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* ''[[Code Geass]]'': If things look like they're going to get ''slightly'' better for Lelouch, the universe will fix this by an [[Diabolus Ex Machina|inconveniently timed bullet/confession/precision-guided meteor strike on whatever Lulu loves, etc]].
* ''[[Code Geass]]'': If things look like they're going to get ''slightly'' better for Lelouch, the universe will fix this by an [[Diabolus Ex Machina|inconveniently timed bullet/confession/precision-guided meteor strike on whatever Lulu loves, etc]].
** The biggest example is the infamous [[Wham! Episode]] where everything explodes due to the smallest mistake. {{spoiler|"For example, if I ordered you to ''kill all the Japanese...''"}} Shit hit the fan in a way that no one could predict. "[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated.]]"
** The biggest example is the infamous [[Wham! Episode]] where everything explodes due to the smallest mistake. {{spoiler|"For example, if I ordered you to ''kill all the Japanese...''"}} Shit hit the fan in a way that no one could predict. "[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated.]]"
* About 2/3rds of the way through ''[[Mai-HiME]]'', the heroine of the series even remarks "I've finally hit rock bottom" after one of her friends tries to backstab her, which causes her to lose her temper so that her veritable little sister abandons her, her younger brother remarks that he doesn't want her help anymore since he doesn't want to be a burden on her, and the [[There Can Be Only One|HiME war]] seems to be getting out of control. But, that statement being as it is a beacon for [[It Got Worse]]: {{spoiler|The next episodes see her little brother, and the guy she finally realized she had a thing for, dying in front of her, both killed by the now possessed [[Dark Magical Girl]], what-used-to-be her adopted little sister; her other good friend going off to die in a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] to take out ''her'' best friend who has gone mad; and her entire life and everyone she actually cared for pretty much being in entire ruin by the final episode. But at least they got better.}}
* About 2/3rds of the way through ''[[My-HiME]]'', the heroine of the series even remarks "I've finally hit rock bottom" after one of her friends tries to backstab her, which causes her to lose her temper so that her veritable little sister abandons her, her younger brother remarks that he doesn't want her help anymore since he doesn't want to be a burden on her, and the [[There Can Be Only One|HiME war]] seems to be getting out of control. But, that statement being as it is a beacon for [[It Got Worse]]: {{spoiler|The next episodes see her little brother, and the guy she finally realized she had a thing for, dying in front of her, both killed by the now possessed [[Dark Magical Girl]], what-used-to-be her adopted little sister; her other good friend going off to die in a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] to take out ''her'' best friend who has gone mad; and her entire life and everyone she actually cared for pretty much being in entire ruin by the final episode. But at least they got better.}}
* Can basically be used to sum up most of ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]! The Second Raid.'' A shadowy organization is working against Mithril, providing their enemies with technology to match theirs. Sousuke is not only pulled off of his assignment to guard Kaname and leave the job in the hands of someone he doesn't trust to protect her adequately, he is further commanded to never have any contact with her again. Instead, he is ordered to devote his energy to working with a [[Humongous Mecha]] that he hates because its technology is unreliable. Eventually he slips into a [[Heroic BSOD]] and simply walks away from a mission, wandering through Hong Kong, acquiring a bottle of scotch, and letting himself get picked up by a prostitute. And then [[It Gets Worse]]: {{spoiler|he finds out that his worst enemy, Gauron, is still alive and claims to have had Kaname murdered in Sousuke's absence}}.
* Can basically be used to sum up most of ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]! The Second Raid.'' A shadowy organization is working against Mithril, providing their enemies with technology to match theirs. Sousuke is not only pulled off of his assignment to guard Kaname and leave the job in the hands of someone he doesn't trust to protect her adequately, he is further commanded to never have any contact with her again. Instead, he is ordered to devote his energy to working with a [[Humongous Mecha]] that he hates because its technology is unreliable. Eventually he slips into a [[Heroic BSOD]] and simply walks away from a mission, wandering through Hong Kong, acquiring a bottle of scotch, and letting himself get picked up by a prostitute. And then [[It Gets Worse]]: {{spoiler|he finds out that his worst enemy, Gauron, is still alive and claims to have had Kaname murdered in Sousuke's absence}}.


