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** Liam, on the other hand, likes it. The fans are [[Broken Base|split down the middle]] not only with regard to BHN but with every one of their albums except the first two. When a survey was done asking 100 fans which twenty songs should appear on the "best of" compilation album, there were ''no songs'' (even obvious choices) that featured on everyone's list. No songs from ''Be Here Now'' appeared on ''Stop the Clocks'' (the aforementioned "best of" collection) anyway. Not even "Don't Go Away", the one song on the album that was universally praised by critics. (Noel considered including "'D'You Know What I Mean", but felt [[Epic Rocking|its length]] ruined the pacing)
** Liam, on the other hand, likes it. The fans are [[Broken Base|split down the middle]] not only with regard to BHN but with every one of their albums except the first two. When a survey was done asking 100 fans which twenty songs should appear on the "best of" compilation album, there were ''no songs'' (even obvious choices) that featured on everyone's list. No songs from ''Be Here Now'' appeared on ''Stop the Clocks'' (the aforementioned "best of" collection) anyway. Not even "Don't Go Away", the one song on the album that was universally praised by critics. (Noel considered including "'D'You Know What I Mean", but felt [[Epic Rocking|its length]] ruined the pacing)
** And now that the band is over, [[The Band Minus the Face|Beady Eye]] tries to forget its existence, not playing any Oasis material in concerts (unlike Noel).
** And now that the band is over, [[The Band Minus the Face|Beady Eye]] tries to forget its existence, not playing any Oasis material in concerts (unlike Noel).
* [[Autechre]] seems to have forgotten that its first release was a generic oldskool hardcore single from 1991, ''Cavity Job'', and not its first foray into [[IDM]], "The Egg" (released on the seminal 1992 Warp compilation ''Artificial Intelligence'').
** Similarly many fans of Warp Records would rather forget that it ever released straightforward [[Techno]] in its earliest years rather than IDM, or that it now focuses on more commercially-accessible indie rock.
* Irish band Altar of Plagues stated in an interview that they disregard the first EP they recorded, the "First Plague" EP. Indeed, if one goes to their [[Myspace]] page, only their debut album and the other three [[E Ps]] they recorded are listed.
== Fanon Discontinuity ==
== Fanon Discontinuity ==
* From [[Pearl Jam]]'s ''Vitalogy'': Most people stop the album after "Immortality", ignoring "Hey Foxymophandlemama, That's Me".
* From [[Pearl Jam]]'s ''Vitalogy'': Most people stop the album after "Immortality", ignoring "Hey Foxymophandlemama, That's Me".
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* Remember when [[Gamma Ray]] put out an album called ''Sigh No More''? No? Me neither. Some fans extend this to Ralf Scheepers' whole tenure and pretend they debuted with ''[[Crowning Music of Awesome|Land of the Free]]''.
* Remember when [[Gamma Ray]] put out an album called ''Sigh No More''? No? Me neither. Some fans extend this to Ralf Scheepers' whole tenure and pretend they debuted with ''[[Crowning Music of Awesome|Land of the Free]]''.
* Ask a metalhead their opinion on Suicide Silence. If you immediately aren't given a look of disgust and spat upon,ask about The Black Crown. You wont be able to wash the bile off you for weeks.
* Ask a metalhead their opinion on Suicide Silence. If you immediately aren't given a look of disgust and spat upon,ask about The Black Crown. You wont be able to wash the bile off you for weeks.
* Some say there are no [[Aerosmith]] albums after 1977.
** According to others, they went back into business due to [[Run DMC]]'s involvement. But most certainly the band never participated in the soundtrack for ''[[Armageddon]]''...
** Many fans also like to believe that Aerosmith took a five year break from 1979-1984 and certainly didn't break up and make crappy albums. Also, considering modern evidence (''[[Guitar Hero]]: Aerosmith'', anyone?), [[Canon Discontinuity|the band probably agrees]].
*** Not "Probably." Drummer Joey Kramer said about the ''Rock in a Hard Place'' "the record doesn't suck. There's some real good stuff on it. But it's not a real Aerosmith record because it's just me, Steven, and Tom - with a fill-in guitar player." That's right, it's [[In Name Only|not even an Aerosmith album anymore.]]
