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** "Occasionally?" .Hack//Sign could be renamed as .Hack//Radio Drama and Accompanying Panorama; no one would notice.
** "Occasionally?" .Hack//Sign could be renamed as .Hack//Radio Drama and Accompanying Panorama; no one would notice.
* Characters in ''[[Noir]]'' sometimes spoke while holding their handguns in front of their mouths.
* Characters in ''[[Noir]]'' sometimes spoke while holding their handguns in front of their mouths.
* Cleverly lampshade-hung in ''[[Ghost in The Shell Stand Alone Complex]]'' -- members of Section 9 can communicate by a cybernetic form of telepathy, which also happens to allow long stretches of dialogue without those pesky mouth movements. [[Serial Escalation|This went further in ''SAC:2'']] with a character who had a customised face made up (a pretty one); it wasn't designed for normal use, and so he could barely open and close his mouth or show expression. It's like cyber Botox.
* Cleverly lampshade-hung in ''[[Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex]]'' -- members of Section 9 can communicate by a cybernetic form of telepathy, which also happens to allow long stretches of dialogue without those pesky mouth movements. [[Serial Escalation|This went further in ''SAC:2'']] with a character who had a customised face made up (a pretty one); it wasn't designed for normal use, and so he could barely open and close his mouth or show expression. It's like cyber Botox.
** They take the whole thing [[Up to Eleven|a step further]]: when the characters know someone is trying to lip-read their conversation, they pretend to say things while having a completely different conversation in their heads.
** They take the whole thing [[Up to Eleven|a step further]]: when the characters know someone is trying to lip-read their conversation, they pretend to say things while having a completely different conversation in their heads.
* This seems to happen a lot with Kyon from ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|Haruhi Suzumiya]]'', apparently an [[The Artifact|artifact]] from the [[Light Novel|Light Novels]] in which little distinction is made between Kyon's thoughts, Kyon's words as narrator, and Kyon's spoken dialogue.
* This seems to happen a lot with Kyon from ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya]]'', apparently an [[The Artifact|artifact]] from the [[Light Novel|Light Novels]] in which little distinction is made between Kyon's thoughts, Kyon's words as narrator, and Kyon's spoken dialogue.
* The English dub of ''[[Area 88]]'' [[Lull Destruction|added brevity codes during combat that weren't present in the Japanese dub.]] This was possible because, during all the air combat sequences, pilots are wearing oxygen masks that cover their mouths.
* The English dub of ''[[Area 88]]'' [[Lull Destruction|added brevity codes during combat that weren't present in the Japanese dub.]] This was possible because, during all the air combat sequences, pilots are wearing oxygen masks that cover their mouths.
* What's that, ''[[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]]'' art team? It's time for a series of monologues? Time for close-ups on Light's magazine collection, L's food, Near's toys, Misa's Gothic junk, Mello's hands...
* What's that, ''[[Death Note]]'' art team? It's time for a series of monologues? Time for close-ups on Light's magazine collection, L's food, Near's toys, Misa's Gothic junk, Mello's hands...
* For the ''[[K-On!]]'' end credits [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7vwGBHNC8 music videos], Mio tends to hold her microphone in such way that it happens to save the animators from having to lip sync the singing.
* For the ''[[K-On!]]'' end credits [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7vwGBHNC8 music videos], Mio tends to hold her microphone in such way that it happens to save the animators from having to lip sync the singing.
* The sequences when Kaze fires the Magun in ''[[Final Fantasy Unlimited (Anime)|Final Fantasy Unlimited]].'' Although he's facing the camera, his clothes cover his mouth, allowing him to say anything without any [[Mouth Flaps]].
* The sequences when Kaze fires the Magun in ''[[Final Fantasy Unlimited]].'' Although he's facing the camera, his clothes cover his mouth, allowing him to say anything without any [[Mouth Flaps]].


