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** Could be jossed, but not necessarily. It's a fair explanation for how she knew just who Marcus was as soon as they met; she might have simply chose not to tell him for whatever reason.
** Could be jossed, but not necessarily. It's a fair explanation for how she knew just who Marcus was as soon as they met; she might have simply chose not to tell him for whatever reason.
** Jossed-the wiki says Marcus is the son of Dr. Elain Fenix and Adam, of course. Maybe Myrrah's his sister, or a clone of some sort created with Adam Fenix's DNA. There's also a WMG below about Myrrah being Ruth.
** Jossed-the wiki says Marcus is the son of Dr. Elain Fenix and Adam, of course. Maybe Myrrah's his sister, or a clone of some sort created with Adam Fenix's DNA. There's also a WMG below about Myrrah being Ruth.
*** I don't know, I think that when Elain went underground to look for Imulsion crystals she...changed. I can easily see her changing her name and appearance to the point where Marcus couldn't recognized her, not to mention he hasn't seen her in decades. [[Starcraft|I mean it's not the first time a woman that the main character knows was turned into the leader of another species.]]
*** I don't know, I think that when Elain went underground to look for Imulsion crystals she...changed. I can easily see her changing her name and appearance to the point where Marcus couldn't recognized her, not to mention he hasn't seen her in decades. [[StarCraft|I mean it's not the first time a woman that the main character knows was turned into the leader of another species.]]
*** She changed into a dead body. Which was found by Marcus and Adam. Cliffy B has even said it would be very stupid and cliche if Myrrah was Marcus' mom.
*** She changed into a dead body. Which was found by Marcus and Adam. Cliffy B has even said it would be very stupid and cliche if Myrrah was Marcus' mom.


== Myrrah is [[Starcraft|Sarah Kerrigan]], and The Locust are the humanoid evolution of the Zerg after being repressed for centuries and forgotten ==
== Myrrah is [[StarCraft|Sarah Kerrigan]], and The Locust are the humanoid evolution of the Zerg after being repressed for centuries and forgotten ==
I mean, look at their similarities in both tactics and social structure. The Zerg, the hive minded scourge of the universe, defeated the Terrans and the Protoss, but not before taking critical losses and being forced to hibernate underground for millennia, evolving into humanoid creatures and losing their spacefaring abilities. Eventually, the surviving humans came to Sera, and settled there, eventually forgetting a time that they weren't on Sera, and, eventually, awakening the Zerg, which promptly declare their evolved form the Locust and fight the battle for dominance once again.
I mean, look at their similarities in both tactics and social structure. The Zerg, the hive minded scourge of the universe, defeated the Terrans and the Protoss, but not before taking critical losses and being forced to hibernate underground for millennia, evolving into humanoid creatures and losing their spacefaring abilities. Eventually, the surviving humans came to Sera, and settled there, eventually forgetting a time that they weren't on Sera, and, eventually, awakening the Zerg, which promptly declare their evolved form the Locust and fight the battle for dominance once again.
* Meanwhile, the Sires were created by [[Enigmatic Minion|Samir Duran]], still up to his old tricks after millennia of hiding.
* Meanwhile, the Sires were created by [[Enigmatic Minion|Samir Duran]], still up to his old tricks after millennia of hiding.
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== Sera is a long lost Earth colony ==
== Sera is a long lost Earth colony ==
Earth started to send droves of colony ships out in space to repopulate other planets. But the sera colony got lost in space and landed on planet sera. Thus rebuilding their human history and civilization. The descendants probably forgot about this past incident decades or centuries later. Likely The COG's (and other past governments) know of this, And is [[Ancient Conspiracy|hiding their history from the public]] because they don't want it undermining their governments. Or at least if not ''A'' long lost earth colony, it's ''THE'' earth colony. The ship/s they came to sera with are probably damaged or are considered a [[Lost Technology]]. possibly lost through the centuries they been on sera.
Earth started to send droves of colony ships out in space to repopulate other planets. But the sera colony got lost in space and landed on planet sera. Thus rebuilding their human history and civilization. The descendants probably forgot about this past incident decades or centuries later. Likely The COG's (and other past governments) know of this, And is [[Ancient Conspiracy|hiding their history from the public]] because they don't want it undermining their governments. Or at least if not ''A'' long lost earth colony, it's ''THE'' earth colony. The ship/s they came to sera with are probably damaged or are considered a [[Lost Technology]]. possibly lost through the centuries they been on sera.
** Alternatively it's a sort of castaway prison/detention planet. Where the castaways were sent there centuries ago and they formed their own governments/civilization. Eventually forgetting or not teaching the younger generation on how humans came to sera, either out of spite or lost history.
** Alternatively it's a sort of castaway prison/detention planet. Where the castaways were sent there centuries ago and they formed their own governments/civilization. Eventually forgetting or not teaching the younger generation on how humans came to sera, either out of spite or lost history.