* "The End Is the Beginning Is the End" is the end for a lot of [[The Smashing Pumpkins]] fans. And, really, the band itself.
** At the height of the band's popularity this was true. Now of days, most fans either disown anything after 2000, just ''Zeitgeist'', or after Jimmy left the band. A lot of the fans are actually liking the new material from ''Oceania'', so who knows.
* Ask any blues fan, and they'll swear up and down that Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters never bothered to stoop so low as to record ''psychedelic rock'' albums during the late '60s.
* Depending on who you ask, [[Rush]] disbanded no later than ''Signals,'' and have been on a reunion tour since 2002.
** Some Rush fans are actually looking forward to these rumoured albums ''Vapor Trails'' and ''Snakes & Arrows''. The demos sound promising, but they REALLY need to be mixed better before being released to the public..
** Many Rush fans don't much care for their debut, save for ''Working Man'', and many more pretend that their synthesizer era (arguably ''Signals'' through ''Hold Your Fire'') didn't exist. Of course, when a band has eighteen studio albums and a nineteenth on the way, you have to expect some won't be remembered as well as others.
*** Their third album, ''Caress of Steel'', was a pretty substantial failure when it was released, but most fans seem to like it these days.
* Several classical music fans insist that only the part of Mozart's Requiem written by the composer himself before his [[Author Existence Failure]] exists, and that it was never finished by his pupil. There are even musicologists that went as far as to attempt to finish the work themselves, according to [[The Other Wiki]].
* Depending on which of most old AFI fans you are asking, they never released anything after their first three major albums, they disbanded right before joining any major label, or simply haven't released anything ever since ''Sing the Sorrow'' but may be working on something right now.
** Also, some may remind you that Davey and Jade never considered using synthetizers in their songs, let alone make a side-project containing almost no guitar track.
* Many Rainbow fans [[Funny Aneurysm Moment|mourn the day that Dio left]] the band, because they disbanded after that.
* Many [[Marilyn Manson]] fans refuse to acknowledge the group got back together, and happily ignore any albums released after their 2003-2006 hiatus (''Eat Me Drink Me'' & ''The High End of Low''. Other Manson fans, for that matter, refuse to acknowledge any album after ''Mechanical Animals'' (the previous two mentioned, plus ''Holy Wood'' and ''Golden Age of Grotesque'').
* [[Weezer]]'s first two albums, "Weezer" (the blue one) and "Pinkerton", are for the most part revered as classics. To quote one Pitchfork reviewer, these two albums are "75 minutes of near-perfect power-pop." Quite a few people would like to forget that their next six albums exist.
** Although many just pick a few singles from those albums, and forget that they were from albums.
** A subset of Weezer fans have no problem whatsoever with ''Weezer'' (the green one) and ''Maladroit'', despite both being extremely short and not as good as the first two records. The four albums after that though...
* A minority of [[Starflyer 59]] fans insist that the 2004 album ''I am the Portuguese Blues'' isn't a proper Starflyer album, for a few reasons: it's not up to the same standards as most Sf59 releases, it was a jarring departure from Sf59's sound at the time, and eight of the ten tracks were originally written for a side project that never saw the light of day.
* Depending on one's musical tastes, either [[Smash Mouth]]'s first album, ''Fush Yu Mang'', consists of "Walkin' On The Sun" and nothing else, or else their two follow-up albums don't exist. Their fourth album is pretty much disowned by everyone.
* There are [[Red Hot Chili Peppers]] fans who only acknowledge the EMI phase (pre-''Blood Sugar Sex Magik'') - and still, most (including the band) think the debut album is subpar. Some equally favor the WB period (and sometimes ''Mother's Milk'') but this is often because of the popularity of John Frusciante. Others deny that Dave Navarro was once in the band, and ''Stadium Arcadium'' is a really [[Broken Base|divisive]] album.
* [[Opeth]] is somewhat of a case here. Most people agree that the band we listen to nowadays started to exist with their third, more prog-death album ''My Arms Your Hearse''.
