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{{quote|''In Heaven, they make love...''
''...on Earth, they have sex...''
''...but down here in Hell...down here, they '''fuck'''.''|'''Silver''', ''[[Jack (webcomic)|Jack]]''}}
|'''Silver''', ''[[Jack (webcomic)|Jack]]''}}
 
Main characters and other positive characters always have healthy sex lives. They might go through long periods of not being in a relationship (they may even be [[Hollywood Dateless]]) during which they may [[Ethical Slut|have a lot of good sex anyway]] or [[Celibate Hero|not]]. But when they are in one, the sex is frequent and good (unless the relationship is near its end).
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Only laughingstock old guys ever need Viagra. In the days before such drugs existed, male impotence was generally perceived as a trait of villains. Impotence leads to insanity, which leads to evil actions, as with [[General Ripper]] in ''[[Dr. Strangelove]]'' or ''[[The Man with the Golden Gun]]''.
 
In many settings, only characters of questionable morality have "weird" sexual preferences. For really old fashioned settings, this may even include [[Depraved Homosexual|gays]] and [[Psycho Lesbian|lesbians]]. Since the 1990s, if not before, gaynesshomosexuality has been largely [[Discredited Trope|freed from this trope]].
 
This excludes [[Very Special Episode]]s, pleading for tolerance, and series which intentionally include such preferences to be "edgy". Of course, in the latter, most characters have questionable morality anyway.
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See also [[Death by Sex]] and [[Sexual Karma]]. Compare [[Ethical Slut]] and [[Safe, Sane, and Consensual]]. Contrast [[Sex Is Evil]], [[Sex Is Good]].
 
{{noreallife|this is All The Tropes, not Tropes After Dark.}}
 
{{examples}}
== Anime &and Manga ==
* Subverted in ''[[Berserk]]''. It takes {{spoiler|Casca}} and {{spoiler|Guts}} at least one try before they can make sweet, sweet love without one of them having a bad bout of temporary insanity caused by post-traumatic stress from childhood sexual abuse. [[Doubly Subverted|Even then]], their moment is the only instance of sex in the series so far that wasn't either [[Attempted Rape]], [[Near-Rape Experience|near-rape]], [[Rape as Drama|actual rape]], [[Horny Devil|demon rape]], [[A Party - Also Known as an Orgy|a pagan orgy]], [[Nausea Fuel|just plain sick]], or done out of [[For the Evulz|spite]], [[Band of Brothels|money]], [[Anything That Moves|lust]], or [[Sex for Solace|pity]].
* ''Final Yamato'' was, until 2009, the last chapter of the ''[[Space Battleship Yamato]]'' saga. It concludes with the long-awaited wedding of the [[Official Couple]], followed ''immediately'' (in the theatrical version) by a tearfully passionate, tender sex scene.
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* ''[[Sensual Phrase]]'' has ''many'' sex scenes, and several of them are highly enjoyable for the people involved. Although Sakuya's [[Troubled but Cute|goodness]] is [[Bastard Boyfriend|rather questionable]], he ''is'' great in bed, and he plays the trope much straighter after {{spoiler|he and Aine get married}}.
* This is one of the major precepts in the work of [[Tanaka Yutaka]], especially with regard to emotional honesty, open communication, and its ilk.
* {{spoiler|Madoka and Kyosuke}}'s sex scene in ''Shin [[Kimagure Orange Road]]'' is a mix of this and [[Their First Time]], as well as very sweet and gentle {{spoiler|despite Kyousuke's initial doubts about how selfless he is or not. Madoka reassures him that it'll be okay and also wonders if her and Kyosuke's kids would be esper like him, and after some more chat while naked, Kyousuke pulls the covers off Madoka and they have sex.}}.
* {{spoiler|Makie and Renzaburo}}'s sex scene in [[Wicked City]] is extremely sweet, paused and slow, specially compared with all the [[Fan Disservice]] that has been going on. {{spoiler|Doubles as [["Glad to Be Alive" Sex]] as they both have ''barely'' survived an attack from the local demonic [[Dark Action Girl]] -- who's the same woman that Taki himself had sex with in the beginning.}}
* Daisuke from [[Resort Boin]], who goes from being on a vacation to a tropical island to sight see women to end up having sexual escapdes with six gorgeous women by generally being the nice guy. He helps each of the girls out as thier main assistant for any agenda they have on the duration of his vacation, he ends up being a protective yet perverted badass with a heart of gold who kicks anyone's ass for * messing with them (ask Nao and Mika). Then he's rewarded with hot consensual love making that would make James Bond jealous.
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** Not to mention, the very kind and softspoken Masataka {{Spoiler|never really gets "good sex" since he's sexually abused by both Souma and Katsuragi}}.
 
