Glee/YMMV: Difference between revisions

** Blaine: a [[Knight in Shining Armor]], handsome, knowledgeable and all or a complete [[Mary Sue|Marty Stu]] without any personality?

** Rachel: Self-centered [[Jerkass]] who occasionally [[Pet the Dog|displays kindness to other people]] or a well-intentioned girl who only wants the Glee club to be successful, but tends to go too far in pursuit of that goal and fails to think before she speaks/acts?

* [[Arc Fatigue]]: Some people feel that the Dalton arc--when Kurt transferred to Dalton Academy to get away from bullying--was drawn out too long, and that Kurt was being [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|overshadowed by Blaine and the Warblers in his own storyline]]. It was ''supposed'' to make a point about gay bullying, but for the most part amounted to little more than a few [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|big lipped alligator moments]] and [[Yaoi]] scenes. According to [[Word of God]], the Warblers were only supposed to appear for two episodes of the second season, but their immense popularity led to them staying on the show much longer, possibly into the third season. Until "Born This Way", when Kurt finally returned to McKinley, it felt entirely possible that he would be staying there indefinitely.

** Which makes this a case of [[Frige Brilliance]]: it emphasises how being in [[Mc Kinley]] stresses his individuality, instead of being part of the Warblers, who are extremely coordinated and sticklers to tradition.

* [[Award Snub]]:

** Nominated for 19 Emmys in the 2010 Emmys and only won 4. The Best Comedy Emmy and Best Casting Emmys (Comedy) went to [[Modern Family]] instead. Of course, if [[Modern Family]] hadn't won those, this entry would be on its page.

* [[Base Breaker]]: Most characters.

** Rachel. Any online discussion of Glee tends to be hijacked by someone talking about how she's the best singer/actor/oh-so-oppressed, followed promptly by people expressing their disagreement by demonizing Rachel in every conceivable way. The Rachel worshippers then proceed to bash all of the characters who aren't Rachel to show how she isn't so bad, making the haters even more defensive, and things go back and forth until the original topic is completely forgotten.

* [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]]:

** At one point the club is performing one of their songs onstage in front of a closed curtain. At the climax of the song, the curtain opens and an ''entire gospel choir is revealed'' and sings along with the cast. This is never brought up again.

** From the same episode, the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpKZcPU51MQ Umbrella/Singing in the Rain mash-up] featuring the cast performing elaborate choreography in front of ''a waterfall in their school auditorium.'' The writers don't even bother trying to explain this.

** Several of the Dalton numbers feel rather shoehorned into the show. "Baby, It's Cold Outside" had little purpose aside from being [[Yaoi]] fanservice, and "Bills, Bills, Bills" came out of nowhere after the commercial break with Regionals practice as its only [[Hand Wave]].

* [[Did Not Do the Research]]:

** Quinn couldn't have found out the sex of her baby since she's ten weeks pregnant. It's too early in the pregnancy.

** When Puck hears about Quinn's pregnancy he calls it "another Immaculate Conception". The Immaculate Conception actually refers to the belief that Mary was conceived without original sin, not the virgin birth. It's a very common mistake and once you add in the fact that Puck is Jewish, it's pretty understandable.

** Sue's "You take these weird little strides when you walk as if you were raised in imperial Japan and somebody bound your feet" to Emma. Feet-binding happened in imperial ''China''. Might be intentional on the writers' part, though: it might just be Sue not knowing, not giving a damn and/or possibly getting it intentionally wrong for the sake of jerkassitude.

** Kurt is frequently cited as the show's "breakout star," as is Sue Sylvester.

** Brittany, who wasn't in the pilot, didn't speak until episode 4, gets a handful of lines in every episode and still manages to be one of the most popular characters on the show with her charming minimalistic humor. The TIME TV critic James Poniewozik posts his favorite "Brittany-ism" after every show on his blog. Brittany. She's one of the two best dancers, and a pretty good singer to boot.

** Blaine, who's won a lot of fans over with his good looks and excellent voice.

** Mike Chang is also extremely popular, even before he started getting lines. Having nice abs doesn't hurt one's popularity.

*** Even more hilarious after {{spoiler|he and Santana become each other's [[The Beard|beards.]]}}

** When Glee first came out, Chris Colfer (Kurt) mentioned in an interview that "Kurt's [biggest fear] would be that there would be {{spoiler|school uniforms}}". Guess what happens come Season Two?

*** For added fun, in that same video he psyches himself up by saying "courage".

** Actress Amber Riley was turned down for ''[[American Idol]]'' (as in, didn't even make it on TV) before being picked up for ''Glee'', which will probably net her more fame than ''AI'' ever would.

** Santana's snarking on Kurt in episode 5:

** In the middle of Season 3, Puck mentions that global warming means his pool-cleaning business is in demand well into winter. This was meant to be a throwaway joke, but the winter of 2011-12 turned out to be unusually mild for much of the US, with summer-like weather in ''March''.

* [[Hollywood Homely]]: Suzie Pepper (played by the definitely-not-ugly Sarah Drew) saying that she and Rachel are "Mildly Attractive".