** [[Broken Base|But then you ask their most old-school, hardcore fans]] and their answer will most likely be the band hasn't released anything after ''Still Life''. Both sides don't seem to come to terms with this.
** A lot of people will claim ''Watershed'' was their last album and ''Heritage'' definitely does not exist, at all.
* For most of her Latin American fans, ''¿Dónde Están Los Ladrones?'' was [[Shakira]]'s last work.
** Even some of her English-speaking fans prefer to think of her solely as an incredible Colombian artist, denying the existence of ''Laundry Service'' (citing the narmy lyrics resulting from [[Lost in Translation|bizarre forced-rhyme]]), and question the [[Unnecessary Makeover|peroxide job]] in her foray into the English language market.
* Some dedicated fans say Nightwish dropped off the face of the earth when Tarja Turunen was kicked out. Even more people deny she released a solo album. Even more deny she covered Alice Cooper's "Poison".
** Others still insist Nightwish began when Anette Olzon started singing with them.
* Metal enthusiasts prefer to think that 1992's ''Countdown to Extinction'' was the last album recorded by [[Megadeth]]. ''Speed'' Metal enthusiasts try to ignore everything after 1990's ''Rust in Peace''. Come 2004's ''The System has Failed'', they didn't know what to think. ([[Win Back the Crowd|It was a return to form]], and ''United Abominations'' and ''Endgame'' are in the same position.)
** A significant portion of the Megadeth fandom that otherwise enjoy everything else tend to claim that ''Risk'' doesn't exist. However, considering [[Executive Meddling|the story behind that album]]...
** There are some of us who believe that 'Cryptic Writings' was the last 'classic' Megadeth album, ignore ''Risk'', and claim that everything afterward is a comeback album.
* [[Kamelot]] fans subvert this. While most agree that Dominion and Eternity were bad, they generally acknowledge the time before Roy Khan.
* [[Linkin Park]] fans seem to have this in spades, You have a small group of early fans who thought Meteora wasn't heavy enough. Even more fans that felt Minutes to Minute was them selling out and newer fans thinking the older stuff was too heavy. A Thousand Sun's broke the base even more, as they band remained softer but went in the opposite direction of their sell out accusation of MTM and has ATS be a [[Doing It for the Art]] Album. With many even newer fans feeling there old music is too immature and unrefined.
* Little is as entertaining as listening to two [[Faith No More]] fans argue about whether the band's first two albums, recorded with singer Chuck Mosley, should count.
** There are other fans who argue that the final two albums without Jim Martin don't count.
* Some fans of death metal band Cryptopsy do this with any album recorded without vocalist Lord Worm. Depending on the fan, they might even ignore Once Was Not, the one album recorded when Lord Worm reunited with the band, thus limiting the band's discography to the debut album (Blasphemy Made Flesh) and its follow up (None So Vile).
** Most fans do acknowledge Once Was Not and the work done with Mike DiSalvo on vocals. But ask them who Matt McGachy is or whether The Unspoken King was any good, you'll just get confused stares. Or punched in the face.
** A significant number of people believe [[The Sisters of Mercy]] broke up after Vision Thing. Not in a "We're going to ignore them," way, but genuinely believe the group broke up. Nope. They continued on past Vision Thing (1990) until 1993 when they went on hiatus for 3 years. By 1996, however, they were back together and they've never broken up since.
* Fans of the post-hardcore band Chiodos are convinced that the band will never be as successful without lead singer Craig Owens.
** A decent part of their fan base has taken this even further and agrees that Chiodos have actually ''broken up'', rather than parted ways with Owens.
** Some of us found Owens voice obnoxious but respected the musicianship of the rest of the band and are actually excited.
** This is known as the Chiodos principal. While its agreed [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aNUgUvlRs&feature=related This] is better than [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvEzJpKg4ko&feature=related This], It still pales in comparison to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XUTXPaE7qM This]
== Negative Continuity ==
== Negative Continuity ==
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* [[Autechre]] seems to have forgotten that its first release was a generic oldskool hardcore single from 1991, ''Cavity Job'', and not its first foray into [[IDM]], "The Egg" (released on the seminal 1992 Warp compilation ''Artificial Intelligence'').