== [[Film]] ==
== [[Film]] ==
* In the [[So Bad It's Good]] B-horror movie ''[[The Beast of Yucca Flats]]'', the soundtrack and dialogue was entirely dubbed in by director [[Coleman Francis]]. The few times someone speaks, their head is either, turned away from the camera, out of the shot, or so far away you can't tell what they're saying, anyway. In the words of the ''[[MST3K]]'' crew:
* In the [[So Bad It's Good]] B-horror movie ''[[The Beast of Yucca Flats]]'', the soundtrack and dialogue was entirely dubbed in by director [[Coleman Francis]]. The few times someone speaks, their head is either, turned away from the camera, out of the shot, or so far away you can't tell what they're saying, anyway. In the words of the ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' crew:
{{quote| "Coleman Francis solves the problem of sound sync!"}}
{{quote| "Coleman Francis solves the problem of sound sync!"}}
* ''[[Back to The Future]]'' Part 2 and 3 did this, when Crispin Glover didn't return for them; in 2015, his character is played by actor Jeffrey Weissman, in heavy old-age makeup and hung upside down by a ''"medical device"'', due to a ''"golfing accident"''.
* ''[[Back to The Future]]'' Part 2 and 3 did this, when Crispin Glover didn't return for them; in 2015, his character is played by actor Jeffrey Weissman, in heavy old-age makeup and hung upside down by a ''"medical device"'', due to a ''"golfing accident"''.
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* Similarly, ''[[Gladiator]]'' did this when [[Oliver Reed]] died during filming, along with lots of CGI and some screenplay changes (Proximo was supposed to be one of the "carriers" in the final scene).
* Similarly, ''[[Gladiator]]'' did this when [[Oliver Reed]] died during filming, along with lots of CGI and some screenplay changes (Proximo was supposed to be one of the "carriers" in the final scene).
* The classic final line in ''[[Casablanca]]'', "Louis I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship" was thought up by the producer and dubbed in by Humphrey Bogart after filming was completed.
* The classic final line in ''[[Casablanca]]'', "Louis I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship" was thought up by the producer and dubbed in by Humphrey Bogart after filming was completed.
* Every scene in the first ''[[Harry Potter (Film)|Harry Potter]]'' film which mentioned the title stone by name was filmed once with the actors saying "Philosopher's Stone" and once with them saying "Sorcerer's Stone". When the trio goes to confront Hagrid about the stone, they say the stone's name after his door has obscured their mouths.
* Every scene in the first ''[[Harry Potter (film)|Harry Potter]]'' film which mentioned the title stone by name was filmed once with the actors saying "Philosopher's Stone" and once with them saying "Sorcerer's Stone". When the trio goes to confront Hagrid about the stone, they say the stone's name after his door has obscured their mouths.


== [[Live Action TV]] ==
== [[Live Action TV]] ==
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** The non-talking variety happened in ''Time and the Rani''. When the Doctor regenerated from his sixth form to his seventh ([[The Nth Doctor]]), Colin Baker (the sixth Doctor) refused to film his last scene of falling to the ground and regenerating due to the unpleasant circumstances of his being let go by [[The BBC]]. Therefore, Sylvester McCoy, the seventh Doctor, was forced to don a blonde curly wig and lie face down, before turning over just as the regeneration effects conveniently obscure his facial features with a bright glowing light. The truth is it doesn't even work: if you look closely you can see that it is Sylvester McCoy under the glowy effect, and you can see the line between the wig and his head.
** The non-talking variety happened in ''Time and the Rani''. When the Doctor regenerated from his sixth form to his seventh ([[The Nth Doctor]]), Colin Baker (the sixth Doctor) refused to film his last scene of falling to the ground and regenerating due to the unpleasant circumstances of his being let go by [[The BBC]]. Therefore, Sylvester McCoy, the seventh Doctor, was forced to don a blonde curly wig and lie face down, before turning over just as the regeneration effects conveniently obscure his facial features with a bright glowing light. The truth is it doesn't even work: if you look closely you can see that it is Sylvester McCoy under the glowy effect, and you can see the line between the wig and his head.
** A similar situation led to Quinn and Colin having to awkwardly keep their heads down until they reached the portal in the fifth season premiere of ''[[Sliders]]''. Quinn's voice was also noticeably not his own, even though all he says is "Go! Go!" Then a portal accident leads to Colin's disappearance and Quinn's getting [[The Nth Doctor]] and a [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]] at once.
