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Note 1: If you're going to list the events from a specific run on a certain comic, please list the ''events'' that you are ignoring, not the actual person writing for it, which would being ignoring real life events.

 

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== DC Comics ==

* Go talk to many diehard fans of DC's ''[[Young Justice (comics)|Young Justice]]'' and they'll tell you that Robin, [[Superboy]] and Wonder Girl's personalities weren't completely rewritten, and Bart Allen is still Impulse, and the Secret is still... the Secret. And Slobo was never put into any kind of [[And I Must Scream]] situation.

* As far as some fans are concerned, Jason Todd is '''''STILL DEAD.''''' End of story.

** For others, Jason Todd is alive and well and in no way threatened with the impending [[Moral Event Horizon]] of shooting his "replacement".

* Some fans of ''[[Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld]]'' INSIST that it was cancelled immediately after its original creators left. Any stories tying Amethyst in to Dr. Fate's Lords of Order or the Legion of Super-Heroes are just the work of crazy fanfic writers who like to cross over everything. What really happened was, Amethyst returned the youngest Princess Emerald to the Gemworld, sent Carnelian to a Gemworld jail, got over Topaz and let him and Lady Turquoise marry, and returned to Earth. And she was never involved in ''[[Crisis on Infinite Earths]]'' or anything else that had to do with the DC Universe, either.

** Of course [[Running the Asylum|Any stories tying Amethyst in to Dr. Fate's Lords of Order or the Legion of Super-Heroes ''are'' just the work of crazy fanfic writers who like to cross over everything]], but that doesn't mean they're not cannon.

** Fans typically ignore the confirmation that Terra is a {{spoiler|princess and the implication that she has her memories, but just doesn't want to be a super hero.}} Shippers often ignore Sara and Cyborg too.

** This is actually given further weight in the favor of the fans, in that prior to little Helena's birth, Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle decided to have a night to themselves, without their masks, eventually leading to them taking their relationship to the next step. Selina and Sam had... not quite as much to suggest he was the father by comparison.

* Even more Bat-wanking...for decades there has never been an official origin for The Joker, which fits in with his chaotic nature as he himself says he remembers the past differently each time. So you can imagine the fan outcry when in 2006 DC announced they were giving The Joker an official canonical origin story. You can imagine the further outcry when said story turned out to be terrible, reducing The Joker to a generic mafia hitman named Jack whose war with Batman is sparked when he injures Bruce Wayne's girlfriend, and Batman retaliates by disfiguring his face with a Batarang. Fans loathed it, and many refuse to acknowledge the story's existence. While DC has never officially retracted the story, all subsequent Joker tales have completely ignored it, and Joker's official profile on DC's website currently gives him no definitive origin.

* The events in ''[[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]]'', wherein which two of the Titans' home support, [[Superfriends|Wendy & Marvin]] adopt a "Wonder Dog", contemplate their roles in the team and then are attacked by said Wonder Dog (who was really a demonic thing) which leaves Marvin dead and Wendy in a coma. She has since awaken from said coma, only to discover that she is now paralyzed and is being taken under Oracle's wing. Many people prefer that this had never happened. The Wonder Dog thing, not so much the "Oracle's protege" thing.

* ''[[DC Nation]]'', a roleplaying site set in [[The DCU]], is hoping to generate this via [[Word of Dante]]. The moderators cheerfully admit that much of the ''point'' is to salvage what works, and give a middle finger to what doesn't. Because it's been going on for six years, it's build up a solid [[Alternate Continuity]].

** The Marvel Family's [[The Obi-Wan|ancient and powerful mentor]], the wizard Shazam, was apparently [[Killed Off for Real]] during a battle with the Spectre to further the plans of the villains of Infinite Crisis.

** [[The Cape (trope)|Captain Marvel]] was [[Put on a Bus]] and made caretaker of the Wizard's power, forcing him to spend virtually all of his time sitting inside of a mountain at the heart of time and space and being unable to really interact with the outside world much at all. This was supposedly to let him deal with mystical threats beyond those of normal superheroes, but when a threat comes along that was intended to literally reshape the nature of magic in the DCU, Cap's involvement was essentially to sit down at a table and chat with some people for one issue and do nothing else.