** Similarly many fans of Warp Records would rather forget that it ever released straightforward [[Techno]] in its earliest years rather than IDM, or that it now focuses on more commercially-accessible indie rock.


* Less dedicated fans of [[Queen]] would probably pretend ''Hot Space'' didn't exist, if it weren't for the fact that it contains "Under Pressure," one of the band's biggest hits.
* Less dedicated fans of [[Queen]] would probably pretend ''Hot Space'' didn't exist, if it weren't for the fact that it contains "Under Pressure," one of the band's biggest hits.
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* [[Daft Punk]] have released from one to four albums depending on who you talk to. To elaborate: their first album was the French house-style ''Homework''. Their second album, however, was the electropop ''Discovery'', causing some of their house fans to disown them. The pro forma third album, ''Human After All'', is the one most often discarded for sounding rushed, repetitive and incomplete. Whether or not the live album ''Alive 2007'' counts depends on how you view the first three (though review website Pitchfork admitted that ''Alive 2007'' did help to validate the existence of ''Human After All'').
* [[Daft Punk]] have released from one to four albums depending on who you talk to. To elaborate: their first album was the French house-style ''Homework''. Their second album, however, was the electropop ''Discovery'', causing some of their house fans to disown them. The pro forma third album, ''Human After All'', is the one most often discarded for sounding rushed, repetitive and incomplete. Whether or not the live album ''Alive 2007'' counts depends on how you view the first three (though review website Pitchfork admitted that ''Alive 2007'' did help to validate the existence of ''Human After All'').
** This does not count the first live album, ''Alive 1997'', which consists of songs from ''Homework''.
** This does not count the first live album, ''Alive 1997'', which consists of songs from ''Homework''.

* Some say there are no [[Aerosmith]] albums after 1977.
** According to others, they went back into business due to [[Run DMC]]'s involvement. But most certainly the band never participated in the soundtrack for ''[[Armageddon]]''...
** Many fans also like to believe that Aerosmith took a five year break from 1979-1984 and certainly didn't break up and make crappy albums. Also, considering modern evidence (''[[Guitar Hero]]: Aerosmith'', anyone?), [[Canon Discontinuity|the band probably agrees]].
*** Not "Probably." Drummer Joey Kramer said about the ''Rock in a Hard Place'' "the record doesn't suck. There's some real good stuff on it. But it's not a real Aerosmith record because it's just me, Steven, and Tom - with a fill-in guitar player." That's right, it's [[In Name Only|not even an Aerosmith album anymore.]]
* There's some argument about when [[Barenaked Ladies]] broke up. Some say it was after ''Stunt'', some say after ''Maroon'', but almost nobody believes they stayed together after ''Everything To Everyone''—the release of multiple albums after that notwithstanding.
* There's some argument about when [[Barenaked Ladies]] broke up. Some say it was after ''Stunt'', some say after ''Maroon'', but almost nobody believes they stayed together after ''Everything To Everyone''—the release of multiple albums after that notwithstanding.

* For most of her Latin American fans, ''¿Dónde Están Los Ladrones?'' was [[Shakira]]'s last work.
** Even some of her English-speaking fans prefer to think of her solely as an incredible Colombian artist, denying the existence of ''Laundry Service'' (citing the narmy lyrics resulting from [[Lost in Translation|bizarre forced-rhyme]]), and question the [[Unnecessary Makeover|peroxide job]] in her foray into the English language market.
* Some dedicated fans say Nightwish dropped off the face of the earth when Tarja Turunen was kicked out. Even more people deny she released a solo album. Even more deny she covered Alice Cooper's "Poison".
** Others still insist Nightwish began when Anette Olzon started singing with them.
* When I was but a little troper, my mother would sing me a version of ''Puff The Magic Dragon'' that contained a final verse she herself made up, wherein little Jackie Paper's son goes on and becomes Puff's new friend after his dad grows up (with the implication that Puff will always be a friend of the Paper family). Despite all the [[Downer Ending]] evidence to the contrary, I will argue to the grave that this is how the song actually ends.
