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******* Well for the sake of continuity we can always chalk the Betamax/VHS thing to be an insignificant retcon, and the age difference being due to 1) grainy footage and 2) Olivia's self-image in her recovered memories of the events was younger than her actual self at the time because of her own feelings of vulnerability: thus, she sees a three-year old in "Jacksonville" when remembering experiences from when she was very young (9) and vulnerable.

******** Olivia's memories in "LSD" seem to confirm a much earlier start to the Cortexiphan trials, back when her biological father was still alive. This isn't particularly elegant, and it seems the writers snuck this change in when they were writing "Subject 13", but it mostly works. Also, as to Olivia forgetting, the weirdness and unreliability of memory is a major theme on this show. How people can put up with all the sci-fi craziness, but not be willing to accept young children losing traumatic memories is perplexing to me.

* After the first season, [[What Happened to The Mouse|Massive Dynamics' questionable motivations and game of counter-intelligence with the FBI were completely forgotten]], causing Nina Sharp to completely lose all her teeth. (I really miss the untrustworthy, layered Nina of S1).

* After the first season, [[What Happened to The Mouse?|Massive Dynamics' questionable motivations and game of counter-intelligence with the FBI were completely forgotten]], causing Nina Sharp to completely lose all her teeth. (I really miss the untrustworthy, layered Nina of S1).

** Everyone got on the same page in season 2: protect the universe from the alternate one. Of course, [[Wild Mass Guessing|there's an argument to be made]] that Massive Dynamic's hostile attitude towards Fringe Division when it was fighting ZFT indicates they were in league. ZFT ''is'' an organisation committed to fighting the alternate universe and was first founded, in some way at least, by William Bell. Jones was a bad egg, but ZFT is a continuation of Bell and Walter's original goals.

* In the first episode, Nina Sharp has a [[Hollywood Cyborg|cybernetic arm]] that moves completely naturalistically and (as long as she wears the psuedo-skin covering) ''looks'' same. Why in the infernal blazing hells is this ''not'' a premiere product line for Massive Dynamics (which is isn't, based on Dunham's reaction)? If I were running a company that had that tech, I'd be trumpeting it to the skies. As a transhumanist, [[User:Gamer From Jump|this troper]] considers withholding something like that to be pretty much directly evil. Not to mention completely nonsensical for a ''business''.

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** [[Gordon Ecker|This troper]] thought the implication was that they used to be in a relationship, and still have feelings for eachother.

* In 2x16 ("Peter"), why didn't Walter use a metal flask.. or something that wouldn't break?

** Hindsight being 20/20, yes an unbreakable flask would have been better, but there are extra considerations with metal or plastic flasks such as degradation of materials with plastic, minerals seeping in from the metal, etc. Glass is normally used because it is functionally inert, unlike plastic or metal. Unbreakable flasks normally still can't stand up to the high temperatures glass can, and are much more expensive to boot. Walter, at the time, wasn't exactly swimming in funds or support. Also, [[Cloudcuckoolander|he's]] [[Absent Minded Professor|Walter.]] With no reason to expect a struggle, why would he go through that extra trouble?

** Hindsight being 20/20, yes an unbreakable flask would have been better, but there are extra considerations with metal or plastic flasks such as degradation of materials with plastic, minerals seeping in from the metal, etc. Glass is normally used because it is functionally inert, unlike plastic or metal. Unbreakable flasks normally still can't stand up to the high temperatures glass can, and are much more expensive to boot. Walter, at the time, wasn't exactly swimming in funds or support. Also, [[Cloudcuckoolander|he's]] [[Absent-Minded Professor|Walter.]] With no reason to expect a struggle, why would he go through that extra trouble?

* Season 1 revolves around ZFT and all of their shenanigans basically, and then Season 2 starts....and they drop off the radar. Sure, they arrested/killed/dealt with most of the ZFT guys that we saw, but the implication I got was that they were a fairly large organization, and that they'd continue to communicate with the Fringe Division and Olivia whether they liked it or not.

** Remember, DRJ was their leader, and all of their attacks were basically a temper-tantrum to get Bell to notice them. With DRJ dead and failed, they don't have any motivation, and probably just gave up.

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** Okay cool... but a virus that only starts replicating if you're pregnant?

* Olivia's William Bell accent. Were they aiming for maximum [[Narm]] or what?

** I'm still not sure if it's the epitome of [[Narm]] or the [[What Do You Mean ~~Its~~ Not Awesome|most awesome thing]] [[Narm Charm|ever shown on television.]]

** I'm still not sure if it's the epitome of [[Narm]] or the [[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?|most awesome thing]] [[Narm Charm|ever shown on television.]]

** I wouldn't be surprised if they simply decided to capitalise on the [[Narm Charm]]. It is still hard to believe that Torv could do each scene straight faced.

** Once we come up with the technology to put Leonard Nimoy's consciousness inside Anna Torv's body, then you can it unrealistic.