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[[Continuity Lock Out|This reunion is for you]].'' }}
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'''''Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children''''' is [[The Movie]] sequel to the seventh entry in the [[Running Gag|*insert magnitude-describing]] [[Overly Long Gag|adverb here*]] popular ''[[Final Fantasy (Franchise)|Final Fantasy]]'' series.
'''''Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children''''' is [[The Movie]] sequel to the seventh entry in the [[Running Gag|*insert magnitude-describing]] [[Overly Long Gag|adverb here*]] popular ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' series.


Two years after the destruction of Meteor in ''[[Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)|Final Fantasy VII]]'', people all over the world are now infected with the deadly Lifestream-distributed disease Geostigma. In spite of this, humanity is still working to rebuild in the wake of Sephiroth's attempts at global destruction -- and those who saved the world are no exception. In the city of Edge (built from the remnants of Midgar), Cloud now lives a quiet life with Tifa, Marlene, and a sickly orphan named Denzel. To Cloud's dismay, he soon discovers that the influence of Sephiroth is far from gone…
Two years after the destruction of Meteor in ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'', people all over the world are now infected with the deadly Lifestream-distributed disease Geostigma. In spite of this, humanity is still working to rebuild in the wake of Sephiroth's attempts at global destruction -- and those who saved the world are no exception. In the city of Edge (built from the remnants of Midgar), Cloud now lives a quiet life with Tifa, Marlene, and a sickly orphan named Denzel. To Cloud's dismay, he soon discovers that the influence of Sephiroth is far from gone…


''Advent Children'' served as quite the turn-around for [[Square Enix]] (specifically, the Square half) after ''[[Final Fantasy the Spirits Within (Anime)|Final Fantasy the Spirits Within]]'' flopped -- it proved Square '''does''' have what it takes to make a movie that's at least watchable. ''Advent Children'' really is a [[Love It or Hate It]] entry in the franchise (like so many before it), but the biggest complaint for both fans and non-fans was [[Mind Screw|the hard-to-follow storyline]] (even with [[Word of God]] present to help clear things up).
''Advent Children'' served as quite the turn-around for [[Square Enix]] (specifically, the Square half) after ''[[Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within|Final Fantasy the Spirits Within]]'' flopped -- it proved Square '''does''' have what it takes to make a movie that's at least watchable. ''Advent Children'' really is a [[Love It or Hate It]] entry in the franchise (like so many before it), but the biggest complaint for both fans and non-fans was [[Mind Screw|the hard-to-follow storyline]] (even with [[Word of God]] present to help clear things up).


Limited-edition copies of the movie were bundled with a novella detailing several characters' points of view during the two-year [[Time Skip]]. The ''Advent Children Complete'' [[Blu Ray]] re-release included an OVA version of one of the novella's stories and added additional footage to the film that either helped to expand on much of the plot ([[Re Cut|which was a necessary move]]) or alter entire parts of it ([[Retcon|which wasn't.]])
Limited-edition copies of the movie were bundled with a novella detailing several characters' points of view during the two-year [[Time Skip]]. The ''Advent Children Complete'' [[Blu Ray]] re-release included an OVA version of one of the novella's stories and added additional footage to the film that either helped to expand on much of the plot ([[Re Cut|which was a necessary move]]) or alter entire parts of it ([[Retcon|which wasn't.]])
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=== This film contains examples of: ===
=== This film contains examples of: ===
* [[Absurdly Sharp Blade]]: Sephiroth, Cloud, Kadaj... Basically anyone who uses any kind of blade has one of these. Cloud's is so sharp that it can apparently cut through ''entire skyscrapers''.
* [[Absurdly Sharp Blade]]: Sephiroth, Cloud, Kadaj... Basically anyone who uses any kind of blade has one of these. Cloud's is so sharp that it can apparently cut through ''entire skyscrapers''.
* [[Adult Fear]]: The silver-haired men kidnap innocent children, effectively brainwash them and then put them in harm's way (said harm being a ''gigantic dragon''). For any good parent, the first part alone is utterly terrifying. Somehow this does not prevent them from getting a {{spoiler|[[Redemption in The Rain]] scene}} at the end of the movie.
* [[Adult Fear]]: The silver-haired men kidnap innocent children, effectively brainwash them and then put them in harm's way (said harm being a ''gigantic dragon''). For any good parent, the first part alone is utterly terrifying. Somehow this does not prevent them from getting a {{spoiler|[[Redemption in the Rain]] scene}} at the end of the movie.
