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** Blaine Anderson. It didn't help that even right after being introduced, he was already getting more and more air time and way more solos than most of the original cast members, which ended up being shoehorned in once or twice (TSSBS, Prom Queen). And his characterization made him out to be a [[Canon Sue]] for a lot of people. It has reached the point where even ''[[Darren Criss]]'' thought Blaine had a little too much focus on him.

*** Fan reaction got even more split as of Season 3, where he became less of a [[Canon Sue]] and more as a [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|Spotlight Stealing]] [[Shallow Love Interest]].

*** Well YMMV because it seems that a lot of people claim Blaine steals time from others, when in reality, he hardly got any material outside of being Kurt's boyfriend, and others got a ton more time than him this season. In fact, Season 3 was more like the Finchel show with even the people on The Morning After saying that Blaine had gotten ''Glee'''s Asian Treatment (read: reduced to the background; human prop only to be used for songs on occasion).

* [[Crosses the Line Twice]]: Almost anything Sue does or says.

* [[Cultural Cringe]]: A localized version of the trope: several characters utterly despise Lima, OH, and small towns in general, and fantasize about moving to New York (and seem to have a very rose-tinted, idealized view of NYC).

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** Blaine is still insanely popular even after {{spoiler|having tried to force himself upon Kurt, shamed Kurt in front of his friends, turned them against him by having them participate in his [[Take That]] song to Kurt, breaking him down enough to sing "I Have Nothing" to him, ''and'' blaming Kurt for his anger because he was ''too busy thinking of his future''}}.

** Finn. He's done some pretty terrible things throughout the course of the show - outing Santana despite knowing from his friggin' ''step-brother's'' school transfer that the kids at McKinley High ''violently'' hate gays and that this careless act will paint a target on her back, for starters - but there are still many fans of his and the of 'Finchel' relationship.

** Santana, as many of her fans tend to downplay her role in bullying other characters to turn her into [[The Woobie]] due to her torment over her sexuality. While rewatching early season 3 episodes would suggest that her bullying was in response to people attacking her and making fun of or taking advantage of Brittany, which she then gets punished for — and punished for being punished - it's still not an excuse. On top of that, she's still ~~struggling~~ with her sexuality, thus providing an [[Alternative Character Interpretation]] that ~~puts~~ her in a better light, especially among the young gay kids who can ignore the rest of her character to get some comfort in a shared experience.

** Santana, as many of her fans tend to downplay her role in bullying other characters to turn her into [[The Woobie]] due to her torment over her sexuality. While rewatching early season 3 episodes would suggest that her bullying was in response to people attacking her and making fun of or taking advantage of Brittany, which she then gets punished for — and punished for being punished - it's still not an excuse. On top of that, she still struggled with her sexuality, thus providing an [[Alternative Character Interpretation]] that put her in a better light, especially among the young gay kids who can ignore the rest of her character to get some comfort in a shared experience.

** The creators intended for everyone to hate Quinn, but her very early season 1 snark and bitchiness steadily made her a fan favorite. Her pregnancy and parental abandonment further reinforced this status, with her actress choosing to play her up as more sympathetic just adding to the reasons that people found it hard to hate her. This reportedly got the writers to dislike her, and so numerous episodes in season 2 and ''especially'' Season 3 contained moments where Quinn is clearly supposed to be unsympathetic and viewed as being in the wrong - Will reminds her of how the glee club and its members have always supported her in the past and [[The Reason You Suck Speech|calls her out on blaming]] [[Never My Fault|''him'']] [[What the Hell Hero|for her transformation into a bad girl]] in "I Am Unicorn", Sam tells her that she should enjoy her senior year while it lasts instead of constantly stressing about Beth in "Hold On to Sixteen", Kurt tells her off for calling Dave "selfish" just because [[It's All About Me|''she's'' also been put through the wringer]] [[No Sympathy|but could never consider committing suicide herself]] in "On My Way" - but this still didn't stop the fans from waxing lyrical about her.

* [[Drinking Game]]: Take a shot every time the word "Funk" is used in Episode 21. And every time the word "distraction" or "distract" is used in episode "Hairography".

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* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Why Sue started out as one of the most popular characters on the show, before turning into an [[Overly Long Gag]].

* [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]]: "Rocky Horror Glee Show" attempted to tack on an aesop at the end by say "Freaks and outcasts are better off separating themselves from society because they aren't appreciated." Huh?

** "Props" had the aesop of "If someone hogs all attention and praise all the time from you, it's Ok, because it's meant to be like that!~~' Using Tina, an Asian-American character, for the plot and Rachel Berry as the attention-hogger she actually is also creates uncomfortable and pretty racist [[Unfortunate Implications]]...~~

** "Props" had the aesop of "If someone hogs all attention and praise all the time from you, it's Ok, because it's meant to be like that!"