** A similar situation led to Quinn and Colin having to awkwardly keep their heads down until they reached the portal in the fifth season premiere of ''[[Sliders]]''. Quinn's voice was also noticeably not his own, even though all he says is "Go! Go!" Then a portal accident leads to Colin's disappearance and Quinn's getting [[The Nth Doctor]] and a [[Suspiciously Similar Substitute]] at once.
* ''[[Star Trek the Original Series (TV)|Star Trek the Original Series]]'' is infamous for ''inverting'' this. In just about every fight scene, absolutely no effort was made to hide that a stunt double was doing most of the fighting. In many cases, you can clearly see the face of Not![[William Shatner]].
* ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series|Star Trek the Original Series]]'' is infamous for ''inverting'' this. In just about every fight scene, absolutely no effort was made to hide that a stunt double was doing most of the fighting. In many cases, you can clearly see the face of Not![[William Shatner]].
** As [[SF Debris]] points out, this is at least partly because TV screens in the sixties were much smaller, had much poorer reception and resolution and you were only seeing the episode once (no VCR or DVD). It was much easier to get away with this sort of thing back then.
** As [[SF Debris]] points out, this is at least partly because TV screens in the sixties were much smaller, had much poorer reception and resolution and you were only seeing the episode once (no VCR or DVD). It was much easier to get away with this sort of thing back then.
* In the second season of ''[[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]]'' after Austin St. John, Thuy Trang, and Walter Jones were fired, Saban didn't want the transition to their replacements to be overly jarring. So they used this technique for EIGHT concurrent episodes to represent Jason, Trini, and Zack. Backs of the heads of body doubles, shots at wide angles, liberal use of [[Stock Footage]], voice doubles, silhouetted by sunset.... you name it, they did it. Granted, they had some help -- most of the action sequences had them in helmeted costumes -- but the voice doubles weren't especially convincing.
* In the second season of ''[[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]]'' after Austin St. John, Thuy Trang, and Walter Jones were fired, Saban didn't want the transition to their replacements to be overly jarring. So they used this technique for EIGHT concurrent episodes to represent Jason, Trini, and Zack. Backs of the heads of body doubles, shots at wide angles, liberal use of [[Stock Footage]], voice doubles, silhouetted by sunset.... you name it, they did it. Granted, they had some help -- most of the action sequences had them in helmeted costumes -- but the voice doubles weren't especially convincing.
* This was used in ''[[Red Dwarf (TV)|Red Dwarf]]'' when Lister's love interest Kochanski (Clare Grogan) was in a scene but had no dialogue, so "somehow it was forgotten that she would need to ''be'' there" [DVD commentary]. Her role was filled by the sound editor in a big hat.
* This was used in ''[[Red Dwarf]]'' when Lister's love interest Kochanski (Clare Grogan) was in a scene but had no dialogue, so "somehow it was forgotten that she would need to ''be'' there" [DVD commentary]. Her role was filled by the sound editor in a big hat.
* The classic back-of-the-stuntman's-head version can be seen in almost any episode of ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' -- any scene of Buffy fighting in which she is not shown face-on is almost certainly the stuntwoman who did her more acrobatic moves.
* The classic back-of-the-stuntman's-head version can be seen in almost any episode of ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' -- any scene of Buffy fighting in which she is not shown face-on is almost certainly the stuntwoman who did her more acrobatic moves.
** And even then, you could often see that the stunt people looked significantly different from the characters. The worst example would probably be when Buffy fought the crazy, murderous lunchlady. Not only did the stunt double have a much thinner build than the overweight lunchlady, but the differences between actress and stunt double causes the audience to think one of them was a man.
** And even then, you could often see that the stunt people looked significantly different from the characters. The worst example would probably be when Buffy fought the crazy, murderous lunchlady. Not only did the stunt double have a much thinner build than the overweight lunchlady, but the differences between actress and stunt double causes the audience to think one of them was a man.
* The old sitcom ''[[The Patty Duke Show]]'' had Patty Duke play a double role as "identical cousins". Whenever the two needed to interact, one was played by Ms. Duke, and the other by the back of a stand-in's head.