* [[All There in the Manual]]:
* [[All There in the Manual]]:
** Before ''Complete'' more adequately explained the plot, the best way of comprehending the movie (as well as learning of other interesting information) was to buy the ''Reunion Files'' book, the filmic equivalent of an FF ''Ultimania'' book. Whilst it's technically only available in Japan, it's also thankfully fully bilingual, featuring both English and Japanese text.
** Before ''Complete'' more adequately explained the plot, the best way of comprehending the movie (as well as learning of other interesting information) was to buy the ''Reunion Files'' book, the filmic equivalent of an FF ''Ultimania'' book. Whilst it's technically only available in Japan, it's also thankfully fully bilingual, featuring both English and Japanese text.
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* [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass]]: Reno, possibly. {{spoiler|President Shinra turns out to be a Crouching Cripple Hidden Badass.}}
* [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass]]: Reno, possibly. {{spoiler|President Shinra turns out to be a Crouching Cripple Hidden Badass.}}
* [[Dark Messiah]]: Kadaj really channels this in the scene at the lake.
* [[Dark Messiah]]: Kadaj really channels this in the scene at the lake.
* [[Dark and Troubled Past]]: About half the characters, [[Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)|all laid out in its predecessor]].
* [[Dark and Troubled Past]]: About half the characters, [[Final Fantasy VII|all laid out in its predecessor]].
* [[Dead Person Conversation]]: {{spoiler|Cloud has one with both Aerith and Zack.}}
* [[Dead Person Conversation]]: {{spoiler|Cloud has one with both Aerith and Zack.}}
* [[Demoted to Extra]]: All the original playable characters not named Cloud, Tifa, Aerith, and Vincent. ''Especially'' Red XIII, who gets exactly one line before the end of the film.
* [[Demoted to Extra]]: All the original playable characters not named Cloud, Tifa, Aerith, and Vincent. ''Especially'' Red XIII, who gets exactly one line before the end of the film.
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* [[Fight Scene]]: It'd be more accurate to say the movie contains ''non''-[[Fight Scene|Fight Scenes]]. The original cut is 90 minutes long. The fight with Bahamut Sin starts about 45 minutes in, and the whole rest of the movie is one long fight. A good chunk of the first half is fighting too.
* [[Fight Scene]]: It'd be more accurate to say the movie contains ''non''-[[Fight Scene|Fight Scenes]]. The original cut is 90 minutes long. The fight with Bahamut Sin starts about 45 minutes in, and the whole rest of the movie is one long fight. A good chunk of the first half is fighting too.
* [[The Gunslinger]]: Yazoo and Vincent
* [[The Gunslinger]]: Yazoo and Vincent
* [[Generic Doomsday Villain]]: An unusual in-universe example. Cloud accuses Kadaj and co. of being this; stating that they don't really know ''why'' they're being antagonistic. Kadaj, however, [[Shut Up, Kirk|doesn't]] [[Talk to The Fist|care]]
* [[Generic Doomsday Villain]]: An unusual in-universe example. Cloud accuses Kadaj and co. of being this; stating that they don't really know ''why'' they're being antagonistic. Kadaj, however, [[Shut Up, Kirk|doesn't]] [[Talk to the Fist|care]]
* [[Genki Girl]]: Yuffie
* [[Genki Girl]]: Yuffie
* [[Goggles Do Nothing]]: Reno's don't seem to do anything other than to look cool and give him red rings around his eyes. Completely averted with Cloud, though--in addition to their regular purpose (keeping dirt out of his eyes) the goggles also prevent him from taking a bullet right between the eyes.
* [[Goggles Do Nothing]]: Reno's don't seem to do anything other than to look cool and give him red rings around his eyes. Completely averted with Cloud, though--in addition to their regular purpose (keeping dirt out of his eyes) the goggles also prevent him from taking a bullet right between the eyes.
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* [[Hidden in Plain Sight]]: "A ''good'' son would have known."
* [[Hidden in Plain Sight]]: "A ''good'' son would have known."
* [[Highly-Visible Ninja]]: Yuffie
* [[Highly-Visible Ninja]]: Yuffie
* [[Hijacked By Ganon]]: {{spoiler|Sephiroth hijacks Kadaj with around ten minutes left in the film.}}
* [[Hijacked by Ganon]]: {{spoiler|Sephiroth hijacks Kadaj with around ten minutes left in the film.}}
* [[Impossibly Cool Weapon]]: Kadaj's katana (which is basically two blades on one hilt), Cloud's Fusion Swords.
* [[Impossibly Cool Weapon]]: Kadaj's katana (which is basically two blades on one hilt), Cloud's Fusion Swords.