* When I was but a little troper, my mother would sing me a version of ''Puff The Magic Dragon'' that contained a final verse she herself made up, wherein little Jackie Paper's son goes on and becomes Puff's new friend after his dad grows up (with the implication that Puff will always be a friend of the Paper family). Despite all the [[Downer Ending]] evidence to the contrary, I will argue to the grave that this is how the song actually ends.
** Our mothers are in on it: Peter Yarrow (the first of Peter, Paul, and Mary) recently made a book out of Puff the Magic Dragon, where the last page features Jackie Paper, a grown man, watching from behind a tree as his daughter runs to meet Puff. Coincidentally, that was ''exactly'' how my mother described it, too!
** Our mothers are in on it: Peter Yarrow (the first of Peter, Paul, and Mary) recently made a book out of Puff the Magic Dragon, where the last page features Jackie Paper, a grown man, watching from behind a tree as his daughter runs to meet Puff. Coincidentally, that was ''exactly'' how my mother described it, too!
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* "The End Is the Beginning Is the End" is the end for a lot of [[The Smashing Pumpkins]] fans. And, really, the band itself.
** At the height of the band's popularity this was true. Now of days, most fans either disown anything after 2000, just ''Zeitgeist'', or after Jimmy left the band. A lot of the fans are actually liking the new material from ''Oceania'', so who knows.
* Ask any blues fan, and they'll swear up and down that Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters never bothered to stoop so low as to record ''psychedelic rock'' albums during the late '60s.
* Depending on who you ask, [[Rush]] disbanded no later than ''Signals,'' and have been on a reunion tour since 2002.
** Some Rush fans are actually looking forward to these rumoured albums ''Vapor Trails'' and ''Snakes & Arrows''. The demos sound promising, but they REALLY need to be mixed better before being released to the public..
** Many Rush fans don't much care for their debut, save for ''Working Man'', and many more pretend that their synthesizer era (arguably ''Signals'' through ''Hold Your Fire'') didn't exist. Of course, when a band has eighteen studio albums and a nineteenth on the way, you have to expect some won't be remembered as well as others.
*** Their third album, ''Caress of Steel'', was a pretty substantial failure when it was released, but most fans seem to like it these days.
* Several classical music fans insist that only the part of Mozart's Requiem written by the composer himself before his [[Author Existence Failure]] exists, and that it was never finished by his pupil. There are even musicologists that went as far as to attempt to finish the work themselves, according to [[The Other Wiki]].
* Depending on which of most old AFI fans you are asking, they never released anything after their first three major albums, they disbanded right before joining any major label, or simply haven't released anything ever since ''Sing the Sorrow'' but may be working on something right now.
** Also, some may remind you that Davey and Jade never considered using synthetizers in their songs, let alone make a side-project containing almost no guitar track.
* To the Chinese Cultural Department, [[Guns N' Roses]] [[Banned in China|never released Chinese Democracy]].
* To the Chinese Cultural Department, [[Guns N' Roses]] [[Banned in China|never released Chinese Democracy]].
** Many fans not situated in China would like to take a similar stance, holding that nothing was released following the ''Use Your Illusion'' albums. (And nothing ''was'' released after 1994 until 2008, except for the one-off song "Oh My God", yet another unpopular song.)
** Many fans not situated in China would like to take a similar stance, holding that nothing was released following the ''Use Your Illusion'' albums. (And nothing ''was'' released after 1994 until 2008, except for the one-off song "Oh My God", yet another unpopular song.)
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* In the late '90s, [[Garth Brooks]] recorded a CD in the role of Chris Gaines, the central character of his planned movie, ''The Lamb''. Sales were disappointing (by Brooks' standards; it still went double platinum), the reception was lukewarm, the movie was eventually canceled, and the whole Gaines project forgotten by just about everybody. Never mind that it produced his only top 40 pop hit.
* In the late '90s, [[Garth Brooks]] recorded a CD in the role of Chris Gaines, the central character of his planned movie, ''The Lamb''. Sales were disappointing (by Brooks' standards; it still went double platinum), the reception was lukewarm, the movie was eventually canceled, and the whole Gaines project forgotten by just about everybody. Never mind that it produced his only top 40 pop hit.
