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* [[Acceptable Targets]]: Many a person would have been upset at Gilbert if he had been the model for King Gama -- but since Gilbert was mocking Gilbert, it was all right. |
* [[Acceptable Targets]]: Many a person would have been upset at Gilbert if he had been the model for King Gama -- but since Gilbert was mocking Gilbert, it was all right. |
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* [[Creator's Pet]]: Alexis Pointdextre the designated hero of the Sorcerer |
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* [[Critical Research Failure]]: Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama") and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life -- but then, it was never meant to. |
* [[Critical Research Failure]]: Outside of an actual Japanese song ("Miya sama") and a phrase supposedly from a children's game ("O ni bikkuri shakkuri to!"), the Japan of ''The Mikado'' bears no resemblance in the least to the Japan of real life -- but then, it was never meant to. |
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** There is one other bit of actual Japanese culture. When Pooh-Bah offers to toast Nanki-Poo "three times three" (at his wedding before he is executed). It just happens, that's a pretty accurate translation of part of the Shinto Wedding ceremony (3 drinks (of sake of course) by the groom, 3 by the bride, 3 by the groom). |
** There is one other bit of actual Japanese culture. When Pooh-Bah offers to toast Nanki-Poo "three times three" (at his wedding before he is executed). It just happens, that's a pretty accurate translation of part of the Shinto Wedding ceremony (3 drinks (of sake of course) by the groom, 3 by the bride, 3 by the groom). |
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** ''The Mikado'' in particular is the source of many now-familiar English phrases, such as "a short, sharp shock," "Let the punishment fit the crime," and "grand Poohbah." |
** ''The Mikado'' in particular is the source of many now-familiar English phrases, such as "a short, sharp shock," "Let the punishment fit the crime," and "grand Poohbah." |
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* [[Moe]]: Patience and Grosvenor in ''Patience''. |
* [[Moe]]: Patience and Grosvenor in ''Patience''. |
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* [[Painful Rhyme]]: A lot (mostly of the [[So Bad |
* [[Painful Rhyme]]: A lot (mostly of the [[So Bad It's Good]] variety; [[Lampshaded|lampshaded]] in ''The Grand Duke'' ("When exigence of rhyme compels"). |
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** Somewhat confusingly, if Gilbert wanted a word like "Navy", "Sympathy", or "Arcady" to rhyme with "bee", he always wrote it out as "Navee", "Sympathee", or "Arcadee". So, "I shall live and die" is meant to rhyme with "A heartfelt sympa-thigh", but "Stick close to your desks and never go to sea / And you all may be rulers of the Queen's Navee". It's Victorian! ''Iolanthe'' goes one step further: |
** Somewhat confusingly, if Gilbert wanted a word like "Navy", "Sympathy", or "Arcady" to rhyme with "bee", he always wrote it out as "Navee", "Sympathee", or "Arcadee". So, "I shall live and die" is meant to rhyme with "A heartfelt sympa-thigh", but "Stick close to your desks and never go to sea / And you all may be rulers of the Queen's Navee". It's Victorian! ''Iolanthe'' goes one step further: |
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** To a lesser extent, Dick Deadeye, who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains. |
** To a lesser extent, Dick Deadeye, who is hated by his shipmates just because he's ugly and a hunchback-- true, he does rat on the two lovers and is not a very nice guy, but many people still feel sorry for him. From ''Pirates'' on, Gilbert tended to redeem his villains. |
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* [[Values Dissonance]]: ''Princess Ida'' is an attack on feminism that was considered outdated ''when it came out.'' |
* [[Values Dissonance]]: ''Princess Ida'' is an attack on feminism that was considered outdated ''when it came out.'' |
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* [[What an Idiot]]: The unnamed king in the song "There Lived a King" from ''The Gondoliers'' |
* [[What an Idiot!]]: The unnamed king in the song "There Lived a King" from ''The Gondoliers'' |
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** Not to mention Arac, Scynthius, and Guron in ''Princess Ida'', specifically during their (in)famous striptease song ("This Helmet I Suppose"), but really, any time any of them opens their mouth. ("On the whole we are/Not intelligent--/No! No! No! Not intelligent.") |
** Not to mention Arac, Scynthius, and Guron in ''Princess Ida'', specifically during their (in)famous striptease song ("This Helmet I Suppose"), but really, any time any of them opens their mouth. ("On the whole we are/Not intelligent--/No! No! No! Not intelligent.") |
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