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** The Marvel Family's [[The Obi-Wan|ancient and powerful mentor]], the wizard Shazam, was apparently [[Killed Off for Real]] during a battle with the Spectre to further the plans of the villains of Infinite Crisis.
** The Marvel Family's [[The Obi-Wan|ancient and powerful mentor]], the wizard Shazam, was apparently [[Killed Off for Real]] during a battle with the Spectre to further the plans of the villains of Infinite Crisis.
** [[The Cape (trope)|Captain Marvel]] was [[Put on a Bus]] and made caretaker of the Wizard's power, forcing him to spend virtually all of his time sitting inside of a mountain at the heart of time and space and being unable to really interact with the outside world much at all. This was supposedly to let him deal with mystical threats beyond those of normal superheroes, but when a threat comes along that was intended to literally reshape the nature of magic in the DCU, Cap's involvement was essentially to sit down at a table and chat with some people for one issue and do nothing else.
** [[The Cape (trope)|Captain Marvel]] was [[Put on a Bus]] and made caretaker of the Wizard's power, forcing him to spend virtually all of his time sitting inside of a mountain at the heart of time and space and being unable to really interact with the outside world much at all. This was supposedly to let him deal with mystical threats beyond those of normal superheroes, but when a threat comes along that was intended to literally reshape the nature of magic in the DCU, Cap's involvement was essentially to sit down at a table and chat with some people for one issue and do nothing else.
** [[Sidekick|Captain Marvel Jr.]] was [[Brought Down to Normal]], then underwent [[The Hero's Journey]] in an attempt to make him [[The Cape (trope)|the new Champion]] during the aforementioned ''Trials of Shazam''. The problem was the series itself was so poorly written that not even the excellent artwork could save it, making everyone doubt that this will be a true case of a [[Sidekick Graduations Stick]]. To make matters worse, the idea of the series was to make Junior, now called Shazam, a hero that only dealt with magical problems. The creator actually said "Why is someone with the powers of the gods stopping robbers?" to which this troper can only reply [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|"Because he's a HERO you idiot, and when a hero sees someone doing something evil, they DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."]]
** [[Sidekick|Captain Marvel Jr.]] was [[Brought Down to Normal]], then underwent [[Hero's Journey]] in an attempt to make him [[The Cape (trope)|the new Champion]] during the aforementioned ''Trials of Shazam''. The problem was the series itself was so poorly written that not even the excellent artwork could save it, making everyone doubt that this will be a true case of a [[Sidekick Graduations Stick]]. To make matters worse, the idea of the series was to make Junior, now called Shazam, a hero that only dealt with magical problems. The creator actually said "Why is someone with the powers of the gods stopping robbers?" to which this troper can only reply [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|"Because he's a HERO you idiot, and when a hero sees someone doing something evil, they DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."]]
*** Yeah, you can thank [[Judd Winick]] for that. Putting aside the fact that it is incredibly stupid to fundamentally change a character/superhero "team" that, by and large, hasn't been changed since they were created back when Winick's ''father'' was a child, the "justification" is even worse: it is equivalent to saying that since Superman is the strongest hero on Earth, there should be no reason for him to stop common criminals and non-powered supervillains.
*** Yeah, you can thank [[Judd Winick]] for that. Putting aside the fact that it is incredibly stupid to fundamentally change a character/superhero "team" that, by and large, hasn't been changed since they were created back when Winick's ''father'' was a child, the "justification" is even worse: it is equivalent to saying that since Superman is the strongest hero on Earth, there should be no reason for him to stop common criminals and non-powered supervillains.
** [[Distaff Counterpart|Mary Marvel]] was [[Brought Down to Normal]] as well, and was not allowed to go on [[The Hero's Journey]] that Captain Marvel Jr. did, and instead wound up seeking out [[Black Adam]], both a [[Fallen Hero]] and [[Evil Counterpart]] of Captain Marvel. <s>She convinces Adam to give her [[Black Magic|his power]], which gives her a brand new [[Evil Is Sexy|tight black costume complete with super-short skirt]]. Naturally, superpowers taken from someone evil results in Mary having a [[Face Heel Turn]] as she slowly decides that [[Evil Feels Good]], after using her powers to turn two security guards into statues. Eventually she has a [[This Is Your Brain on Evil]] realization, rejects her powers, and goes on another quest to atone, eventually getting her original powers back at slightly reduced levels. Then Darkseid shows up and offers her Black Adam's powers again, but clearly this quest has taught her that evil superpowers are bad, accepting power from evil beings is also bad, and so she'll just punch him in the face, right? Nope, instead she apparently suffers a case of [[Aesop Amnesia]], accepts the power and not only becomes evil of her own free will, but goes all out [[Drunk on the Dark Side]], complete with an even more [[Stripperiffic]] outfit.</s> ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis]]'' happened, but unlike most of the stuff that was declared [[Canon Discontinuity]], Mary still had to be evil. She was '''supposed''' to be merely possessed by a New God, but had to be reworked after ''Final Crisis'' was over. So she's now evil because of Black Adam's [[Bad Powers, Bad People]]. Some of the worst examples of [[Corrupt the Cutie]] and [[Character Derailment]]. EVER.
