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[[File:basilratigansmoking2.jpg|link=The Great Mouse Detective|frame|Smoking [[Foe Yay|might be]] the only interest they both share.]]
[[File:basilratigansmoking2.jpg|link=The Great Mouse Detective|frame|Smoking [[Foe Yay|might be]] the only interest they both share.]]
{{quote|'''Spike:''' Taking up smoking, are you? <br />
{{quote|'''Spike:''' Taking up smoking, are you?
'''Harmony:''' I ''am'' a villain, Spike. Helloooo? [then coughs, ruining the whole thing]|''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]''}}
'''Harmony:''' I ''am'' a villain, Spike. Helloooo? [then coughs, ruining the whole thing]|''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]''}}


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* Cigarillos are usually sleazy, low-level evil with a tendency to droop. Of course, there is [[Clint Eastwood]].
* Cigarillos are usually sleazy, low-level evil with a tendency to droop. Of course, there is [[Clint Eastwood]].
* Also an indicator of Evil Smoking is if they hold a cigarette in an unusual way. As Jim Jarmusch comments to Harvey Keitel in ''[[Blue In The Face]]'':
* Also an indicator of Evil Smoking is if they hold a cigarette in an unusual way. As Jim Jarmusch comments to Harvey Keitel in ''[[Blue In The Face]]'':
{{quote| Nazis in movies. Why do they always smoke in some weird way like this? (puts cigarette between middle and ring fingers and speaking in German accent) "Ve have vays of making you talk!" Or this (holds cigarette with thumb and index finger) "Jah, we have seen vhat you've done!"}}
{{quote|Nazis in movies. Why do they always smoke in some weird way like this? (puts cigarette between middle and ring fingers and speaking in German accent) "Ve have vays of making you talk!" Or this (holds cigarette with thumb and index finger) "Jah, we have seen vhat you've done!"}}


Not surprisingly, before the Surgeon General's report on tobacco use this trope was almost completely reversed. Non-Smokers were uptight and uncool, Smokers were just doing what everybody else did, and were perfectly normal, and made smoking look cool and perfectly healthy. It was more common for heroes to smoke than villains.
Not surprisingly, before the Surgeon General's report on tobacco use this trope was almost completely reversed. Non-Smokers were uptight and uncool, Smokers were just doing what everybody else did, and were perfectly normal, and made smoking look cool and perfectly healthy. It was more common for heroes to smoke than villains.
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*** Kitty Pryde only smokes when she's been somehow turned evil or possessed by something evil.
*** Kitty Pryde only smokes when she's been somehow turned evil or possessed by something evil.
*** [[Wolverine]] used to smoke cigars, but eventually gave up the habit, specifically directly after losing his adamantium to [[Magneto]]'s cruelty; his healing power got extremely taxed during that incident, which may have something to do with it (in-universe, at least). Paraphrasing:
*** [[Wolverine]] used to smoke cigars, but eventually gave up the habit, specifically directly after losing his adamantium to [[Magneto]]'s cruelty; his healing power got extremely taxed during that incident, which may have something to do with it (in-universe, at least). Paraphrasing:
{{quote| '''Wolverine:''' Time I gave those nasty things up, anyway.}}
{{quote|'''Wolverine:''' Time I gave those nasty things up, anyway.}}
*** Gambit was also known to smoke in his early appearances in the 90s.
*** Gambit was also known to smoke in his early appearances in the 90s.
** Mob boss Kingpin originally had a cigarette holder, but switched to villainous cigars after they went out of style.
** Mob boss Kingpin originally had a cigarette holder, but switched to villainous cigars after they went out of style.
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* The [[Rich Bitch]] villainess of the 1995 live-action ''[[Casper (film)|Casper]]'' movie smoked cigarettes.
* The [[Rich Bitch]] villainess of the 1995 live-action ''[[Casper (film)|Casper]]'' movie smoked cigarettes.
* Mr. Banks in ''[[Mary Poppins]]'' smoked a pipe. We never actually ''see'' this, but he mentions it in "The Life I Lead":
* Mr. Banks in ''[[Mary Poppins]]'' smoked a pipe. We never actually ''see'' this, but he mentions it in "The Life I Lead":
{{quote| ''At 6:01, I march through my door''<br />
{{quote|''At 6:01, I march through my door''
''My slippers, sherry and pipe are due at 6:02''<br />
''My slippers, sherry and pipe are due at 6:02''
''Consistent is the life I lead!'' }}
''Consistent is the life I lead!'' }}
* In ''[[Ghost Rider (film)|Ghost Rider]]'', the police try [[Good Cop, Bad Cop]] on Johnny, and the good cop asks if he can have a cig. Johnny indicates he doesn't mind, but the Ghost Rider powers are in ready mode, and the cop's lighter flares up wildly.
* In ''[[Ghost Rider (film)|Ghost Rider]]'', the police try [[Good Cop, Bad Cop]] on Johnny, and the good cop asks if he can have a cig. Johnny indicates he doesn't mind, but the Ghost Rider powers are in ready mode, and the cop's lighter flares up wildly.
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* Most of the characters in ''[[Grim Fandango]]'' qualify due to the heavy [[Film Noir]] influences in the game's plot. The gentle Meche smokes to show you how hard and jaded her experiences in the Underworld have made her. But they're all dead, so...
* Most of the characters in ''[[Grim Fandango]]'' qualify due to the heavy [[Film Noir]] influences in the game's plot. The gentle Meche smokes to show you how hard and jaded her experiences in the Underworld have made her. But they're all dead, so...
** Lampshaded in this exchange between Manny and literal [[Anthropomorphic Personification|Speed Demon]], Glottis:
** Lampshaded in this exchange between Manny and literal [[Anthropomorphic Personification|Speed Demon]], Glottis:
{{quote| '''Glottis''': It's not just a job, it's what I was created to do! If I get any farther away from a car than this, I'll get sick and die! It's like I'm not happy unless I'm breathing in the thick, black, nauseating fumes!<br />
{{quote|'''Glottis''': It's not just a job, it's what I was created to do! If I get any farther away from a car than this, I'll get sick and die! It's like I'm not happy unless I'm breathing in the thick, black, nauseating fumes!
'''Manny''': *takes a very long drag of his cigarette* [[Hypocritical Humor|I can't imagine...]] }}
'''Manny''': *takes a very long drag of his cigarette* [[Hypocritical Humor|I can't imagine...]] }}
* You can tell producer Dee Vasquez in ''[[Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]]'' is bad news because she uses a cigarette holder.
* You can tell producer Dee Vasquez in ''[[Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]]'' is bad news because she uses a cigarette holder.