*** Yeah, you can thank [[Judd Winick]] for that. Putting aside the fact that it is incredibly stupid to fundamentally change a character/superhero "team" that, by and large, hasn't been changed since they were created back when Winick's ''father'' was a child, the "justification" is even worse: it is equivalent to saying that since Superman is the strongest hero on Earth, there should be no reason for him to stop common criminals and non-powered supervillains.

** [[Distaff Counterpart|Mary Marvel]] was [[Brought Down to Normal]] as well, and was not allowed to go on [[Hero's Journey]] that Captain Marvel Jr. did, and instead wound up seeking out [[Black Adam]], both a [[Fallen Hero]] and [[Evil Counterpart]] of Captain Marvel. <s>She convinces Adam to give her [[Black Magic|his power]], which gives her a brand new [[Evil Is Sexy|tight black costume complete with super-short skirt]]. Naturally, superpowers taken from someone evil results in Mary having a [[Face Heel Turn]] as she slowly decides that [[Evil Feels Good]], after using her powers to turn two security guards into statues. Eventually she has a [[This Is Your Brain on Evil]] realization, rejects her powers, and goes on another quest to atone, eventually getting her original powers back at slightly reduced levels. Then Darkseid shows up and offers her Black Adam's powers again, but clearly this quest has taught her that evil superpowers are bad, accepting power from evil beings is also bad, and so she'll just punch him in the face, right? Nope, instead she apparently suffers a case of [[Aesop Amnesia]], accepts the power and not only becomes evil of her own free will, but goes all out [[Drunk on the Dark Side]], complete with an even more [[Stripperiffic]] outfit.</s> ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis]]'' happened, but unlike most of the stuff that was declared [[Canon Discontinuity]], Mary still had to be evil. She was '''supposed''' to be merely possessed by a New God, but had to be reworked after ''Final Crisis'' was over. So she's now evil because of Black Adam's [[Bad Powers, Bad People]]. Some of the worst examples of [[Corrupt the Cutie]] and [[Character Derailment]]. EVER.

* ''[[Amazons Attack]]'' is often considered one big example of [[Fanon Discontinuity]], but it gets a special notice for the Supergirl and Wonder Girl plotline, which involved them siding with the genocidal Amazon invaders, taking down Air Force One, and leading the President into an ambush. As they never faced any consequences for what certainly amounts to high treason (beyond some mild public displeasure), it seems even DC probably considers this [[Canon Discontinuity]].

* [[Captain Atom]] fans generally disregard the existence of ''Countdown: Arena''.

 

== Marvel Comics ==

** The assumption of [[Fanon Discontinuity]] has become so prevalent that many Marvelverse fanfic writers don't even bother to add a disclaimer mentioning that the writer is ignoring Civil War in a particular fanfic, as it's pretty much implied.

* Ask [[Spider-Man]] fans who liked the marriage, and they'll tell you that Mary Jane and Peter Parker are still happily married. ''One More Day'' was a rejected idea by [[Running the Asylum|a fan]] who hated the last 30 years of ''Spider-Man''.

* This whole Totem concept introduced by [[J. Michael Straczynski]], which has been disregarded by many. Spider-Man did not get his powers from a spider-totem; Morlun suffered from a case of [[Mistaken Identity]] in going after Spidey; Spider-Man never died after getting his eye ripped out before coming back from the dead to eat Morlun alive; and he never got any new powers.

* Other products of Spider-Man's [[Dork Age]] that many fans write out of their version of 'canon' include these:

* Fans of [[Captain America (comics)]]'s partner The Falcon insist that he was never revealed to have been a pimp. And the less said about "Iron Cap", the better.

* Due to the massively unpopular rewrites of canon history and the characters themselves, most fans of Malibu Comic's Ultraverse tend to ignore the books written after Marvel Comics bought the rights to them in the mid-90s.