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== The humans of Sera are in some way responsible for creating the Locust. ==
== The humans of Sera are in some way responsible for creating the Locust. ==
This is greatly implied but never explicitly confirmed during Gears of War 2. The New Hope Research Facility is filled with stasis tanks full of weird Locust like hybrids. The fact that when the project was shut down, the subjects of the research were taken to Mount Kandar (under which the Locust palace just happens to be) seems to be too much of a coincidence. The only thing buggering up this theory is that it seems so unlikely that the Locust could have built up such a large civilisation so quickly (although it is not specified as to when the New Hope project was finished) or the fact that there are even more ancient ruins under Sera.
This is greatly implied but never explicitly confirmed during Gears of War 2. The New Hope Research Facility is filled with stasis tanks full of weird Locust like hybrids. The fact that when the project was shut down, the subjects of the research were taken to Mount Kandar (under which the Locust palace just happens to be) seems to be too much of a coincidence. The only thing buggering up this theory is that it seems so unlikely that the Locust could have built up such a large civilisation so quickly (although it is not specified as to when the New Hope project was finished) or the fact that there are even more ancient ruins under Sera.
* In order to create a human-Locust hybrid, wouldn't the Locust have to have existed already?
* In order to create a human-Locust hybrid, wouldn't the Locust have to have existed already?
* Part-way transformed Locust men would be more accurate.
* Part-way transformed Locust men would be more accurate.
* I agree and am willing to bet that The Locust were some sort of secret weapon created to be used in the Pendulum Wars. That would tie-in with all of Myrrah's babbling about how humans are responsible. That is also why The Locust started taking prisoners in ''2'', which surprised Delta. They were creating more soldiers.
* I agree and am willing to bet that The Locust were some sort of secret weapon created to be used in the Pendulum Wars. That would tie-in with all of Myrrah's babbling about how humans are responsible. That is also why The Locust started taking prisoners in ''2'', which surprised Delta. They were creating more soldiers.
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All you really see is him falling to the ground at the end of the Hydra battle. He doesn't get impaled on any sharp rocks or anything. Knowing how resilent Locust can be...it's possible he'll be back for ''Gears 3''.
All you really see is him falling to the ground at the end of the Hydra battle. He doesn't get impaled on any sharp rocks or anything. Knowing how resilent Locust can be...it's possible he'll be back for ''Gears 3''.
* Here's hoping he'll actually be able to put up a fight or be on our side.
* Here's hoping he'll actually be able to put up a fight or be on our side.
* Given the [[Deader Than Dead]] treatment used for most deaths in the series, this is a real possibility.
* Given the [[Deader Than Dead]] treatment used for most deaths in the series, this is a real possibility.
* Combining this with another guess above, he will be around to compete with the new [[Big Bad]] lambent RAAM in Gears 3.
* Combining this with another guess above, he will be around to compete with the new [[Big Bad]] lambent RAAM in Gears 3.


== Immulsion is really [[The Lifestream]]. ==
== Immulsion is really [[The Lifestream]]. ==
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== The locust are humans! ==
== The locust are humans! ==
Think about it, Niles from the secret facility in [[Go W 2]] talks about how human culture is "corrupted", he is likely refering to Sera's warlike past, and how constant battle is killing the planet. So his team tried to mutate humanity in to a hive-like species to unite them and save their society. The sires where the first experiment gone wrong. At some point there may have been an uprising of some sorts which led to the test subjects retreating to the underground. The locust are fighting the war for revenge after what they had to go through in the name of science.
Think about it, Niles from the secret facility in [[Go W 2]] talks about how human culture is "corrupted", he is likely refering to Sera's warlike past, and how constant battle is killing the planet. So his team tried to mutate humanity in to a hive-like species to unite them and save their society. The sires where the first experiment gone wrong. At some point there may have been an uprising of some sorts which led to the test subjects retreating to the underground. The locust are fighting the war for revenge after what they had to go through in the name of science.


