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== Cloud beat Sephiroth, spread a deadly disease around the world and got himself infected while searching the cure, he'll take tequila with that. ==

* At first I thought that this should go to WMG, until it ''really'' started to bug me. In On the Way to a Smile: [http://ffviinovels.lhyeung.net/caseoftifa/ Case of Tifa], we can read about Cloud and Tifa's relationship, also we can see how Cloud gradually becomes cold with them and starts to show his depression. At one point he [[Drowning My Sorrows|starts drinking]], Tifa is serving him and asks if she can drink with him, and he replies "I want to drink alone", Tifa pisses off and tells him that he then go to drink in his room. Now, call me paranoic, but one of the habits that can end in alcoholism (and also a sign of a secretly alcoholic person) is drinking alone, and doing it while you're depressed only makes it worse, raising the chances of it becomes a problem.<br />Call me crazy, but if Cloud is bad in the movie, who knows what would happened if he had this problem. Add to that that all his problems, in the [[Real Life]], leads people to drinking their problems, like he seems started to do. Someone in another folder talked about Cloud's emotional and mental fragility (a pretty darn good argument), and, if we asume Cloud would have another relapse and gets depressed again, he could resort to booze and maybe things would [[It Got Worse|get nastier than before Advent Children]], in the subject of Cloud's problems. For me, this almost crosses the [[Fridge Horror]] territory, if we take in count that the children and Tifa would have to see Cloud in such state, slowly deteriorating, specially Denzel, looking at his hero state. Tifa would be like this too, but as far as I read, she was angry with him when he refuses her company while drinking, and most likely wouldn't call him of that until it was too late, maybe resulting in Tifa kicking him out, and/or Cloud leaving them ''for real'' if he represented a menace to the children (we don't know if he's an aggresive drunk or something). Add to that Tifa being seriously hurted emotionally, something like this could break her too.<br />So, Yeah. Cloud's acoholic tendencies steps in [[Fridge Horror]] territory for me.

* At first I thought that this should go to WMG, until it ''really'' started to bug me. In On the Way to a Smile: [https://web.archive.org/web/20130401085015/http://ffviinovels.lhyeung.net/caseoftifa/ Case of Tifa], we can read about Cloud and Tifa's relationship, also we can see how Cloud gradually becomes cold with them and starts to show his depression. At one point he [[Drowning My Sorrows|starts drinking]], Tifa is serving him and asks if she can drink with him, and he replies "I want to drink alone", Tifa pisses off and tells him that he then go to drink in his room. Now, call me paranoic, but one of the habits that can end in alcoholism (and also a sign of a secretly alcoholic person) is drinking alone, and doing it while you're depressed only makes it worse, raising the chances of it becomes a problem.<br />Call me crazy, but if Cloud is bad in the movie, who knows what would happened if he had this problem. Add to that that all his problems, in the [[Real Life]], leads people to drinking their problems, like he seems started to do. Someone in another folder talked about Cloud's emotional and mental fragility (a pretty darn good argument), and, if we asume Cloud would have another relapse and gets depressed again, he could resort to booze and maybe things would [[It Got Worse|get nastier than before Advent Children]], in the subject of Cloud's problems. For me, this almost crosses the [[Fridge Horror]] territory, if we take in count that the children and Tifa would have to see Cloud in such state, slowly deteriorating, specially Denzel, looking at his hero state. Tifa would be like this too, but as far as I read, she was angry with him when he refuses her company while drinking, and most likely wouldn't call him of that until it was too late, maybe resulting in Tifa kicking him out, and/or Cloud leaving them ''for real'' if he represented a menace to the children (we don't know if he's an aggresive drunk or something). Add to that Tifa being seriously hurted emotionally, something like this could break her too.<br />So, Yeah. Cloud's acoholic tendencies steps in [[Fridge Horror]] territory for me.

** So... you're upset because Cloud has emotional problems, and deals with them in a bad way. This was not apparent to you at first glance?

*** Not when I saw the original movie, and I didn't read the novellas at that time; I realized when I read them and it were more apparent to me once I watched Complete (I admit that I tend to ignore things or not realize until much latter... [[Attention Deficit Ooh Shiny|Ooh, shiny!]]). And it doesn't upset me, it just... That I didn't realize about it earlier, and damn it's depressing seeing him like that (it looks like his status is contagious). The fridge horror part kicks me from the possible scenarios that could came from Cloud's problem ([[Cloudcuckoolander|I tend to let my mind fly]] with possible scenarios, and the ones I have with this in particular are [[Nightmare Fuel|not]] [[Nightmare Fuel Station Attendant|pretty]]). On the other side, my sadistic and masochistic side, I sorta like this as it shows us how bad he's at the moment, letting up grasp how much his survivor's guilt and PTSD is hitting him, also showing more of his deep, complex character and personality, and many other reasons that I'm not going to list because I'm too tired, forget about it.