In the light novels, it gets a "hell" of a lot worse -- {{spoiler|cue Mithril destroyed by Amalgam, Kaname kidnapped by Tessa's psychotic brother (who just happened to invent a new type of mechanical soldier to dominate the world with), Sousuke wandering the earth looking for Kaname (where the author just decides to insert a [[Canon Sue]] as a love interest *wince*), Tessa's brother ''mind raping'' Kaname in an attempt to sway her over to his side}}. Not fun.
In the light novels, it gets a "hell" of a lot worse -- {{spoiler|cue Mithril destroyed by Amalgam, Kaname kidnapped by Tessa's psychotic brother (who just happened to invent a new type of mechanical soldier to dominate the world with), Sousuke wandering the earth looking for Kaname (where the author just decides to insert a [[Canon Sue]] as a love interest *wince*), Tessa's brother ''mind raping'' Kaname in an attempt to sway her over to his side}}. Not fun.
* Both the anime ''and'' the manga of ''[[Chrono Crusade]]'' use this. ''Often''. Most of the examples are far too complicated to list here, but here's a few cliff note examples, avoiding spoilers as much as possible: After the heroes are attacked on a train, they seem to defeat their enemy—only to put themselves into an even more dangerous situation. They win the fight, but inadvertently give information to the [[Big Bad]] in the process. Another scene has the heroes finally reaching one of their goals, when they're attacked by the [[Big Bad]]. Chrono attempts to protect Rosette, but gets badly wounded in the process. In the manga, his fear of [[Berserk Button|Rosette getting hurt]] causes him to fly into an [[Unstoppable Rage]] {{spoiler|and unseal his powers, which drains Rosette's lifespan drastically as he uses them. He manages to stop himself, only to be stabbed by Aion, who then takes off with one of the members of their Nakama.}} In the anime, Chrono recovers to fight Joshua--{{spoiler|removing his horns, but also "stopping" his time in the process. Aion then kidnaps Rosette and abandons Joshua and the other apostles for dead.}} And that's not even talking about how either the anime or the manga ''ends''...
* Both the anime ''and'' the manga of ''[[Chrono Crusade]]'' use this. ''Often''. Most of the examples are far too complicated to list here, but here's a few cliff note examples, avoiding spoilers as much as possible: After the heroes are attacked on a train, they seem to defeat their enemy—only to put themselves into an even more dangerous situation. They win the fight, but inadvertently give information to the [[Big Bad]] in the process. Another scene has the heroes finally reaching one of their goals, when they're attacked by the [[Big Bad]]. Chrono attempts to protect Rosette, but gets badly wounded in the process. In the manga, his fear of [[Berserk Button|Rosette getting hurt]] causes him to fly into an [[Unstoppable Rage]] {{spoiler|and unseal his powers, which drains Rosette's lifespan drastically as he uses them. He manages to stop himself, only to be stabbed by Aion, who then takes off with one of the members of their Nakama.}} In the anime, Chrono recovers to fight Joshua--{{spoiler|removing his horns, but also "stopping" his time in the process. Aion then kidnaps Rosette and abandons Joshua and the other apostles for dead.}} And that's not even talking about how either the anime or the manga ''ends''...
* The first [[Twelve-Episode Anime|dozen or so]] episodes of ''[[Now and Then Here and There]]''. ''It Got Worse: The Series''
* The first [[Twelve-Episode Anime|dozen or so]] episodes of ''[[Now and Then, Here and There]]''. ''It Got Worse: The Series''
* In ''[[Excel Saga (manga)|Excel Saga]]'', Excel's life worsens as the series progresses. Excel goes from living alone and trying to pay the rent on a crapppy apartment, to sharing the apartment with two other people, to trying to escape a prison and an island, to losing her memory (though her life was actually pretty nice then, but Excel would not see it that way), to regaining her memory and living under a bridge.