== ComicsComic Books ==
* In [[Joss Whedon]]'s last arc of ''Astonishing [[X-Men]]'', before the X-Men make their final stand against the Breakworld, Colossus is overwhelmed by the position he finds himself in, as he is supposedly prophesied to destroy the Breakworld. While he and Kitty Pryde are granted shelter by a renegade "pacifist" Breakworlder, as they prepare for bed Kitty distracts Colossus from his emotional turmoil by standing before him completely naked. The next issue we see them in afterglow, and going by the conversion it was very good:
{{quote|'''Kitty''': Whoof!
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** Finally, Doctor Manhattan, the only superpowered being in the series uses his [[A God Am I|powers]] in the most "interesting" ways during intercourse in hopes of exciting Laurie. Not only does it end up [[squick]]ing her out but he knew it was inevitable. Since he is mostly without emotion and is more concerned with the nature of science, it makes sense that his sex scene is both fascinating and lifeless.
 
== Fan FictionWorks ==
* ''[[Beyond the Dawn]]'', a huge fic inspired by ''[[The Silmarillion]]'', contains very tender and poetically depicted love scenes between Beren&Luthien. On the contrary, one of the prominent enemies, mighty orc Boldog, is a real motherfucker. Literally.
* Subverted in ''[[Naruto Veangance Revelaitons]]''. Ronan often engages in some fairly disgusting practices while having sex with Sakura, but despite being the protagonists of the fic, Ronan and Sakura are not exactly good people, even though they're intended to be seen as such.
* In [[Respawn of the Dead]] (including the [[Prequel]]), Heavy and Medic are depicted as having loving, mutually enjoyable sex (although Medic apparently likes to play with scalpels and shows up after an offscreen sex scene with the world's biggest hicky, not to mention the fact [[Their First Time]] is after they had way too much fun spychecking Soldier and Scout [[Immortal Life Is Cheap|the hard way]]). But {{spoiler|Soldier [[Cargo Ship|humps his shovel]] and gets off on beating up Medic}}. In the [[Prequel]], {{spoiler|Spy has [[A Date with Rosie Palms]] in front of the mirror, [[Loving a Shadow|disguised as the Engineer]]}}, which... [[It Got Worse|just gets worse]] in the main fic.
* In the ''[[Death Note]]'' [[Slash Fic]] ''[[A Cure for Love]]'' L notices an immediate change (for the worse) in their sex lives once [[Face Heel Turn|Light becomes Kira again.]]
 
 
== Film ==
* Merrily subverted in every incarnation of ''[[The Addams Family]]'', where Weird People Have Weird Sex—andSex — and also, very obviously, a ''terrific'' time. In fact, Gomez was the ''only'' husband in black & -and-white Televisionland who actually lusted after his own wife. He more than made up for the rest of them, too.
* In ''[[The Departed]]'', Matt Damon's villain character has at least one bout with erectile dysfunction (tellingly {{spoiler|right after he's gotten engaged, betraying his deep-seated trust issues.}}) The hero, [[Leonardo DiCaprio]], is a lovin' machine.
* In Robert Rodriguez's ''[[Desperado]],'' we have an extended, passionate love scene between the main protagonists. Cut to the villain Bucho lying on his bed, smoking a cigar and looking bored while a prostitute bounces up and down on him. Then she kisses him and he blows smoke into her mouth, sending her into a coughing fit.
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* Subverted in ''[[Team America: World Police]],'' when the hero finally gets the girl, the puppet-on-puppet sex is [[Nausea Fuel]].
* The secret agents of The Legion to Ensure Total Harmony and Law (L.E.T.H.A.L) in the Andy Sidaris films ''Malibu Express'', ''Hard Ticket to Hawaii'', ''Picasso Trigger'', ''Savage Beach'', ''Guns'', ''Do or Die'', ''Hard Hunted'', ''Fit to Kill'', ''Day of the Warrior'' and ''L.E.T.H.A.L Ladies: Return to Savage Beach''
 