** Garth's sales were starting to decline as early as 1995, with the generally panned ''Fresh Horses'' which failed to produce a hit on the magnitude of "The Dance" or "Friends in Low Places". ''Sevens'' was also lukewarm, but at least had a huge hit in "Two Piña Coladas".
** Garth's sales were starting to decline as early as 1995, with the generally panned ''Fresh Horses'' which failed to produce a hit on the magnitude of "The Dance" or "Friends in Low Places". ''Sevens'' was also lukewarm, but at least had a huge hit in "Two Piña Coladas".

* Metal enthusiasts prefer to think that 1992's ''Countdown to Extinction'' was the last album recorded by [[Megadeth]]. ''Speed'' Metal enthusiasts try to ignore everything after 1990's ''Rust in Peace''. Come 2004's ''The System has Failed'', they didn't know what to think. ([[Win Back the Crowd|It was a return to form]], and ''United Abominations'' and ''Endgame'' are in the same position.)
** A significant portion of the Megadeth fandom that otherwise enjoy everything else tend to claim that ''Risk'' doesn't exist. However, considering [[Executive Meddling|the story behind that album]]...
** There are some of us who believe that 'Cryptic Writings' was the last 'classic' Megadeth album, ignore ''Risk'', and claim that everything afterward is a comeback album.
* The first two [[Music/Japan|Japan]] albums, which, depending on who you ask 'are awful should never have been released', 'have good moments' or are 'the most entertaining things the band did'. Their first album 'Adolescent Sex' is considered to be sobaditsgood on the basis that most of the lyrics are 'dancing' and 'babe', a stark contrast with their later work such as Ghosts. Their second 'Obscure Alternatives' is a transitional album and doesn't flow properly despite this. Deliberately structured for the first side to represent 'rock songs' and the second to be 'experimental', it's considered to showcase the two sides of the band a bit too blatantly.
* The first two [[Music/Japan|Japan]] albums, which, depending on who you ask 'are awful should never have been released', 'have good moments' or are 'the most entertaining things the band did'. Their first album 'Adolescent Sex' is considered to be sobaditsgood on the basis that most of the lyrics are 'dancing' and 'babe', a stark contrast with their later work such as Ghosts. Their second 'Obscure Alternatives' is a transitional album and doesn't flow properly despite this. Deliberately structured for the first side to represent 'rock songs' and the second to be 'experimental', it's considered to showcase the two sides of the band a bit too blatantly.
* Most fans of The Cars disown the New Cars period with Todd Rundgren singing. Especially after the original lineup, minus late bassist Ben Orr, reunited, toured and recorded the reunion album ''Move Like This''.
* Most fans of The Cars disown the New Cars period with Todd Rundgren singing. Especially after the original lineup, minus late bassist Ben Orr, reunited, toured and recorded the reunion album ''Move Like This''.

* [[Kamelot]] fans subvert this. While most agree that Dominion and Eternity were bad, they generally acknowledge the time before Roy Khan.
* [[Linkin Park]] fans seem to have this in spades, You have a small group of early fans who thought Meteora wasn't heavy enough. Even more fans that felt Minutes to Minute was them selling out and newer fans thinking the older stuff was too heavy. A Thousand Sun's broke the base even more, as they band remained softer but went in the opposite direction of their sell out accusation of MTM and has ATS be a [[Doing It for the Art]] Album. With many even newer fans feeling there old music is too immature and unrefined.
* Little is as entertaining as listening to two [[Faith No More]] fans argue about whether the band's first two albums, recorded with singer Chuck Mosley, should count.
** There are other fans who argue that the final two albums without Jim Martin don't count.
* Some fans of death metal band Cryptopsy do this with any album recorded without vocalist Lord Worm. Depending on the fan, they might even ignore Once Was Not, the one album recorded when Lord Worm reunited with the band, thus limiting the band's discography to the debut album (Blasphemy Made Flesh) and its follow up (None So Vile).