* [[Fandom Heresy]]: Let's just say that there aren't many places in the ''[[Glee]]'' fandom where it's safe to admit that you don't much like Lea Michele's singing voice, and leave it at that. [[Chris Colfer]] and [[Darren Criss]] (if not [[Base Breaker|their characters]]) also tend to be sacred cows. Especially Darren's.

* [[Fan Dumb]]: While it may seem like a theater/band geek/ misfit paradise, the forum shows us that a vast majority of fans take the show more seriously than most school work, or in some cases, actual work. Flame wars get started over comments about a character's clothing, a throwaway comment that was played for laughs, song choice, and even seating positions. Numerous thread topics revolve around arguing about [[Darren Criss]] being a good actor or not, more topics have become pissing contests on who knows more about Broadway, and there is even a thread claiming The Beatles "aren't that good" and ''Glee'' made their songs better. It's not a wonder that the fans are often more hated than the show itself.

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** Will and Bryan, to combine your [[Foe Yay]] with [[Ho Yay]].

** Kurt and Puck in one of the Fox commercials.

** Kurt wants to lock Rachel in his basement. Okay. Until one remembers that his basement is also his bedroom. That doesn't have sexual undertones due to his sexuality, but one does have to wonder why he'd want to lock someone he has so many issues with in the place where he sleeps.

** Kurt wants to lock Rachel in his basement. Okay. Until one remembers that his basement is also his bedroom. That doesn't have sexual undertones due to his sexuality, but one does have to wonder why he'd want to lock someone he has so many issues with in the place where he sleeps. Then, there's the fact Kurt is just as determined as the other boys to go after Jesse when Jesse eggs Rachel. Rachel gets one by sending the football-playing ''Glee'' boys after the guy who has been terrifying Kurt.

*** Then, there's the fact Kurt is just as determined as the other boys to go after Jesse when Jesse eggs Rachel. Rachel gets one by sending the football-playing ''Glee'' boys after the guy who has been terrifying Kurt.

** Say what you want about the "Smooth Criminal" cover, but it's painfully obvious that Sebastian and Santana are both ''oozing'' this, despite the [[Incompatible Orientation]].

** Also, Kurt and Sebastian. Sometimes their sniping at each other seems to take this turn.

* [[Fountain of Memes]]: Brittany.

* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: Fandom-wise, a lot of people thought that Kurt and Blaine nominated/elected for Prom King(s) would be awesome, and many affectionate jokes about Kurt being the Prom ''Queen'' ensued. At least part of it was because some people just didn't want the other candidates to be prom queen, particularly Quinn for being [[Serious Business|creepily obsessed about it]], but also Santana for blackmailing Karofsky into being her beard and rejecting Brittany, and Lauren for cruelly leaking Quinn's "[[Formerly Fat|former identity]]" to the school. Then the episode "Prom Queen" rolls around {{spoiler|and Kurt is elected Prom Queen ''as a horrible joke''}}. Yeah, Ryan Murphy? ''[[Tear Jerker|You're a bastard]]''.

** Actually, was it ever confirmed to be a joke in the first place? This troper doesn't recall anyone laughing or booing or making fun of Kurt after the results were announced, and always just assumed that Kurt *jumped to the conclusion* that it was a joke because he's so used to being bullied that its the only response he has.

** "Rumours" revealed that {{spoiler|Sam's family have become victims of the recession, and live in a motel room}}. Care to remember what song he sang for his New Directions audition? That's right, {{spoiler|"Billionaire"}}.

** In "Pilot", Finn was blackmailed into joining ND when Will claimed he had found marijuana in his locker. That's so funny!... until we find out that Finn's actor, [[Cory Monteith]], dropped out of high school due to serious drug addiction problems.

** For most of the first season, Finn's mediocre singing and dancing was a running gag with the fandom. Cut to "The First Time" in in the third season, where {{spoiler|Finn is devastated that he didn't get a football scholarship to OSU. He laments that he isn't a good enough athlete to play on the college level (it doesn't help that the recruiter was [[Kick the Dog|kind of a dick about it]]), and isn't a good enough singer or dancer to get into a performing school either}}. Ironically, it's possibly Cory Monteith's best acting so far.

** In a more heartbreaking example, the Friday before "Heart" the 2012 Valentine's day episode, The music was released for the episode featuring {{spoiler|Mercedes doing a cover of [[Whitney Houston]]'s hit "I will always love you" the day before Whitney's untimely passing}}.

*** Here in Israel it was said to be a gesture for her that the creators managed to work up quickly.

* [[Genius Bonus]]: Though it's more like Movie Trivia Awareness Bonus, Will dreams he is performing the "Make 'Em Laugh" number from ''[[Singin' In The Rain]]'' while sick and feverish; [[Gene Kelly]] performed the film's title number with an incredibly high fever.

* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: Sunshine for Filipinos, natch.