* [[I Let Gwen Stacy Die|I Let Aerith Die]]: As it was in FFVII, one of the reasons for Cloud's depression until he finally allows himself to be forgiven.
* [[I Let Gwen Stacy Die|I Let Aerith Die]]: As it was in FFVII, one of the reasons for Cloud's depression until he finally allows himself to be forgiven.
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* [[Intellectual Animal]]: Red XIII. Also Cait Sith, who is [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|a robotic Scottish cat]].
* [[Intellectual Animal]]: Red XIII. Also Cait Sith, who is [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|a robotic Scottish cat]].
* [[It Is Not Your Time]]: Cloud, after {{spoiler|being shot by Yazoo}}, has a brief encounter with {{spoiler|Aerith and Zack}} who tell him he doesn't belong with them yet.
* [[It Is Not Your Time]]: Cloud, after {{spoiler|being shot by Yazoo}}, has a brief encounter with {{spoiler|Aerith and Zack}} who tell him he doesn't belong with them yet.
* [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]]: Barret and Cid.
* [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold]]: Barret and Cid.
* [[Karma Houdini]]: ''Reno''.
* [[Karma Houdini]]: ''Reno''.
** People seem to forget that even though President Shinra ordered the Midgar plate to be dropped that Reno was the one who ''physically did the deed''. [[Just Following Orders]] is not an excuse. Does he get any kind of karmic punishment in this movie? Of course not. He's demoted to [[Plucky Comic Relief]].
** People seem to forget that even though President Shinra ordered the Midgar plate to be dropped that Reno was the one who ''physically did the deed''. [[Just Following Orders]] is not an excuse. Does he get any kind of karmic punishment in this movie? Of course not. He's demoted to [[Plucky Comic Relief]].
** We shouldn't forget, however, that Barret and AVALANCHE ''also'' responsible for terrorist actions that killed innocent people. If that can be swept under the rug, then there's really no reason Reno's actions can't be. And besides, with the whole Sephiroth and Meteor incident having transpired and the ''whole world'' needing rebuilding, a dropped plate seems like an insignificant event by comparison and retribution for it would be pointless.
** We shouldn't forget, however, that Barret and AVALANCHE ''also'' responsible for terrorist actions that killed innocent people. If that can be swept under the rug, then there's really no reason Reno's actions can't be. And besides, with the whole Sephiroth and Meteor incident having transpired and the ''whole world'' needing rebuilding, a dropped plate seems like an insignificant event by comparison and retribution for it would be pointless.
* [[Leaning On the Fourth Wall]]: Right after Tifa [[I Am Not Left-Handed|(seemingly)]] defeats Loz, the classic ''[[Final Fantasy (Franchise)|Final Fantasy]]'' victory chime [[Theme Tune Cameo|starts playing in the background]]. It turns out to be [[Sorry I Left the BGM On|the ringtone to Loz's cellphone]].
* [[Leaning on the Fourth Wall]]: Right after Tifa [[I Am Not Left-Handed|(seemingly)]] defeats Loz, the classic ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' victory chime [[Theme Tune Cameo|starts playing in the background]]. It turns out to be [[Sorry I Left the BGM On|the ringtone to Loz's cellphone]].
* [[Let Them Die Happy]]: {{spoiler|Kadaj's death.}}
* [[Let Them Die Happy]]: {{spoiler|Kadaj's death.}}
* [[Like Father, Like Son|Like Mother, Like Son]]: Invoked by Sephiroth, who states that he's more or less forgotten (or given up) on his original goal of becoming a god and has decided he's going to follow in Jenova's footsteps; flying through space draining worlds of all their life essence.
* [[Like Father, Like Son|Like Mother, Like Son]]: Invoked by Sephiroth, who states that he's more or less forgotten (or given up) on his original goal of becoming a god and has decided he's going to follow in Jenova's footsteps; flying through space draining worlds of all their life essence.
* [[Limited Special Collectors Ultimate Edition]]: The original CE of the movie was available only in a limited run in Japan, and equated to around $300. It included the ''Last Order'' OVA, a cap and t-shirt with the Fenrir symbol printed on each, a Play Arts ''FFVIIAC'' Cloud with Fenrir, the voiceover script, a special reprint of the [[Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)|original game]] and the movie itself, complete with director's commentary and a special features disc. An American equivalent would be released much later, with many of the physical extras (save for the OVA) removed. ''FFVIIAC Complete'' also somewhat qualifies, considering the approximately 20 minutes of new footage and the ''On The Way To a Smile'' OVA.
* [[Limited Special Collectors Ultimate Edition]]: The original CE of the movie was available only in a limited run in Japan, and equated to around $300. It included the ''Last Order'' OVA, a cap and t-shirt with the Fenrir symbol printed on each, a Play Arts ''FFVIIAC'' Cloud with Fenrir, the voiceover script, a special reprint of the [[Final Fantasy VII|original game]] and the movie itself, complete with director's commentary and a special features disc. An American equivalent would be released much later, with many of the physical extras (save for the OVA) removed. ''FFVIIAC Complete'' also somewhat qualifies, considering the approximately 20 minutes of new footage and the ''On The Way To a Smile'' OVA.
* [[Lip Lock]]:
* [[Lip Lock]]:
** The dub. Oh so much.
** The dub. Oh so much.
** ''"Dilly dally shilly shally"'', a nonsense phrase used in the English version to replace the Japanese "zuruzuru", an onomatopœia that mimics the sound of dragging a heavy load. Since the entire film is about Cloud letting his guilt and feelings of powerlessness weigh him down ("I feel...lighter"), it [[Makes Sense in Context|makes sense in context]]. "Dilly dally shilly shally" on the other hand....
** ''"Dilly dally shilly shally"'', a nonsense phrase used in the English version to replace the Japanese "zuruzuru", an onomatopœia that mimics the sound of dragging a heavy load. Since the entire film is about Cloud letting his guilt and feelings of powerlessness weigh him down ("I feel...lighter"), it [[Makes Sense in Context]]. "Dilly dally shilly shally" on the other hand....
** The [[Lip Lock]] also resulted in things like [http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss280/auntiebedjo519/Banana.gif this].
** The [[Lip Lock]] also resulted in things like [http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss280/auntiebedjo519/Banana.gif this].
* [[Littlest Cancer Patient]]: Denzel and the other kids battling Geostigma.
* [[Littlest Cancer Patient]]: Denzel and the other kids battling Geostigma.
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* [[Ominous Latin Chanting]]: Sephiroth's awesome theme tune.
* [[Ominous Latin Chanting]]: Sephiroth's awesome theme tune.
* [[Omnicidal Maniac]]: Sephiroth, just like his dear mother before him.
* [[Omnicidal Maniac]]: Sephiroth, just like his dear mother before him.
* [[One-Winged Angel]]: Wouldn't be ''[[Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)|Final Fantasy VII]]'' without it. {{spoiler|Kadaj becomes Sephiroth, then Sephiroth sprouts his wing at the fight's climax}}. The last one is subverted, however, in that {{spoiler|he dies immediately after it appears.}}
* [[One-Winged Angel]]: Wouldn't be ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' without it. {{spoiler|Kadaj becomes Sephiroth, then Sephiroth sprouts his wing at the fight's climax}}. The last one is subverted, however, in that {{spoiler|he dies immediately after it appears.}}
* [[The Pawn]]: The silver-haired men to Sephiroth and Jenova.
* [[The Pawn]]: The silver-haired men to Sephiroth and Jenova.
* [[Peek-a-Bangs]]: Kadaj
* [[Peek-a-Bangs]]: Kadaj
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* [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old|Really Somewhere In Their Late Teens]]: Kadaj and his brothers might look like young men, but the truth is, as {{spoiler|Sephiroth's remnants}}, they're only about two.
* [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old|Really Somewhere In Their Late Teens]]: Kadaj and his brothers might look like young men, but the truth is, as {{spoiler|Sephiroth's remnants}}, they're only about two.
* [[Recycled Soundtrack]]: Piano tracks come directly from a previous Final Fantasy VII piano album.
* [[Recycled Soundtrack]]: Piano tracks come directly from a previous Final Fantasy VII piano album.
* [[Remember the New Guy]]: If you find yourself wondering who this Denzel kid is, trust us, you're not the only one. ''Complete'' expands on his role and backstory.
* [[Remember the New Guy?]]: If you find yourself wondering who this Denzel kid is, trust us, you're not the only one. ''Complete'' expands on his role and backstory.
* [[Restart At Level One]]: See Took A Level In Badass. Initially, the party struggles against Kadaj's crew. They eventually pick up the pace later, wipe out Bahamut SIN, and kill Sephiroth all over again. This is probably signified as Cloud keeps adding more pieces to his sword.
* [[Restart At Level One]]: See Took A Level In Badass. Initially, the party struggles against Kadaj's crew. They eventually pick up the pace later, wipe out Bahamut SIN, and kill Sephiroth all over again. This is probably signified as Cloud keeps adding more pieces to his sword.
** The adding of pieces serves as a [[Shout-Out]] to the way the game had Cloud upgrading by getting meaner and meaner swords.
** The adding of pieces serves as a [[Shout-Out]] to the way the game had Cloud upgrading by getting meaner and meaner swords.
* [[The Reveal]]: In all of the promotional material for ''Advent Children'' (including the [[Play Station 3]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thsnDqQu0mQ technical demo] that remade the ''[[Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)|Final Fantasy VII]]'' opening with the new character designs), no shots of Aerith showed her whole face. Even in the actual film, the first unobscured shot of her face is {{spoiler|at the very end when her spirit turns to look back at Cloud before going away with Zack}}. Given, her face has become one of gaming's most famous ones, and [[Ruined FOREVER|if the modelers screwed it up...]]
* [[The Reveal]]: In all of the promotional material for ''Advent Children'' (including the [[Play Station 3]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thsnDqQu0mQ technical demo] that remade the ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' opening with the new character designs), no shots of Aerith showed her whole face. Even in the actual film, the first unobscured shot of her face is {{spoiler|at the very end when her spirit turns to look back at Cloud before going away with Zack}}. Given, her face has become one of gaming's most famous ones, and [[Ruined FOREVER|if the modelers screwed it up...]]
* [[Rule of Cool]]: Acknowledged by the animators as the ''only'' rule they followed in designing the fight scenes.
* [[Rule of Cool]]: Acknowledged by the animators as the ''only'' rule they followed in designing the fight scenes.
* [[Rule of Drama]]: Probably the 2nd rule that truly matters in this show after the [[Rule of Cool]], the prime example would be {{spoiler|Aerith showing up to help Cloud...inside ''[[Sphere of Destruction|Mega Flare]]''.}}
* [[Rule of Drama]]: Probably the 2nd rule that truly matters in this show after the [[Rule of Cool]], the prime example would be {{spoiler|Aerith showing up to help Cloud...inside ''[[Sphere of Destruction|Mega Flare]]''.}}
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** {{spoiler|With Cloud it's at least partially justified; the sequence in which he talks to Zack is probably taking place in his head, where time may be passing by slower. With Sephiroth, he's just really into crazy monologues and everyone seems happy to indulge him.}}
** {{spoiler|With Cloud it's at least partially justified; the sequence in which he talks to Zack is probably taking place in his head, where time may be passing by slower. With Sephiroth, he's just really into crazy monologues and everyone seems happy to indulge him.}}
*** As Sephiroth is in [[Why Don't You Just Shoot Him?]] mode while doing that, it's really no wonder nobody complains; they live longer that way.
*** As Sephiroth is in [[Why Don't You Just Shoot Him?]] mode while doing that, it's really no wonder nobody complains; they live longer that way.
* [[The End - Or Is It?]]: Sephiroth's last words seem to indicate he believes this.
* [[The End - or Is It?]]: Sephiroth's last words seem to indicate he believes this.
{{quote| ''"I will...never be a memory...."''}}
{{quote| ''"I will...never be a memory...."''}}
* [[This Is Something He's Got to Do Himself]]: Why didn't Yuffie just pass around some materia, have everyone cast one of their maxed-out spells (most of the materia was green), and wipe Kadaj and his ilk off the face of the earth? Because they've lost their edge - they've moved on and rebuilt their lives after Sephiroth's defeat, while Cloud spent all of his time brooding on [[I Let Gwen Stacy Die|his failure to save Aerith.]] Tifa infers, from her defeat at Loz's hands, that none of them are the demigod-slayers they used to be. None of them save Cloud, who has refused to let go of his grief, is still riding the wave of desperation that let the party match superhumans like Sephiroth blow-for-blow. She even says those [[Exact Words]]. Letting him finish the final fight himself not only keeps them out of his way, but enables him to find closure.
* [[This Is Something He's Got to Do Himself]]: Why didn't Yuffie just pass around some materia, have everyone cast one of their maxed-out spells (most of the materia was green), and wipe Kadaj and his ilk off the face of the earth? Because they've lost their edge - they've moved on and rebuilt their lives after Sephiroth's defeat, while Cloud spent all of his time brooding on [[I Let Gwen Stacy Die|his failure to save Aerith.]] Tifa infers, from her defeat at Loz's hands, that none of them are the demigod-slayers they used to be. None of them save Cloud, who has refused to let go of his grief, is still riding the wave of desperation that let the party match superhumans like Sephiroth blow-for-blow. She even says those [[Exact Words]]. Letting him finish the final fight himself not only keeps them out of his way, but enables him to find closure.