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**** Original japanese version used a word that can only translate to actual physical protection. So that implies the other response is the more accurate.
**** Original japanese version used a word that can only translate to actual physical protection. So that implies the other response is the more accurate.
*** Perhaps both.
*** Perhaps both.
* What ''did'' Ramza get? The ending of the game is at first [[Rocks Fall Everyone Dies]]. Then Olan gets to see Ramza and Alma riding by at the cemetery, with nobody else around to witness. Then there are now-king Delita's last words.
* What ''did'' Ramza get? The ending of the game is at first [[Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies]]. Then Olan gets to see Ramza and Alma riding by at the cemetery, with nobody else around to witness. Then there are now-king Delita's last words.
** His sister. All of Delita's machinations to become a king (And thus have power in both it's mundane sense and over his own destiny) were created by the loss of his sister and his inability to save her; thus making him determined never to let such an event to happen to him again. While on the other hand, Ramza explictly lost everything ''but'' his sister.
** His sister. All of Delita's machinations to become a king (And thus have power in both it's mundane sense and over his own destiny) were created by the loss of his sister and his inability to save her; thus making him determined never to let such an event to happen to him again. While on the other hand, Ramza explictly lost everything ''but'' his sister.
** Also, I'd rather be ruled by Delita (Who never striked me as a bad leader, just not someone you want to employ) than the Knights Templar using the power of Lucavi to rule the world. Essentially, Ramza gets boned, but he does save the world.
** Also, I'd rather be ruled by Delita (Who never striked me as a bad leader, just not someone you want to employ) than the Knights Templar using the power of Lucavi to rule the world. Essentially, Ramza gets boned, but he does save the world.
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** Yes, but apparently it takes place after the downfall of technology and some of the other races went extinct.
** Yes, but apparently it takes place after the downfall of technology and some of the other races went extinct.
** From what I understand, FFT takes place west of where ''[[Final Fantasy XII (Video Game)|Final Fantasy XII]]'' does. One of the pages on this wiki has a link to a picture with both maps put together.
** From what I understand, FFT takes place west of where ''[[Final Fantasy XII (Video Game)|Final Fantasy XII]]'' does. One of the pages on this wiki has a link to a picture with both maps put together.
** There's still points of contention. The Ultimania Guide gives us [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ivalice-time.jpg this timeline], which gives the possibility that the past of FFXII Ivalice was concurrent with the past of FFT Ivalice... but [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ivalicemapmisconception.jpg the map that fans stitched together] supposedly contradicts the actual games. Maybe Ivalice is meant to be a land of legends, home to many tales and myths, and the histories we've seen are interpretations from distant observers. At best, Olan and Alazlam might have gotten bits of geography wrong; at worst, "Ivalice" is a different region in every different game, and the references between the various Ivalices are [[Shout Out|Shout Outs]] for fans rather than [[Continuity Nod|Continuity Nods]].
** There's still points of contention. The Ultimania Guide gives us [[wikipedia:File:Ivalice-time.jpg|this timeline]], which gives the possibility that the past of FFXII Ivalice was concurrent with the past of FFT Ivalice... but [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ivalicemapmisconception.jpg the map that fans stitched together] supposedly contradicts the actual games. Maybe Ivalice is meant to be a land of legends, home to many tales and myths, and the histories we've seen are interpretations from distant observers. At best, Olan and Alazlam might have gotten bits of geography wrong; at worst, "Ivalice" is a different region in every different game, and the references between the various Ivalices are [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] for fans rather than [[Continuity Nod|Continuity Nods]].
* How did the mourners know that Alma was dead if she and Ramza were trapped in Murond Death City? Did they just assume she was after a few months? Did Altima's final attack send them back somehow?
* How did the mourners know that Alma was dead if she and Ramza were trapped in Murond Death City? Did they just assume she was after a few months? Did Altima's final attack send them back somehow?
** Alma and Ramza never die(at least that's what's implied), but yes they just assume that since neither of them returned.
** Alma and Ramza never die(at least that's what's implied), but yes they just assume that since neither of them returned.
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* If we allow the possibility that Ramza and Alma (at least, but possibly even the rest of Ramza's troops) survived the final battle, how did they escape Mullonde at all? The portal connecting the city to the monastery was destroyed. Also, Ramza spent the game saving people, so why would he just vanish instead of saving his friend Olan/Orran from being burned at the stake?