* The old sitcom ''[[The Patty Duke Show]]'' had Patty Duke play a double role as "identical cousins". Whenever the two needed to interact, one was played by Ms. Duke, and the other by the back of a stand-in's head.
* ''[[The Drew Carey Show]]'' played with this for its contests where a winner wasn't chosen by the time of filming, even holding a baby in front of the cast's faces to name it. Once it was even parodied when Drew looked straight at the camera with a wide open mouth shot that was dubbed over.
* ''[[The Drew Carey Show]]'' played with this for its contests where a winner wasn't chosen by the time of filming, even holding a baby in front of the cast's faces to name it. Once it was even parodied when Drew looked straight at the camera with a wide open mouth shot that was dubbed over.
* Like many lazy production techniques, parodied in ''[[Garth Marenghi's Darkplace (TV)|Garth Marenghi's Darkplace]]''. The episode "The Apes of Wrath" culminates in a long, [[Special Effects Failure]]-filled motorcycle chase with a malevolent ape-man. Afterward, Liz asks Rick to explain how the circumstances of the episode occurred, which is clearly dubbed in with Liz's mouth hidden behind a stack of books. Then, the camera is fixed on a potted plant in the corner while Rick delivers several paragraphs of rapid-fire [[Techno Babble]] explaining what was going on and how he saved the day.
* Like many lazy production techniques, parodied in ''[[Garth Marenghi's Darkplace]]''. The episode "The Apes of Wrath" culminates in a long, [[Special Effects Failure]]-filled motorcycle chase with a malevolent ape-man. Afterward, Liz asks Rick to explain how the circumstances of the episode occurred, which is clearly dubbed in with Liz's mouth hidden behind a stack of books. Then, the camera is fixed on a potted plant in the corner while Rick delivers several paragraphs of rapid-fire [[Techno Babble]] explaining what was going on and how he saved the day.


== [[Video Games]] ==
== [[Video Games]] ==
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** Subverted in the case of Homestar himself: you can see his oversized underbite moving even when he's facing away. So in the occasional scene where's ''he's'' typing at the computer, they have to animate two sets of mouths.
** Subverted in the case of Homestar himself: you can see his oversized underbite moving even when he's facing away. So in the occasional scene where's ''he's'' typing at the computer, they have to animate two sets of mouths.
* While plenty of anime use this trick a lot, it's doubly noticeable in [[The Abridged Series]] versions, in which many editors will specifically choose to use shots with no mouth visible whenever possible to avoid having to re-sync lip flaps. [[Dragon Ball Abridged|Of course, there are exceptions.]]
* While plenty of anime use this trick a lot, it's doubly noticeable in [[The Abridged Series]] versions, in which many editors will specifically choose to use shots with no mouth visible whenever possible to avoid having to re-sync lip flaps. [[Dragon Ball Abridged|Of course, there are exceptions.]]
* Parodied in one of the [[Five Second Films]]' in their first compilation. They were in a competition to produce a short film based on the words 'My eyes are killing me'. Other groups in these would normally make the film beforehand and shove the words in somewhere, but one of their short sketches had one character obviously covering his face with a cup to say the phrase where it really didn't fit.
* Parodied in one of the [[5 Second Films]]' in their first compilation. They were in a competition to produce a short film based on the words 'My eyes are killing me'. Other groups in these would normally make the film beforehand and shove the words in somewhere, but one of their short sketches had one character obviously covering his face with a cup to say the phrase where it really didn't fit.


== [[Western Animation]] ==
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* This sort of thing is quite noticeable in ''[[Star Trek the Animated Series (Animation)|Star Trek the Animated Series]]''.
* This sort of thing is quite noticeable in ''[[Star Trek: The Animated Series|Star Trek the Animated Series]]''.
** And everything else Filmation made.
** And everything else Filmation made.
* In the making-of documentary for ''[[Wallace and Gromit|The Wrong Trousers]]'', Nick Park mentions how handy it is to have shots where characters are speaking from offscreen or are holding up a newspaper in front of their face or something.
* In the making-of documentary for ''[[Wallace and Gromit|The Wrong Trousers]]'', Nick Park mentions how handy it is to have shots where characters are speaking from offscreen or are holding up a newspaper in front of their face or something.
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