** Most fans do acknowledge Once Was Not and the work done with Mike DiSalvo on vocals. But ask them who Matt McGachy is or whether The Unspoken King was any good, you'll just get confused stares. Or punched in the face.
** A significant number of people believe [[The Sisters of Mercy]] broke up after Vision Thing. Not in a "We're going to ignore them," way, but genuinely believe the group broke up. Nope. They continued on past Vision Thing (1990) until 1993 when they went on hiatus for 3 years. By 1996, however, they were back together and they've never broken up since.
* Fans of the post-hardcore band Chiodos are convinced that the band will never be as successful without lead singer Craig Owens.
** A decent part of their fan base has taken this even further and agrees that Chiodos have actually ''broken up'', rather than parted ways with Owens.
** Some of us found Owens voice obnoxious but respected the musicianship of the rest of the band and are actually excited.
** This is known as the Chiodos principal. While its agreed [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76aNUgUvlRs&feature=related This] is better than [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvEzJpKg4ko&feature=related This], It still pales in comparison to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XUTXPaE7qM This]
* Subverted with [[Tori Amos]]' fanbase. Instead of refusing to acknowledge the albums that they hate, Toriphiles will bash them. (With the possible exception of ''Y Kant Tori Read'', given that it's pretty much [[Canon Discontinuity]].) Although it seems to be played straight with ''Strange Little Girls'', her covers album, even with Tori herself. On her 2009 tour, she only performed material from this album ''twice''.
* Subverted with [[Tori Amos]]' fanbase. Instead of refusing to acknowledge the albums that they hate, Toriphiles will bash them. (With the possible exception of ''Y Kant Tori Read'', given that it's pretty much [[Canon Discontinuity]].) Although it seems to be played straight with ''Strange Little Girls'', her covers album, even with Tori herself. On her 2009 tour, she only performed material from this album ''twice''.
** On her very brief 2010 tour, one SLG song made the setlists twice. With only about a dozen shows and 11 albums, many b-sides, side projects, and other material to choose from, it's not that bad a representation. SLG songs were very plentiful in 2007, even songs that had not been done in years. 2003 and 2005 tours were not completely bereft of SLG songs either.
** On her very brief 2010 tour, one SLG song made the setlists twice. With only about a dozen shows and 11 albums, many b-sides, side projects, and other material to choose from, it's not that bad a representation. SLG songs were very plentiful in 2007, even songs that had not been done in years. 2003 and 2005 tours were not completely bereft of SLG songs either.
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* Captain Beefheart's two mid-70s albums 'Unconditionally Guaranteed' and 'Bluejeans And Moonbeams' feature the avant-garde singer attempting syrupy love songs and standard blues-rock songs. Whilst they aren't really that bad, many fans completely omit them from the canon because they were so atypical of his usual style, as well as the fact that the first of the two albums caused the breakup of the 'classic' lineup of the band, and the second was recorded with session musicians. He disowned the albums later on, even saying people should take them back to the store and get their money refunded. Despite this, the albums were remastered a few years ago.
* Captain Beefheart's two mid-70s albums 'Unconditionally Guaranteed' and 'Bluejeans And Moonbeams' feature the avant-garde singer attempting syrupy love songs and standard blues-rock songs. Whilst they aren't really that bad, many fans completely omit them from the canon because they were so atypical of his usual style, as well as the fact that the first of the two albums caused the breakup of the 'classic' lineup of the band, and the second was recorded with session musicians. He disowned the albums later on, even saying people should take them back to the store and get their money refunded. Despite this, the albums were remastered a few years ago.
* Many Rainbow fans [[Funny Aneurysm Moment|mourn the day that Dio left]] the band, because they disbanded after that.
* Many [[Marilyn Manson]] fans refuse to acknowledge the group got back together, and happily ignore any albums released after their 2003-2006 hiatus (''Eat Me Drink Me'' & ''The High End of Low''. Other Manson fans, for that matter, refuse to acknowledge any album after ''Mechanical Animals'' (the previous two mentioned, plus ''Holy Wood'' and ''Golden Age of Grotesque'').
* [[Weezer]]'s first two albums, "Weezer" (the blue one) and "Pinkerton", are for the most part revered as classics. To quote one Pitchfork reviewer, these two albums are "75 minutes of near-perfect power-pop." Quite a few people would like to forget that their next six albums exist.