* [[Hype Backlash]]: It's been experiencing this, since the show's win at the Golden Globes / Emmy nomination.

* [[Hypocrite]]: Although being cheated on by his last two girlfriends and being broken up about it, Finn's more than eager to {{spoiler|help Quinn cheat on Sam with him}}.

* [[Recycled Premise]]: A number of plots, characters and ideas are blatantly lifted from ''[[Popular]]'', also created and written by Murphy.

* [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]]: Quinn and Rachel for some. Dave for others.

*** There's also [[Weeds]].

** In the first two Warbler performances, fans of Power Rangers: Samurai might spot the gold ranger singing next to Blaine.

* [[Romantic Plot Tumor]]: Rachel and Finn's wedding storyline in Season 3 is very hated. Most fans are praying that it doesn't happen.

** Santana's coming-out essentially sunk Santana/Puck and any other ships that had her matched with boys.

** Season 3 involuntarily sinks Finchel and Klaine every time it tries to show how great they are.

* [[Ship Tease]]:

** Finn's "Hello, I Love You" number made it seem like he still had feelings for Quinn.

***** Actually {{spoiler|rock salt has the effect of making ice 'colder', and thus melt slower. What Sebastian actually intended was for Kurt to get an extra-extra-cold slushie to the face,}} and thus the whole {{spoiler|prank gone wrong}} confession later on. Kudos to his understanding of chemistry though.

** Blaine's actions in season 3, committing bad acts yet never thinking of apologizing or letting others take the blame has shades of this.

* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: Even if Sue's techniques are not the most correct, she is almost always proven right.

** The point gets lost in his over-the-top maliciousness, but Bryan Ryan's argument that the Glee Club kids shouldn't plan their lives around succeeding in show business isn't an unreasonable one - but there's a big difference between saying that they should have a back-up plan and his belief that they should abandon ''all'' hope of success in the arts before getting any idea of what their chances really are.

** Which is...?

* [[Tastes Like Diabetes]]: The Rachel/Kurt friendship scenes come across this way to some. For roughly the first half of Season 1, they were frenemies, and their rivalry included struggles for solos and for Finn. Then, they made up and became friends, which would fine except that there were some who actually enjoyed their previous rivalry. And even the people who ''liked'' seeing Kurt and Rachel as friends eventually started to feel like their scenes together started getting [[Tastes Like Diabetes|overly-sappy]] and repetitive. To elaborate, the standard formula for a Kurt/Rachel scene basically started to become the following:

** ''Many'' Aesops and character-to-character moments come across this way to some people. The Kurt/Rachel interaction may be the biggest, [[Tastes Like Diabetes]] instigator, but there are arguably a lot of others.

** And as of ''Goodbye'', it's turned into ''[[High School Musical]]'': ''The Cover Edition''.

* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: "Audition" seems to set up an intense rivalry between Quinn and Santana over the position of Head Cheerleader, including the famous catfight in the hallway, which seems like it will be a big deal that season (confirmed by the creators' comments). Nothing comes of it. Quinn offhandedly mentions she needs to keep Santana off her back in "Duets", but nothing to this effect has ever been seen on screen, and, so far, nothing else has come of what initially appeared to be a pretty significant plot development.

** Dave Karofsky's suicide attempt for sure, because of the Klaine [[Fan Dumb]] and the writers' [[They Just Didn't Care]] attitude. Hell, they didn't even ''mention it'' '''in the [["Previously On..."]] in the episode after it'''.

** "Big Brother" definitely has this problem. They had a plot perfectly set up in {{spoiler|Quinn's car crash aftermath}} which ended up being almost completely sidelined in favor of bringing in drama with Blaine and his brother.

*** Rachel did point out that Shelby is now officially Beth's mother rather than simply an obstacle for Quinn, and that Beth would go into foster care if Shelby were deemed unfit.

** The show's constant smugness about its diverse cast makes the absence of any Muslim characters very jarring.

** Some argue that the two gay couples on the show are getting much less screen time/development than the straight couples.

*** And then in that, you have people who argue that the gay male couple(Kurt/Blaine) gets more screen time and development than the lesbian couple(Santana/Brittany)

* [[What Do You Mean It's Not for Kids?]]: The show had a joke about oral sex in the very second episode, along with a dance routine that bordered on dry humping and was described as "giving [the audience]...sex!" The third episode had a student talk about how much he loves to have sex with older, married women when he cleans their pools. The fourth episode had the president of the celibacy club get pregnant, and lie to her boyfriend that it happened when he ejaculated prematurely in the pool. And so on and so forth. And yet, there are people complaining that a scene with two boys kissing was "inappropriate for the children who watch the show."

** The fact that they play quite a few of the original and cover songs on Radio Disney REALLY doesn't help them change the idea.

** It made a pretty interesting storyline/scene when he was daydreaming about being able to get up and dance, in the episode "Dream On". If the casting director had cast an actor who was actually handicapped, one can only imagine how that dance dream sequence would have gone.

* [[The Woobie]]: