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{{quote|''[[We Didn't Start the Billy Joel Parodies|We didn't start the flame war]]'
''Peeps were hatin' on it 'fore I left my comment''|'''College Humor''', [http://www.collegehumor.com/video/3980096/we-didnt-start-the-flame-war "We Didn't Start the Flame War"]}}
|'''College Humor''', [http://www.collegehumor.com/video/3980096/we-didnt-start-the-flame-war "We Didn't Start the Flame War"]}}
 
Something about the anonymous nature of the internet makes people [[GIFT|behave in ways that they wouldn't when face-to-face with people]]. What starts as a minor disagreement like "how to [[Shipping|ship]] two minor characters," or "what constitutes [[Canon]] or [[Fanon]]," escalates until the users are insulting each other, flinging expletives and profanities and shouting at the top of their virtual lungs. Inevitably, someone will be [[Godwin's Law|compared to]] [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]].
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* One of the ''most offensive [[Fandom Heresy|heresies]]'' you can use towards an anime is calling a [[4Kids! Entertainment|4Kids]] [[Bowdlerise|dub]] of one good.
 
== ComicsComic Books ==
* ComicbookComic book forums have very extensive wars over what is [[Canon]].
* The incessant "[[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny|Who can beat up whom]]" arguments. [[Superman]] vs. [[Thor]]? [[Batman]] vs. [[X-Men (Comic Book)|Wolverine]]? It's all been done.
* Go to any comics related imageboard and make an original post and type in the magic words: [[Watchmen (comics)|"THEY TOOK OUT THE SQUID!"]] accompanied by the appropriate spoiler pic. The original poster will then see the resulting thread grow into a bitter, flaming hot discussion between fans fruitlessly debating on whether or not [[Zack Snyder]]'s controversial decision was a good idea. The debates just parallel the regular discussions about Ozymandias' controversial decision!
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*** Either way, you ''have'' to pick a side. Appreciation for ''all'' of the man's work is '''unthinkable''' and '''[[Fandom Heresy|blasphemous]]'''.
* ''[[Avatar (film)|Avatar]]''. Now let's all calmly walk away and move on with our lives.
* Awards. [[Academy AwardsAward]]s mostly. Even announcement of nominations sparks a flame war whether someone deserved it,or whether someone was snubbed.
* [[The Avengers (film)|The Avengers]] vs [[The Dark Knight Saga|The Dark Knight Rises]]. The possibility of liking both movies? [[Sarcasm Mode|The very idea...]]
** In fact, the mere mention of The Dark Knight, regardless of your opinion, is enough to start [[Fan Dumb]] and/or [[Hate Dumb]] tearing at each others throats. Casual comic-book movie fans could never be more embarrassed.
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* "Traditional" role-play games (generally speaking the ones with a [[Dungeon Master]]) vs. the new "Narrativist" movement. Don't dare to say that "Everybody should choose the way of playing he likes the most". You have been warned.
* In the ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' fandom, this may apply to the two missing Primarchs or to whether or not the Emperor is really all that great. Most of the newer Codexes (particularly the Blood Angels, Grey Knights, Space Marines) and anything about Matt Ward have been causing a lot of cries of "HERESY!" Necrons, surprisingly enough, less so. May the God-Emperor help you if you ever mention female Space Marines.
** In case of Matt Ward, the peak of his "popularity" was an incident remembered as "Khornate Knights" (from his Grey Knights codex). Quoth [//archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/25448626/#25450236 one /tg/ regular] (and as you can see from the start of the same thread, even other GW developers openly mocked this) -
{{quote|It was a MASSIVE shitstorm when it came out. It got to point where the mods had to come down and consolidate the wardhate threads to one sticky.
Plus you used to be unable to actually say Matt followed by the word Ward for the longest times. }}
* [[Character Alignment]]. Applies to alignment of given characters, what alignment system to use, and how to use it.
* An experiment you can do at home, but probably shouldn't: start discussing morality or Lunars on an [[Exalted]] forum. Odds are good within thirty posts everything will be on fire. Thirty posts after that someone will come and burn your house down.
* [[Dungeons & Dragons|d20]] community has little flame wars over [https://funnyjunk.com/channel/dungeons-n-drags/Can+confirm+this+will+start+fights/cbDMMpo/ whether to write stats or modifiers] as footnotes to the other in character sheets.
 
 
== Video Games ==
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* The mere ''mention'' of the [[Furry Webcomic]] ''[[Jack (webcomic)|Jack]]'' is sufficient to earn a permanent ban on some forums. It is THAT controversial.
* Similarly controversial is ''[[Dominic Deegan]]''. Mention any of the following—Stonewater, Snowsong/Supergreg, Siegfried, Klo Tark, whether Luna is a [[Mary Sue]] (or indeed ''all'' of the characters), the art, the writing, [[Scapegoat Creator|Mookie himself]]—and there will be an explosion of unrivaled proportions. Needless to say the [[Fandom]] and [[Hatedom]] are both strongly developed and don't show any sign of backing down.
* ''[[Full Frontal Nerdity]]'' encourages us to contribute what we can with [http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=212 another take] on "I'm a Mac. And I'm a PC".
 
 
== Web Original ==
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== Real Life ==
* [[wikipedia:Talk:Feces/archive1|Talking]] [[wikipedia:Talk:Feces/archive2|shit.]] Literally. These are links to a Flame War about feces on Wikipedia.
* '''Politics and religion.''' <small>'''[[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|That]]'''</small> <small>'''[[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|is]]'''</small> <small>'''[[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|all]].'''</small>{{context}}
* The ''very existence'' of atheism has lead to huge flame wars over the Internet.
** Also whether atheism qualifies as a religion or not. The very definition of Religion can spawn very long and repetitive cat fights
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** The Middle East is a flame war hotbed. And, just like the Bible above, a hotbed for ''real'' wars.
* We don't talk about any region of the world around people who either dwell in that region or people who don't like that region. The war can be easily restarted on the internet if you feel up to it.
* Democrats vs. Republicans, in ALL forms of media.{{context}}<!-- Does this mean something if you live in the USA? It means nothing to the rest of the world. -->
* Along the same lines, the TEATea Party and Occupy Wall Street. You don't even have to mention them both at the same time, although the flame war will likely explode that much faster if you do.{{context}}<!-- Does this mean something if you live in the USA? It means nothing to the rest of the world. -->
* The Su-27 [[Reporting Names|"Flanker"]] fighter plane and its derivatives.
** Nothing comes even close to the ones on the [http://f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewforum-f-22.html F-35] [[Reporting Names|"Joint Strike Fighter"]], and it's still only in testing! However opinions are becoming increasingly positive now that [[Take That|it's beginning to show what it can do]]. ''Enough said, please!''
* On some forums, discussing how tea should be prepared can lead to one of these. Heaven help you if you mention coffee being better than tea or vice versa.
* [[wikipedia:0.999 = 1|0.999... = 1]]. Just because there are multiple mathematical proofs for this equation—andequation — and the issue is patently moot—doesmoot — does not mean there are not people who will dredge the depths of [[Insane Troll Logic]] to argue about it.
* [[Edit War]] in any wiki, no exception.{{context}}
* Breastfeeding vs. formula feeding.{{context}}
* Homeschooling. Just use the word in an educator forum, and see what happens.
* Jews. Humanity is still that immature.
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* [[Big Badass Wolf|Wolves]]. There are countless rabid flame-wars of people either arguing that wolves are "beautiful" animals worthy of being protected at all costs, or that they are dangerous predators that should be exterminated. Likewise, there are people who believe wolves should be worshipped as "spirit animals" VS people who think wolves should be treated like any other animal.
** Also, never mention you find wolves to be overrated.
* Never, ever, ''ever'' [[Internet Backdraft|bring up the earthquake in Japan]] (Or Japan at all, for that matter).{{context}}<!-- Which earthquake in Japan? --> Ever since the earthquake occuredoccurred, there have been people trying to raise money for donations VS people who want you to "pray for Japan" VS people who want you to do both VS people who object to prayer in general and accuse the people in the previous group of being in the one before it VS people who accuse those of supporting Japan of being "Weeaboos who only care that their precious Anime will be gone" VS those who claim Japan deserved the earthquake VS people who compare it to the earthquakes in Chile and Haiti VS...You get the idea.
* Massive flame wars are started over whether pit bulls are horrible, bloodthirsty, unstable monsters that should be exterminated or loyal kid-friendly dogs that are twisted by their owners. There is no middle ground. Ever.
** Speaking of dogs, even something as non-chalant as the proper way to clean up dog ''poop'' is enough to start a flame war. Everyone has an opinion. '''Everyone'''.
* Abortion.{{context}}
* NEVER read the comments on political youtube videos for this reason.
* Proper fish care is bound to start flame wars ranging from the proper enclosure (IE: Goldfish bowl, tank, or pond?) to feeding to, well, everything else. Likewise, it's [[Internet Backdraft|generally not a good idea to ask/tell where you got your fish (especially if it's a big-name pet chain).]]
* There's a huge and ongoing flame war as to whether or not feeding a pet snake live food is humane. By that, we mean either it's cruel to feed a poor animal to a snake, that it's cruel to put a snake under stress by having it have to kill its food first, or that it's cruel to ''not'' let the snake eat live prey like it would in nature. Take your pick. Either way, someone is going to disagree with you.
* Environmentalism.{{context}}
* Gay/Lesbian couples wanting to adopt. Even single mothers or fathers who want to adopt. Whether or not a child should be raised by both a mother and a father or other combinations of parents.
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PgsECLKde0&feature=g-all-u This] Youtube video's comments is a reminder of why you should never let racists/prejudice kids onto the internet.