* In ''[[Excel Saga (manga)|Excel Saga]]'', Excel's life worsens as the series progresses. Excel goes from living alone and trying to pay the rent on a crapppy apartment, to sharing the apartment with two other people, to trying to escape a prison and an island, to losing her memory (though her life was actually pretty nice then, but Excel would not see it that way), to regaining her memory and living under a bridge.
** In [[Excel Saga (anime)|the anime]], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IciH_Jgj9lw the story of Pedro], the cursed migrant worker, is a comedic version of this. Oddly enough, it's also the only continuity the show has until almost the very end.
** In [[Excel Saga (anime)|the anime]], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IciH_Jgj9lw the story of Pedro], the cursed migrant worker, is a comedic version of this. Oddly enough, it's also the only continuity the show has until almost the very end.
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** Junji Ito in general. ''Hell'O Dollies'' is a good example: it's already bad enough that children are turning into creepy wooden dolls, but somehow he takes it even beyond.
** Junji Ito in general. ''Hell'O Dollies'' is a good example: it's already bad enough that children are turning into creepy wooden dolls, but somehow he takes it even beyond.
* ''[[Revolutionary Girl Utena]]'' starts out a fun, weird saga of a crossdressing girl in an odd school caught up in odder after-school activities. We're introduced to the main cast and their personal problems. There's humor involving funny animals, body-switching curry, and the cas hangs out and watches the weird happen with confused, bemused indifference. Then Touga, a member of the group of not-quite-friends, breaks down everything the main character was fighting for by pretending to be her prince. Then the Black Rose Saga starts, and the sex, obsessions, emotional craziness, and horror elements begin. The bubbly sidekick tries to kill the main character. Then the Akio arc starts, and it all gets five billion times WORSE. Heaven help any kid that tries to watch for the sword duels and nutty sense of humor.
* ''[[Revolutionary Girl Utena]]'' starts out a fun, weird saga of a crossdressing girl in an odd school caught up in odder after-school activities. We're introduced to the main cast and their personal problems. There's humor involving funny animals, body-switching curry, and the cas hangs out and watches the weird happen with confused, bemused indifference. Then Touga, a member of the group of not-quite-friends, breaks down everything the main character was fighting for by pretending to be her prince. Then the Black Rose Saga starts, and the sex, obsessions, emotional craziness, and horror elements begin. The bubbly sidekick tries to kill the main character. Then the Akio arc starts, and it all gets five billion times WORSE. Heaven help any kid that tries to watch for the sword duels and nutty sense of humor.
* ''[[Twentieth Century Boys]]'' ends its first two arcs with things getting incredibly worse. The first arc {{spoiler|has Kenji and Fukubei seemingly die stopping [[Big Bad|Friend's]] [[Humongous Mecha]], Friend take credit for its destruction and become the beloved savior of Japan}} while the second {{spoiler|ends with an even more sadistic man [[Legacy Character|taking over Friend's identity]], killing a ridiculous amount of the world's population and becoming the president of the world.}} Both instances are also [[Hope Spot]]s.
* ''[[20th Century Boys]]'' ends its first two arcs with things getting incredibly worse. The first arc {{spoiler|has Kenji and Fukubei seemingly die stopping [[Big Bad|Friend's]] [[Humongous Mecha]], Friend take credit for its destruction and become the beloved savior of Japan}} while the second {{spoiler|ends with an even more sadistic man [[Legacy Character|taking over Friend's identity]], killing a ridiculous amount of the world's population and becoming the president of the world.}} Both instances are also [[Hope Spot]]s.
* While it's normally more optimistic, the point of the recent flashbacks in ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' seem to be to show exactly how everything went to hell for Negi's parents immediately after the war ended. (And judging by [[Dark and Troubled Past|Negi's past]], things didn't really get better for the Springfield family for a while.)
* While it's normally more optimistic, the point of the recent flashbacks in ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' seem to be to show exactly how everything went to hell for Negi's parents immediately after the war ended. (And judging by [[Dark and Troubled Past|Negi's past]], things didn't really get better for the Springfield family for a while.)