 
== Literature ==
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* ''[[Paradise Lost]]'': Milton delivers a [[Take That]] to the [[Moral Guardians]] of his time by including sex (''a lot'' of sex, according to Eve) in Adam's and Eve's perfect life in Eden.
* Played straight, averted, and subverted throughout in the [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]:
** First, Luke and Mara regularly use double -entendres around each other, but some of these have an S&M subtext, e.g. "I hope he doesn't mean the same thing as when I call you master," subverting it.
*** Luke also had a one-night stand with Akanah in the Black Fleet books. In typical Luke style, he was emotionally attached to her, and then learned everything she told him was a lie.
** Played straight in the Jedi Academy Trilogy, where Admiral Daala has homophobic thoughts.
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== Live-Action TV ==
* In ''[[24|Twenty Four]]'', Jack and Renee spend nearly ''forty minutes'' having sex, which she describes as perfect. {{spoiler|Charles Logan}} meanwhile apparently finishes in about 2 minutes. Similarly when Vladimir Laitanan (who previously beat and raped Renee) blackmails her into sleeping with him, they are done in 9 minutes.
* Sheridan and Delenn's wedding night ''would'' have been this in ''[[Babylon 5]]''. Unfortunately G'kar's cybernetic peeping tom gave this an annoying bit of [[Mood Dissonance]].
* No-one in ''[[The Bill]]'' engages in "rough sex". If anyone says that, it's a rape or domestic abuse situation.
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* Marshall and Lily from ''[[How I Met Your Mother]]'' have an awesome sex life and they're wonderful people. Amusingly, the show deliberately subverts the traditional [[All Women Are Prudes]] / [[All Men Are Perverts]] dynamics; Marshall's a horny son of a gun, but Lily's usually the one pushing for sex. When they went three weeks without sex, Lily developed the shakes.
* Avoided to a degree in ''[[Jack of All Trades (TV series)|Jack of All Trades]]'' episode, "X Marquis the Spot", where the people on Agony Island (most notably Hans and Helga) are depicted as shunned by society for their love of bondage, but not wrong or evil. The Marquis is evil, but that has more to do with him being French than being a sadomasochist. At the end of the episode, Emilia mentions that although S&M isn't for everyone, there's nothing [[Freaks of the Week|inherently evil about it]]. Jack is too creeped out to agree.
* ''[[Malcolm in the Middle|]]'': Lois and Hal]] are sexually very active. ''[[Up to Eleven|Very]]'' active.
{{quote|'''Malik:''' Only twice per week?
'''Hal:''' Oh, per ''week''... Fourteen. }}
* Averted in ''[[Pushing Daisies]]'', where the two leads are unable to touch without one of them dying, but have a fulfilling monogamous relationship anyway. It's mentioned at one point that Ned, the male lead, has invented "contraptions" to enable them to have some sort of sex life, so their choices are essentially between "no sex" and "extremely kinky sex", and it appears that at least some of the time, they go for the latter option.
* The Viagra example is played with in an episode of ''[[Scrubs]]''. Elliot assumes the above about it and then, while in the cafeteria, Dr. Cox sets her straight by having everyone in the room close their eyes, then asks anyone who's ever used Viagra for recreational purposes to chime their glass. The room is filled with ringing.
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* Played straight in ''[[Veronica Mars]]'', of all places. Veronica and Logan have a happy, healthy sex life, whereas in the season two finale it is hinted that {{spoiler|Beaver couldn't get it up with Mac, right before the revelation that he is the [[Big Bad]] serial killer of the season, who murdered an entire [[Bus Full of Innocents]]}}. Made even worse when you look at the back story: {{spoiler|earlier in the show, Beaver once ''raped'' Veronica when she was lying unconscious, implying that he's a complete sexual pervert. Also, he had Chlamydia, which he passed on to Veronica}}.
* In the ''[[Masters of Horror]]'' episode "Jenifer", the first indication that Frank is becoming obsessed with Jenifer is when he can't stop fantasizing about her while having a bout of rough sex with his wife, which she clearly isn't enjoying.
 
