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* On Fate route, when Archer faces Berserker by himself he looses, we already know that since he used a lot of mana healing the wound that saber inflicted on him and because of that he wasn't able to use UBW (because if he was able he should be able to easly defeat him, as gil pointed the fact that berserker is weak to [[Storm of Blades]]) Then if he wasnt able to defeat it via UBW why the hell he didn't traced Berserker's Sword and used Nine Lives Works? As heaven feels shows shiro defeated berserker nine times using Nine Lives Works (well Duh) using archer's power, so if shiro was able why the hell archer wasn't able to do so?

** Because Dark Berserker is explicitly weaker than Heracles in top form, he doesn't have anyone directing him, and he's blind to boot. Berserker's tactics may be [[Attack! Attack! Attack!|fairly straightforward]] while he's under Mad Enhancement, but he's still normally lucid enough to defend himself if need be. In dark form, he was basically blind, rabid, and confused, and ran straight into Shirou's attack (and it didn't help him that he paused a split-second when he heard Ilya's voice, long enough for Shirou to finish him). Also, even if Archer had access to UBW, he would still have had a helluva time fighting Berserker straight-up. It's not that Heracles is weak against [[Storm of Blades]], it's that Gil's Gate of Babylon barrage was forcing him to shield Ilya at the same time (something Archer simply wouldn't do). And even ''then'', Gil actually won the fight by making Berserker sit there and take it with Enkidu.

*** Well... while most of the differences are pretty weird, yes, the Japanese can just as well be translated "My body is of iron, my heart of glass" and so forth since the subject is implicit and not explicit. Which makes it sound a lot closer... for the first three lines or so.

** The author, Nasu, likes to play with the difference between pronunciation and meaning, generally by using kanji that say one thing with furigana that make the pronunciation something else. He does this all throughout FSN, especially with the Noble Phantasms (which are themselves an example, being called "hougu" in Japanese, which means "treasure"). For example, Lancer's spear is written as "Barbed Spear of Certain Death" but pronounced Gae Bolg. Excalibur is something like "Golden Sword of Absolute Victory." Reality Marble has the meaning of "innate bounded field." Shirou's spells are also subject to this. He says "Trace On" no matter what he's doing but thinks of a different meaning (and therefore kanji) depending on the spell. This presumably applies to Unlimited Blade Works as well. Archer says his poem in Engrish while thinking the poem in Japanese. One is not necessarily a translation of the other, because both meanings are meant to overlap. Since this is strictly a visual sort of pun, it doesn't really carry over well into voiced adaptations.

*** I see what you mean, especially with regards kouyuu kekkai (aka Reality Marbles) like Mugen no Kensei (literally Infinite Sword Creation), but just as a pointless nitpick, I don't think that applies to the names of the actual Noble Phantasms. Excalibur is the name and pronunciation of the Noble Phantasm itself; "yakusoku sareta shouri no ken" ("Sword of Promised Victory") just looks like a title rather than a pun. Gae Bolg is probably a better example, since that name just translates to "red branch"...though it does happen to have two titles attached to it ("Spear of Impaling Barbed Death" and "Spear of Striking Death Flight," depending on how Lancer uses it).

* Heaven's Feel. Shinji tries to rape Sakura and threatens to tell Shirou about their previous * cough* liasons if she doesn't submit. She's (irrationally but understandably) terrified of the idea and winds up killing him...but why did she take a threat like that seriously at all? Sure, Shinji is clearly unhinged by this point, but surely he'd have enough survival instinct left over to realize that telling your magi brother-in-law, who ''knows'' the kind of abuse and domination you've put his lover through, that you dominated her sexually as well is...a tad unsafe.