== The Locust Queen is a [[Abusive Precursors|Precursor]] ==
== The Locust Queen is a [[Abusive Precursors|Precursor]] ==
She doesn't much look like your run-of-the-mill locust. Gears 2 seems to imply that the locust were genetic experiments on humans, but those underground ruins are much older than a few decades. Perhaps Myrrah is [[The Last of His Kind|the last of her kind]] and she blames the humans for the death of her race. In multiplayer, she seems to refer to the locust as a separate race that she is using for her own goals.
She doesn't much look like your run-of-the-mill locust. Gears 2 seems to imply that the locust were genetic experiments on humans, but those underground ruins are much older than a few decades. Perhaps Myrrah is [[The Last of His Kind|the last of her kind]] and she blames the humans for the death of her race. In multiplayer, she seems to refer to the locust as a separate race that she is using for her own goals.


== RAAM was [[The Starscream]] ==
== RAAM was [[The Starscream]] ==
This ties in with another theory above. He was supposed to kill Adam Fenix, but he obviously did not. He takes a dive into an immulson pool, and now there is a new lambent Locust faction out to take over the joint. I think he had some bad blood with the queen for a long while now. In fact, he may be intentionally holding the surviving Kryll back, so the humans can have enough room to launch operations and hurt the main locust horde more.
This ties in with another theory above. He was supposed to kill Adam Fenix, but he obviously did not. He takes a dive into an immulson pool, and now there is a new lambent Locust faction out to take over the joint. I think he had some bad blood with the queen for a long while now. In fact, he may be intentionally holding the surviving Kryll back, so the humans can have enough room to launch operations and hurt the main locust horde more.


== Dom has a Son/Daughter ==
== Dom has a Son/Daughter ==
Maria was pregnant when her and Dom got separated, and Dom will meet his son or daughter (or twins?) later on in the series.
Maria was pregnant when her and Dom got separated, and Dom will meet his son or daughter (or twins?) later on in the series.
* I seem to recall some promotional material from Gears 1 that said Dom lost both his wife and a son on E-day, so this is possible.
* I seem to recall some promotional material from Gears 1 that said Dom lost both his wife and a son on E-day, so this is possible.
** My Dom action figure's packaging says he lost ''two'' sons.
** My Dom action figure's packaging says he lost ''two'' sons.
*** And the novels say he lost a son and a daughter (Benedicto and Sylvia). Jesus, Dom. Keep track of your damn kids!
*** And the novels say he lost a son and a daughter (Benedicto and Sylvia). Jesus, Dom. Keep track of your damn kids!
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* You Know, combined with some of the Above ideas, that could have some very Interesting Consequences...
* You Know, combined with some of the Above ideas, that could have some very Interesting Consequences...


== Gears of War takes place in [[Warhammer 40000]] ==
== Gears of War takes place in [[Warhammer 40,000]] ==
Lessee... we got Imulsion, which is clearly infused with the Warp, we got chainsaws, we got really big guns, we got Tyranid offshoots (probably started with a genestealer), we got a clear and present interest in [[More Dakka]], we got badasses coming out of our ears...
Lessee... we got Imulsion, which is clearly infused with the Warp, we got chainsaws, we got really big guns, we got Tyranid offshoots (probably started with a genestealer), we got a clear and present interest in [[More Dakka]], we got badasses coming out of our ears...
* Note that Gears in full armour bear a passing resemblance to Space Marines. Also, the COG has conscription, something the Imperium is totally all about.
* Note that Gears in full armour bear a passing resemblance to Space Marines. Also, the COG has conscription, something the Imperium is totally all about.
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== Gears of War is the end result of Dwarf Fortress. ==
== Gears of War is the end result of Dwarf Fortress. ==
Dwarves of the Fortress variety tend to build their homes in dark areas with lots of magma - Imulsion - and water sources. They also build needlessly complex architecture all over the place and sever all contact with the outside world except for setting humans/elves/goblins on fire. Gears of War is this scenario, but millions of years into the future. The swords and hammers have been replaced by Lancers and Hammerbursts; dwarves have lost all skin pigment from being underground for so long; humans have attempted contact with the locust (diplomats and liaisons) and failed; and finally, humans will never understand why the Locust fight because they are getting their orders directly from the player, a malicious and malevolent being in its own right.
Dwarves of the Fortress variety tend to build their homes in dark areas with lots of magma - Imulsion - and water sources. They also build needlessly complex architecture all over the place and sever all contact with the outside world except for setting humans/elves/goblins on fire. Gears of War is this scenario, but millions of years into the future. The swords and hammers have been replaced by Lancers and Hammerbursts; dwarves have lost all skin pigment from being underground for so long; humans have attempted contact with the locust (diplomats and liaisons) and failed; and finally, humans will never understand why the Locust fight because they are getting their orders directly from the player, a malicious and malevolent being in its own right.