* The manga ''[[MPD Psycho]]'' by Eiji Otsuka uses this as a primary plot device, with its body-hopping serial killers and web of conspiracies. The live-action TV adaptation actually ''tones this down'' a bit; which is rather unexpected, since it was adapted by [[Takashi Miike]].
* The manga ''[[MPD Psycho]]'' by Eiji Otsuka uses this as a primary plot device, with its body-hopping serial killers and web of conspiracies. The live-action TV adaptation actually ''tones this down'' a bit; which is rather unexpected, since it was adapted by [[Takashi Miike]].
* In ''[[Naruto]]'' this occurs during {{spoiler|Pain's invasion of Konoha. Having already killed Jiraiya and coerced Sasuke into joining him, he then runs amuck, tearing souls out of people, launching [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill|massive amounts of ordinance at homes and orphanages]], summoning monstrosities, and [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|disturbing the peace]]. He confronts Tsunade and proceeds to rip the soul out of Shizune, gaining the hidden location of Naruto. The village is in ruins, shinobi are dead, and the secret they tried to protect is lost to the [[Big Bad]]. And then Pain nukes Konoha}}.
* In ''[[Naruto]]'' this occurs during {{spoiler|Pain's invasion of Konoha. Having already killed Jiraiya and coerced Sasuke into joining him, he then runs amuck, tearing souls out of people, launching [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill|massive amounts of ordinance at homes and orphanages]], summoning monstrosities, and [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|disturbing the peace]]. He confronts Tsunade and proceeds to rip the soul out of Shizune, gaining the hidden location of Naruto. The village is in ruins, shinobi are dead, and the secret they tried to protect is lost to the [[Big Bad]]. And then Pain nukes Konoha}}.
** Naruto returns, far more powerful than ever, having removed the flaw from his [[Dangerous Forbidden Technique|Rasen-Shuriken]] and gained other [[Took a Level In Badass|levels in badass]] to boot. But it's not enough. He destroys some of Pain's lesser bodies, but in the end Pain beats him down, stabs one of his potential [[Love Interest]]s through the stomach right in front of him. This ain't over yet; it gets worse.
** Naruto returns, far more powerful than ever, having removed the flaw from his [[Dangerous Forbidden Technique|Rasen-Shuriken]] and gained other [[Took a Level in Badass|levels in badass]] to boot. But it's not enough. He destroys some of Pain's lesser bodies, but in the end Pain beats him down, stabs one of his potential [[Love Interest]]s through the stomach right in front of him. This ain't over yet; it gets worse.
*** Out of unimaginable anger and despair, {{spoiler|Naruto's never-before-seen [[Number of the Beast|6-tailed]] [[Berserk Mode|fox form]] appears. Pain gets a massive beating ([[No One Should Survive That|even more]] [[Megaton Punch|massive]] in the anime!), but he manages to trap him in a planetary object. Oh, wait, things get horrible from here; Naruto bursts out, in the 8-tailed state; however, Pain claims he can trap him in an even bigger ball of dirt. It goes from scary to [[Darkest Hour|tragic]] when Naruto ''willingly'' starts to tear off the 9-tailed Demon Fox's seal, which would kill Naruto and unleash a far greater threat than Pain.}}
*** Out of unimaginable anger and despair, {{spoiler|Naruto's never-before-seen [[Number of the Beast|6-tailed]] [[Berserk Mode|fox form]] appears. Pain gets a massive beating ([[No One Should Survive That|even more]] [[Megaton Punch|massive]] in the anime!), but he manages to trap him in a planetary object. Oh, wait, things get horrible from here; Naruto bursts out, in the 8-tailed state; however, Pain claims he can trap him in an even bigger ball of dirt. It goes from scary to [[Darkest Hour|tragic]] when Naruto ''willingly'' starts to tear off the 9-tailed Demon Fox's seal, which would kill Naruto and unleash a far greater threat than Pain.}}
*** Believe it or not, {{spoiler|things get better.}}
*** Believe it or not, {{spoiler|things get better.}}
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