** Dr. Doom ''most certainly'' did '''not''' get his ass handed to him by [[Iron Man|Tony Stark's]] new team of fascism-abiding "Avengers" in a flagrant violation of international law against a sovereign nation, and to suggest that he was then subsequently imprisoned by said miscreants is just laughable. Such libelous poppycock is ''beneath'' the notice of Doom.

** He also absolutely ''did not'', at any time during this clearly fictional sequence of events, ever lapse into speech patterns whose vulgarity, crudity, and misogyny would have shamed both the intellect and character of your average gang-banging crack addict.

** Hilariously, Doom himself is known to indulge in exactly this sort of historical revisionism. He keeps an official Editor on staff to remove or improve the records of all his embarrassing moments. The above items are probably that Editor's work.

** He was beaten by [[Squirrel Girl]], though. That was written by [[Steve Ditko]]! That's so in continuity!

*** There's a Victor Von Doom who was raised by the Red Skull that was tossed into the Multiverse. It happened in A-Next. He's probably racist.

** A lot of us try and make others wake up and smell the coffee in that DOOM would ''not'' make a [[Deal with the Devil]] in order to go after that ''infernal'' Richards, after what happened to his mother dearest. No matter ''what'' Mark Waid would think.

* Don't get X-Fans started on ''[[House of M]]'' and the ''Decimation'' that resulted. Wanda Maximoff's depowering all the B-list and lower mutants in the Marvel Universe simply by saying 'No More Mutants' is just too ridiculous a [[Diabolus Ex Machina]] to be accepted as canon, and it's a textbook case of [[Writer on Board]]. Many fans still curse Brian Michael Bendis' very name to this day.

** And many general-Marvel fans go further by refusing to accept ''Disassembled'', the arc that came before ''House of M''. Though far from being the biggest problem with the arc, a good number have cited some of the author-induced [[Idiot Ball|sheer stupidity]] that Doctor Strange displays when he shows up as a reason, and this was one of the biggest things dealt with in the subsequent ''"What If..."'' story based on the arc.

* The above image is the prequel to ''Heroes Reborn'', a series most have trouble accepting: no one believes that the [[Fantastic Four]], [[Iron Man]], [[Captain America (comics)]], and [[The Avengers (Comic Book)|The Avengers]] were saved from imminent destruction by being whisked into a pocket universe created by Franklin Richards. And the idea that they were gone for about a year, having [[Darker and Edgier]] adventures that were [[Bizarro Universe|''almost but not the same'']] as their established histories (often with [[Rob Liefeld|ridiculously grotesque anatomy and excessive scowl marks]]), then conveniently return to the original Marvel U with nary a glance back sounds more like bad fanfic (or a [[Executive Meddling|cynical marketing gimmick]]) than anything ''plausible.''

* The "reveal" in the "Illuminati" mini that The Beyonder was "actually" a mutant Inhuman is ignored not only for the plot holes it creates (how does that explain his link with the Molecule Man?) or for the sheer stupidity of it.

** Yet two wrongs don't make a right, and the Emma Frost thing doesn't sit too well with some fans either.

** Then again, Jean even dating Scott is [[Fanon Discontinuity]] for the Jean/Logan fans, so there seems to be a line where this goes too far and just makes for messy fanon.

 

== [[Image Comics]] ==

 

== [[Archie Comics]] ==

 

== [[Franco Belgian Comics]] ==

 

== Other Comics ==

* ''[[Sonic the Comic]]'' fans do this to comics that are just considered [[Mind Screw]]'s or otherwise poor. ''Amy's Secret Past'', which is extremely inconsistent with canon (and the "She's not naturally pink" thing pissed off some fans), and ''Bravehog'' (which is also extremely inconsistent and had horrible artwork) come to mind. There's also a select few fans who ignore the ''[[Sonic Adventure]]'' arc, or at least {{spoiler|Johnny's death}}.

 

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