== Queen Myrrah is in fact Romily ==
== Queen Myrrah is in fact Romily ==
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* It all makes sense to me, Sera used to be one of the UNSC's main Colonies before the Covenant attacked, their attack on Earth forced the UNSC to stray and Sera was lost and eventually developed into its own government, which any minute, can be found by the UNSC.
* It all makes sense to me, Sera used to be one of the UNSC's main Colonies before the Covenant attacked, their attack on Earth forced the UNSC to stray and Sera was lost and eventually developed into its own government, which any minute, can be found by the UNSC.
** Assuming Sera was cut off at the absolute beginning of the war, there is still less than a 30 year period before the UNSC would be able to return there. That is not enough time for Sera's technology to change that much, especially with some of it becoming more advanced, while it is less advanced in other areas. The manufacturing capabilities are also too different Sera can mass produce armor on a level that would bankrupt the entire UNSC.
** Assuming Sera was cut off at the absolute beginning of the war, there is still less than a 30 year period before the UNSC would be able to return there. That is not enough time for Sera's technology to change that much, especially with some of it becoming more advanced, while it is less advanced in other areas. The manufacturing capabilities are also too different Sera can mass produce armor on a level that would bankrupt the entire UNSC.
** Except the novels mention that the COG is literally running on fumes. Weapons and armour are now almost more valuable than the people who wield them. The UNSC, however, still had ships on the line at the end of the Human-Covenant war. In fact, they could technically out-produce the Covenant.
** Except the novels mention that the COG is literally running on fumes. Weapons and armour are now almost more valuable than the people who wield them. The UNSC, however, still had ships on the line at the end of the Human-Covenant war. In fact, they could technically out-produce the Covenant.
* Actually, it would make more sense if the colony was lost far before the Human-Covenant war, or never had alliance to the UNSC in the first place. After all, the UNSC at it's largest point consisted of over 800 planets, and it took about 300 years for it to get that big. It's also confirmed by the novels that not all of them were founded by official efforts. All that was needed was a large enough ship, and a large enough population. It's not to far a stretch to imagine a fed-up politician, possible one of the Kolsovic revolutionires that the UNSC defeated in the early 2100's, getting together his followers, packing up into a starship, and going to some unknown planet to escape the "tyranny of Earth," or whatever. 300 years is plenty of time for the COG to set it set itself up, discover Imulsion, and have the 60+ year long Pendulum Wars happen. Plus the 15 years of the Human-Locust War.
* Actually, it would make more sense if the colony was lost far before the Human-Covenant war, or never had alliance to the UNSC in the first place. After all, the UNSC at it's largest point consisted of over 800 planets, and it took about 300 years for it to get that big. It's also confirmed by the novels that not all of them were founded by official efforts. All that was needed was a large enough ship, and a large enough population. It's not to far a stretch to imagine a fed-up politician, possible one of the Kolsovic revolutionires that the UNSC defeated in the early 2100's, getting together his followers, packing up into a starship, and going to some unknown planet to escape the "tyranny of Earth," or whatever. 300 years is plenty of time for the COG to set it set itself up, discover Imulsion, and have the 60+ year long Pendulum Wars happen. Plus the 15 years of the Human-Locust War.


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== The war with the Locust was staged ==
== The war with the Locust was staged ==
The entire war was originally established as a [[The Running Man (film)|Running Man]]-style game show of sorts, meant to be a kind of gladiatorial form of entertainment. Only everything got out of hand, the Locust got all genocide-y, and everybody on Sera started fighting a war for real. When Cole Train says "Nobody plays this game like me!" he's the only one who hasn't adapted to the reality of the situation and he's still playing "the game".
The entire war was originally established as a [[The Running Man (film)|Running Man]]-style game show of sorts, meant to be a kind of gladiatorial form of entertainment. Only everything got out of hand, the Locust got all genocide-y, and everybody on Sera started fighting a war for real. When Cole Train says "Nobody plays this game like me!" he's the only one who hasn't adapted to the reality of the situation and he's still playing "the game".
** The WMG would have made a lot more sense if it was made before Gears of War 2 came out, when the real cause of the war was detailied, or even Gears of War 3, which went into great detail about it.
** The WMG would have made a lot more sense if it was made before Gears of War 2 came out, when the real cause of the war was detailied, or even Gears of War 3, which went into great detail about it.


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