** [[Distaff Counterpart|Mary Marvel]] was [[Brought Down to Normal]] as well, and was not allowed to go on [[Hero's Journey]] that Captain Marvel Jr. did, and instead wound up seeking out [[Black Adam]], both a [[Fallen Hero]] and [[Evil Counterpart]] of Captain Marvel. <s>She convinces Adam to give her [[Black Magic|his power]], which gives her a brand new [[Evil Is Sexy|tight black costume complete with super-short skirt]]. Naturally, superpowers taken from someone evil results in Mary having a [[Face Heel Turn]] as she slowly decides that [[Evil Feels Good]], after using her powers to turn two security guards into statues. Eventually she has a [[This Is Your Brain on Evil]] realization, rejects her powers, and goes on another quest to atone, eventually getting her original powers back at slightly reduced levels. Then Darkseid shows up and offers her Black Adam's powers again, but clearly this quest has taught her that evil superpowers are bad, accepting power from evil beings is also bad, and so she'll just punch him in the face, right? Nope, instead she apparently suffers a case of [[Aesop Amnesia]], accepts the power and not only becomes evil of her own free will, but goes all out [[Drunk on the Dark Side]], complete with an even more [[Stripperiffic]] outfit.</s> ''[[Countdown to Final Crisis]]'' happened, but unlike most of the stuff that was declared [[Canon Discontinuity]], Mary still had to be evil. She was '''supposed''' to be merely possessed by a New God, but had to be reworked after ''Final Crisis'' was over. So she's now evil because of Black Adam's [[Bad Powers, Bad People]]. Some of the worst examples of [[Corrupt the Cutie]] and [[Character Derailment]]. EVER.
** ''JSA'' writer [[Geoff Johns]], in an effort to [[Must Make Amends]], started trying to undo the above mess, though the results are still mixed. Captain Marvel was [[Brought Down to Normal]] by Black Adam and his resurrected wife Isis, leaving him in his mortal form of 16 year old Billy Batson. Billy went to the JSA for help, and when a big fight erupted, was forced to accept Black Adam's power by way of Mary Marvel and joined [[The Dark Side]] against his will. Shazam (the wizard, not Captain Marvel Jr.) [[Unexplained Recovery|got better]] and promptly depowers EVERYONE, leaving Billy and Mary normal teenagers, but thankfully no longer evil (Mary having a [[My God, What Have I Done?]] moment) and turning Adam and Isis into stone statues. Shazam then leaves in a huff, ticked that Billy had failed in his position as the new Wizard, that Mary had become evil and that Captain Marvel Jr. was now going around using Shazam's name and using different powers. So to sum up, Captain Marvel Jr. is the only active Marvel Family member at the moment and he's barely shown anywhere at the moment. Is it any wonder fans like to pretend the last several years never happened?
** ''JSA'' writer [[Geoff Johns]], in an effort to [[Must Make Amends]], started trying to undo the above mess, though the results are still mixed. Captain Marvel was [[Brought Down to Normal]] by Black Adam and his resurrected wife Isis, leaving him in his mortal form of 16 year old Billy Batson. Billy went to the JSA for help, and when a big fight erupted, was forced to accept Black Adam's power by way of Mary Marvel and joined [[The Dark Side]] against his will. Shazam (the wizard, not Captain Marvel Jr.) [[Unexplained Recovery|got better]] and promptly depowers EVERYONE, leaving Billy and Mary normal teenagers, but thankfully no longer evil (Mary having a [[My God, What Have I Done?]] moment) and turning Adam and Isis into stone statues. Shazam then leaves in a huff, ticked that Billy had failed in his position as the new Wizard, that Mary had become evil and that Captain Marvel Jr. was now going around using Shazam's name and using different powers. So to sum up, Captain Marvel Jr. is the only active Marvel Family member at the moment and he's barely shown anywhere at the moment. Is it any wonder fans like to pretend the last several years never happened?
** The latest revamp of Captain Marvel (now known as Shazam) following the recent DC reboot is proving to be just as unpopular with fans: Billy Batson is a rude little jerk, and Shazam now wears a hoodie.
** The latest revamp of Captain Marvel (now known as Shazam) following the recent DC reboot is proving to be just as unpopular with fans: Billy Batson is a rude little jerk, and Shazam now wears a hoodie.
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== Titan Books ==
== Titan Books ==
* In an [[Inverted Trope|inversion of the trope,]] numerous ''[[Star Trek]]'' fans accept the comic "Countdown" (a prequel comic to ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'') as [[Canon]]. While it has been touted as the "official movie prequel" it should be noted that [[Word of God|Roberto Orci (one of the writers of the film)]] has stated that it is not canon, and Paramount's studio policy only takes the television series and films as canon. Reasons for this, apart from the false impression that it's canon, include explanation of Nero's backstory and motivations, and a [[Retcon]] of Data's death in the previous film ''[[Star Trek Nemesis]]''.
* In an [[Inverted Trope|inversion of the trope,]] numerous ''[[Star Trek]]'' fans accept the comic "Countdown" (a prequel comic to ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'') as [[Canon]]. While it has been touted as the "official movie prequel" it should be noted that [[Word of God|Roberto Orci (one of the writers of the film)]] has stated that it is not canon, and Paramount's studio policy only takes the television series and films as canon. Reasons for this, apart from the false impression that it's canon, include explanation of Nero's backstory and motivations, and a [[Retcon]] of Data's death in the previous film ''[[Star Trek: Nemesis]]''.


== [[Image Comics]] ==
== [[Image Comics]] ==