 
== Religion ==
* Perhaps the ur-example, [[The Bible|The Bible's]]'s Song of Songs uses a collection of love poetry exchanged between a married couple (by some traditions, Solomon and one of his wives), who are ''not'' shy about saying exactly what they love about each other, as a metaphor for the loving relationship between God and his followers.
 
 
== Videogames ==
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* [[No More Heroes|Travis Touchdown]] locks himself in with Sylvia, and all we hear is ''shotgun blasts'' coming from inside.
* In ''[[Persona 3]]'' and ''[[Persona 4]]'' of ''[[Shin Megami Tensei]]'' fame, you (as the MC) are given the opportunity to sleep with almost any of the girls' whose [[Level Up At Intimacy 5|S-Links]] you've completed. The scenes are not given explicit detail, since this ain't an [[Eroge]], but it's heavily implied that both Main Characters are very loving and gentle.
 
 
== Visual Novels ==
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* Inverted near the end of {{spoiler|Shizune's route}} in [[Katawa Shoujo]]. You get a scene where you can choose to cheat on her. If you do cheat: 1) the sex is really uncomfortable and 2) it leads to her [[Bad Ending]]. And if you refuse, {{spoiler|it's played straight: you're "rewarded" with one of the most explicit and pleasant-to-go-through sex scenes of the game, in which Shizune shows off both her [[Black Bra and Panties]] and [[Brains and Bondage|her kinky and sex-topping side]].}}
 
== Web Comics ==
 
* ''[[Dominic Deegan|]]'': Miranda and Donovan Deegan]] are both in their 60s and still [http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2006-04-18 very much in love with each other].
== Webcomics ==
* [[Dominic Deegan|Miranda and Donovan Deegan]] are both in their 60s and still [http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2006-04-18 very much in love with each other].
* The page quote above comes from ''[[Jack (webcomic)|Jack]]'', in which this seems to be an immutable law of the world. You could also replace "on Earth" with "in Purgatory."
* This trope is the basis for about half of ''[[Joyce and Walky]]''.
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* In ''[[Everyday Heroes]]'', Mr. Mighty and Jane [http://www.webcomicsnation.com/eddurd/everydayheroes/series.php?view=single&ID=188013 still have a happy marriage] after 17 years.
** Subverted by Dr. and Mrs. Goode, a normal couple who apparently like to [http://www.webcomicsnation.com/eddurd/everydayheroes/series.php?view=single&ID=205506 spice things up a bit.]
 
 
== Web Original ==
* Played with in ''[[Ilivais X]]''. Mille certainly isn't a ''bad'' person, as she represents the idealistic and heroic attitude a [[Super Robot Genre]] protagonist SHOULD''should'' possess. But she's also shown to be incredibly lustful and dominant, having her way with others solely to satisfy her needs. As such sleeping with {{spoiler|Essen}}, an undoubtedly [[Neutral Good]] character, came across as awkward and made any kind of friendship strained from that point. But her more loaded interactions with the far more morally ambiguous Iriana are strangely romantic and tender, even if they're loaded with that undertone that Iriana feels too weak to be able to say no.
 
* Played with in ''[[Ilivais X]]''. Mille certainly isn't a ''bad'' person, as she represents the idealistic and heroic attitude a [[Super Robot Genre]] protagonist SHOULD possess. But she's also shown to be incredibly lustful and dominant, having her way with others solely to satisfy her needs. As such sleeping with {{spoiler|Essen}}, an undoubtedly [[Neutral Good]] character, came across as awkward and made any kind of friendship strained from that point. But her more loaded interactions with the far more morally ambiguous Iriana are strangely romantic and tender, even if they're loaded with that undertone that Iriana feels too weak to be able to say no.
 
 
== Western Animation ==
* Similarly, ''[[Family Guy|]]'': Peter and Lois]] Griffin are occasionally showed to have a good if... [[Casual Kink|diverse]] sex life. One memorable instance involves the two of them discussing the threat to the moral fibre of their neighborhood posed by drugs, while getting ready for a heavy BDSM session. The safe-word[[Safe Word]] is "banana".
* Used in ''[[Justice League]]'''s episode "The Great Brain Robbery." The quality of the sex is (heavily implied to be) one of the things that tips Tala off to Lex Luthor not being himself.
{{quote|'''Tala''': Baby, you were so... ''different.'' So attentive. So caring. So... ''enthusiastic.''