* If we allow the possibility that Ramza and Alma (at least, but possibly even the rest of Ramza's troops) survived the final battle, how did they escape Mullonde at all? The portal connecting the city to the monastery was destroyed. Also, Ramza spent the game saving people, so why would he just vanish instead of saving his friend Olan/Orran from being burned at the stake?
** We've seen Zodiac Stones save people in the past. They revived Marach, for one thing. Also, we've seen people affected by the stones teleport. The scene with Marach also implies that the stones aren't good or evil, they simply react to the one who wields them; therefore, my theory is that the stones saved everyone in the end by teleporting them out just in time to escape the explosion.
** We've seen Zodiac Stones save people in the past. They revived Marach, for one thing. Also, we've seen people affected by the stones teleport. The scene with Marach also implies that the stones aren't good or evil, they simply react to the one who wields them; therefore, my theory is that the stones saved everyone in the end by teleporting them out just in time to escape the explosion.
** They all switched to Dragoon and jumped out. Seriously, though, if you've got 20 soldiers with you (possibly including a machinist and a robot) you can improvise some sort of escape. As to why they didn't save Olan...Well, we're not given an exact time frame for ''when'' he published his report; if it was months after Ramza and Alma fled the country, then they simply weren't around to help. There's also the fact that Ramza is branded a heretic, and if he shows his face, he's going to be hunted down.<br /><br />Honestly, I just don't like the [[Rocks Fall Everyone Dies]] ending theory because it makes Ramza's quest almost pointless. I mean, he was in it to save his sister, so then you make the ending where she--and everyone else--dies anyway? What was the point, then?
** They all switched to Dragoon and jumped out. Seriously, though, if you've got 20 soldiers with you (possibly including a machinist and a robot) you can improvise some sort of escape. As to why they didn't save Olan...Well, we're not given an exact time frame for ''when'' he published his report; if it was months after Ramza and Alma fled the country, then they simply weren't around to help. There's also the fact that Ramza is branded a heretic, and if he shows his face, he's going to be hunted down.<br /><br />Honestly, I just don't like the [[Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies]] ending theory because it makes Ramza's quest almost pointless. I mean, he was in it to save his sister, so then you make the ending where she--and everyone else--dies anyway? What was the point, then?
*** But Ramza was ''already'' a heretic that everyone was hunting down. He killed (and was charged with killing) high-ranking Church officials, people probably heard how he killed a Marquis and other nobles, and so on and so forth. Unless they all fled Ivalice for another kingdom, they ''must'' have heard about Olan's report and subsequent incarceration. While I firmly believe that everyone did escape the Dead City and lived out the rest of their lives in peace, the fact that they let Olan face his own fate alone Just Bugs Me. It's even worse in the PSP version, which shows that Agrias cares enough about Ovelia to keep in touch, but she never went to check up on her Queen after the [[Final Battle]] either.
*** But Ramza was ''already'' a heretic that everyone was hunting down. He killed (and was charged with killing) high-ranking Church officials, people probably heard how he killed a Marquis and other nobles, and so on and so forth. Unless they all fled Ivalice for another kingdom, they ''must'' have heard about Olan's report and subsequent incarceration. While I firmly believe that everyone did escape the Dead City and lived out the rest of their lives in peace, the fact that they let Olan face his own fate alone Just Bugs Me. It's even worse in the PSP version, which shows that Agrias cares enough about Ovelia to keep in touch, but she never went to check up on her Queen after the [[Final Battle]] either.
*** Yeah, he was already branded a heretic. And at the end of the game, everyone thinks he's dead, and thus nobody's hunting him any more. If he shows up to save Olan, that means everyone finds out he's still alive, and he's right back to being hunted. Plus, as was mentioned earlier, we don't have a solid time frame for when Olan was executed. If Ramza's already fled the country, then he's simply not ''there''.
*** Yeah, he was already branded a heretic. And at the end of the game, everyone thinks he's dead, and thus nobody's hunting him any more. If he shows up to save Olan, that means everyone finds out he's still alive, and he's right back to being hunted. Plus, as was mentioned earlier, we don't have a solid time frame for when Olan was executed. If Ramza's already fled the country, then he's simply not ''there''.
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