ignores the show's established premise of "[[Determinator|nothing is inevitable/impossible]]" consider the show to end at {{spoiler|the kiss between Simon and Nia at their wedding}}, ignoring the rest of the series finale.

** In addition, just about everyone agrees that most of episode 4 never happened, mainly because the episode has a completely different (and worse) style from the rest of the series because of a different director. Even the official manga adaption [[Canon Dis ContinuityDiscontinuity|rewrote that part]], removing the weird puffball Beastmen and introducing Kittan and his sisters around the time of Viral's attack. Part of this is also a reaction to the producer insulting everyone at 2ch and stating that he hates [[Otaku]] even though [[Studio Gainax]]'s main fanbase ''is'' Otaku -- andOtaku—and the owner [[Proud to Be Aa Geek|openly proclaimed himself to be one]] -- and—and then resigned.

*** So did the [[Compilation Movie|Compilation Movies]]s. [[Canon Dis ContinuityDiscontinuity|come to think of it]]...

{{quote| Simon: You can't do that! You can't just skip reality!<br />

** And then you have the people who ignore everything after {{spoiler|Kamina's death in}} episode 8.

** In the Shipping Fandom, ALL sides (especially the Big Three [[Just Friends|NaruSaku]], [[Star BoardingStarboarding|NaruHina]], and [[Love Hurts|SasuSaku]]...and [[True Companions|NaruSasu]] too I guess) like to ignore some parts of the manga that support other couples. Some (extreme) [[Ship Mates|NaruHina and SasuSaku]] fans refuse to believe/remember any chapters/pages that could hint at [[Just Friends|NaruSaku]](as evident by the biased comment that was here before I edited...). Some(also extreme) [[Just Friends|NaruSaku]] fans downplay Hinata's actions(especially the Pain battle). Goes even further when the characters themselves suffer from discontinuity(particularly [[Die for Our Ship|Sakura]] who suffers to the extreme) in that thoughts, feelings, words, and actions are ignored just because it could be used as support for the other pairing.

** The fandom has gone into apoplectic fits trying to reconcile Itachi's sudden [[Heel Face Turn]] during his fight with Sasuke. The problem isn't so much the idea of {{spoiler|him having been secretly loyal to Konoha all these years}}, but the fact that there was nothing whatsoever in the manga even suggesting such a thing, making the revelation seem like a [[Shocking Swerve]] out of left field.

** There are quite a few of fanfic depicting Neji to be an [[My Sister Is Off -Limits|overprotective]] towards Hinata and is constantly [[If You Ever Do Anything to Hurt Her...|hounding]] Naruto, as if he was the one who attempted to kill Hinata. Despite the fact that Neji actually [[Shipper Onon Deck|urge her to see Naruto off]].

* To most ''[[Saber Marionette J (Anime)|Saber Marionette J]]'' watchers, the anime only has 25 episodes, ending when Lorelei and Otaru discussed the [[Heroic Sacrifice]] of Cherry, Lime, and Bloodberry, and Otaru walked off upset and missing them, instead of all three of them coming back to life as if nothing ever happened without any logical explanation.

* There are several points in ''[[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]]'' where fans often invoke this trope. There's when Light regains his memory and (re)turns evil; some people ignore that and everything that happened afterward, considering Light to have remained L's partner instead. Some ignore {{spoiler|what happened shortly afterward, L's death}}; some or accept the previous spoiler, but reject everything that occurred after it; some accept everything until the ending of the series, when {{spoiler|Light is killed}}. Complicating things further, the anime (slightly) adjusts the manga's ending. {{spoiler|Light still dies, but he dies}} with slightly more dignity, managing to escape but then {{spoiler|getting killed by Ryuk, who doesn't want to be bored while Light's in prison. In the anime, he has a [[Freak -Out]] prior to his death}}.

* Some fans didn't accept Flay's death at the end of ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam SEED (Anime)|Gundam SEED]]''; either they pretend it didn't happen, or they go the [[Fix Fic]] route.

** And many of the fans think ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny (Anime)|Gundam SEED Destiny]]'' is not part of the ''Gundam'' series.

** ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing (Anime)|Gundam Wing]]'' is a matter if [[Alternate Character Interpretation]] in many terms, most often when it comes to the [[Ho Yay]] ([[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]]s, this means you!) The ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing Endless Waltz (Anime)|Mobile Suit Gundam Wing Endless Waltz]]'' OVA doesn't suffer from this, probably because everyone is glad Zechs is back.

** The [[Compilation Movie]] version of ''[[Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (Anime)|Zeta Gundam]]'' ended on a much happier note, with protagonist Kamille ''not'' getting [[Mind Raped]] by the [[Big Bad]], and [[The Remnant|Axis]] quietly packing up and leaving. Many fans decided that this meant ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ (Anime)|Gundam ZZ]]'', long reviled for its [[Mood Whiplash]], was non-canon. They still insist this, despite [[Yoshiyuki Tomino]] himself saying that the movie is merely [[Alternate Continuity]] and ''ZZ'' still happened.

* Some veteran ''[[Mai-Otome]]'' fans will invariably advise newcomers to the series to avoid the [[Oddly -Named Sequel 2: Electric Boogaloo]] [[OVA]] ''Mai-Otome Zwei'' at all costs, mostly due to excessive and pointless [[Fan Service]] and [[Ass Pull|plot points that make no sense]] within the context of the series.