** Although many just pick a few singles from those albums, and forget that they were from albums.
** A subset of Weezer fans have no problem whatsoever with ''Weezer'' (the green one) and ''Maladroit'', despite both being extremely short and not as good as the first two records. The four albums after that though...
* A minority of [[Starflyer 59]] fans insist that the 2004 album ''I am the Portuguese Blues'' isn't a proper Starflyer album, for a few reasons: it's not up to the same standards as most Sf59 releases, it was a jarring departure from Sf59's sound at the time, and eight of the ten tracks were originally written for a side project that never saw the light of day.
* Depending on one's musical tastes, either [[Smash Mouth]]'s first album, ''Fush Yu Mang'', consists of "Walkin' On The Sun" and nothing else, or else their two follow-up albums don't exist. Their fourth album is pretty much disowned by everyone.



* Irish band Altar of Plagues stated in an interview that they disregard the first EP they recorded, the "First Plague" EP. Indeed, if one goes to their [[Myspace]] page, only their debut album and the other three [[E Ps]] they recorded are listed.

* There are [[Red Hot Chili Peppers]] fans who only acknowledge the EMI phase (pre-''Blood Sugar Sex Magik'') - and still, most (including the band) think the debut album is subpar. Some equally favor the WB period (and sometimes ''Mother's Milk'') but this is often because of the popularity of John Frusciante. Others deny that Dave Navarro was once in the band, and ''Stadium Arcadium'' is a really [[Broken Base|divisive]] album.

* [[Opeth]] is somewhat of a case here. Most people agree that the band we listen to nowadays started to exist with their third, more prog-death album ''My Arms Your Hearse''.
** [[Broken Base|But then you ask their most old-school, hardcore fans]] and their answer will most likely be the band hasn't released anything after ''Still Life''. Both sides don't seem to come to terms with this.
** A lot of people will claim ''Watershed'' was their last album and ''Heritage'' definitely does not exist, at all.
* The popular-within-their-own-country band [[The Tragically Hip]] has a long discography (12 studio albums and counting...) that chronicles the evolution of and changes to their sound over the years. Many fans have gotten on and off the bandwagon along the way. For instance, there are some who prefer the grittier sounds of their first three albums, though most fans would have to include their hit-filled fourth album''Fully Completely'' among the canon (sometimes even to the extent of discounting everything else). After that it gets a little blurry. The next two or three albums get softer but still pack in the hits. Some fans draw the line of continuity after ''Phantom Power'' (1998) or ''In Between Evolution'' (2004). With most of band starting to release solo work/side projects around those points, it starts becoming personal preference as to what is and is not canon.
* The popular-within-their-own-country band [[The Tragically Hip]] has a long discography (12 studio albums and counting...) that chronicles the evolution of and changes to their sound over the years. Many fans have gotten on and off the bandwagon along the way. For instance, there are some who prefer the grittier sounds of their first three albums, though most fans would have to include their hit-filled fourth album''Fully Completely'' among the canon (sometimes even to the extent of discounting everything else). After that it gets a little blurry. The next two or three albums get softer but still pack in the hits. Some fans draw the line of continuity after ''Phantom Power'' (1998) or ''In Between Evolution'' (2004). With most of band starting to release solo work/side projects around those points, it starts becoming personal preference as to what is and is not canon.
* Which of [[Led Zeppelin]]'s works can safely be considered canon? Some fans don't even give them all of LZ I-IV. The safest ground for a fanon would be those four albums and the two that followed them, effectively (fittingly?) ending with "Achilles Last Stand" from 1976's ''Presence''. The albums, reunion shows, and ''Coda''s released afterwards, however....
* Which of [[Led Zeppelin]]'s works can safely be considered canon? Some fans don't even give them all of LZ I-IV. The safest ground for a fanon would be those four albums and the two that followed them, effectively (fittingly?) ending with "Achilles Last Stand" from 1976's ''Presence''. The albums, reunion shows, and ''Coda''s released afterwards, however....