* Several, if not most, fans were outraged at {{spoiler|the effective [[Character Derailment]] of Manaka and Toujo}} at the end of ''[[StrawberryIchigo One Hundred Percent100%|Strawberry 100%]]'', when, after all the not-so-subtle hinting that {{spoiler|he and Toujo were a [[Red String of Fate]] couple and she was the only one he was truly happy with, could relate to, etc., he}} goes and {{spoiler|picks Nishino out of pity or "she was there first" more than anything else, and she doesn't even put up a fight.}} Most like to imagine that, in the author's private gallery, the real ending exists in which he comes to his senses and chooses the right one at the end; the "official" one was published due to [[Executive Meddling]]. These fans reject this turn of events hard because it ruins a comic that was otherwise a masterpiece.

{{quote| [[Snicket Warning Label|"This is the end of happiness in ''Saikano''. If you would prefer the anime to have a happy ending, consider stopping here and pretending there are no more episodes. Continuing will only bring misery and pain. You have been warned."]]}}

* In ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]'', many fans want to pretend that {{spoiler|Kalinin's betrayal}} never happened. After his [[Tear Jerker|touching backstory]] with young Sousuke was released, his {{spoiler|[[Face Heel Turn]]}} just didn't sit well. {{spoiler|The one person it seemed he would never betray had been Sousuke, since he felt great guilt and felt that he owed him and thought of him as a son}}.

** Also, Kaname's sudden transformation from a capable [[Action Girl]] who matches Sousuke well into a [[Brainwashed]] [[Damsel in Distress]] who follows [[White -Haired Pretty Boy|Leonard]] around. Most people like to believe this development didn't occur.

* To quite a few ''[[Bleach (Manga)|Bleach]]'' fans, Yammy {{spoiler|really is the 10th Espada, and there is no such thing as a 0 Espada}}.

* ''[[Code Geass (Anime)|Code Geass]]'' fans often are unsatisfied with the official ending as declared by the [[Word of God]] in which {{spoiler|Lelouch dies for real at the end of the series.}}

* Many fans of the ''[[Witchblade (Comic Book)|Witchblade]]'' comics will scream at [[Witchblade (Animeanime)|the anime]] for one reason. It completely ignores the fact that the Witch Blade is not a [[Deadly Upgrade]] [[MacGuffin]]. Quite the opposite. The saddest part of all is that it's entirely justified hatred, given that the anime is officially recognized canon.

* Endless Eight. A lengthy repetition of time, plot, and scenery. Not to mention more than half of the second season of ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|Haruhi Suzumiya]]''. As soon as the arc ended, all of the [[Image Boards]] [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|celebrated]].

* The [[Rurouni Kenshin]] [[Non -Serial Movie]] ''Seisouhen'' (known as ''Requiem'' in English). Its [[Character Derailment|many]], [[Canon Defilement|many]], [[Happy Ending Override|many]], [[Diabolus Ex Machina|many]] shortcomings have been discussed to death elsewhere on this wiki, so it suffices to say here that most fans deny its existence.

** Nobuhiro Watsuki himself did not have complete control over the movie, and was [https://web.archive.org/web/20080727032541/http://www.mania.com/anime-expo-friday-report_article_86123.html not entirely happy about the ending].

* Two main points keep [[Elfen Lied]] fans from fully accepting the well-done-if-truncated anime. One is {{spoiler|Kurama's death}}, which keeps it forever outside even a latter-day pick-up series following the manga, and Kohta's decision to {{spoiler|forgive Lucy/Nyu for his family's murder}}

* The ''[[Lucky Star (Anime)|Lucky Star]]'' fandom dismisses Konata's comment on her not being lesbian as her being in the closet, not realizing it, or just plain out ignoring the quote. The fandom also ignores anything post-high school, manga-wise.

* For the most part, the [[Tenchi Muyo!]] fandom would simply prefer to believe that the third OVA never existed.

* The ''[[Fist of the North Star]]'' manga is often divided into two major eras: the Raoh-era ("[[First Installment Wins|the good era]]"); and the post-[[Time Skip]]-era ("[[Sequelitis|the not-so-good era]]"). Originally, Buronson and Tetsuo Hara intended to end the manga with the death of Kenshiro's main rival Raoh. However, due to contractual obligations they had with Shueisha, they were forced to extend the manga's storyline by a few years. This led to the sudden introductions of other rival martial art schools for Kenshiro to face that were somehow not around during the earlier conflicts, too much emphasis on [[Plot Tumor|ki-based attacks]] (when they were originally used only for special occasions), and the sudden appearances of way too many [[Long -Lost Relative|long lost relatives]] (especially Raoh's brother Kaioh, a character who can easily be described as "[[Backup Twin|Raoh with a scar on his face]]"). Many of the more recent spin-off works and side-stories rarely acknowledge any of the events after the death of Raoh, outside of a few plot points (like the retconned origin story of how Raoh, Toki, and Kenshiro were originally refuges from Shura).

* Some [[Black Butler]] fans LOVE forgetting that {{spoiler|Grell is a male to female transsexual}}, despite the [[Word of God]]. Becomes [[Unfortunate Implications|specially ugly]] if we're talking of {{spoiler|rabid [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]]s who hate the idea that Grell/Sebastian is actually het instead of yaoi.}} (Though, to be fair, if one hasn't read said [[Word of God]] and doesn't know it exists, it's easy to read her as merely hopeful.)

* There's also a sizable contingent in [[Black Butler]] fandom which disavows the second series because of its ending, in which {{spoiler|Ciel becomes a demon, forcing Sebastian to be his servant for all eternity, since he now has no mortal soul with which to pay for services rendered.}}. In fact, even some who otherwise love the second series have been heard to shun the ending.

* [[Canaan]] fans, especially shippers, prefer to forget the whole {{spoiler|"Canaan and Maria went their separate ways and never met again"}} part of the ending.

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