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** Later events {{spoiler|show pretty unambiguously that Chao could have improved on the actual outcome, if allowed to win. The best argument against her is "But she might get corrupted by power". Well, and the fact that even when she explained what was going on, she downplayed it to such a level that it didn't seem worth the risk to let her succeed.}}
** Negima ''loves'' this trope, as the [[Big Bad]]'s ultimate goal is to ''save the world''. The only reason Negi opposes him is because said [[Big Bad]] is causing ''massive'' amounts of collateral damage in the process, and Negi wants to prevent that; they're basically fighting over who can do a better job of saving the world.
* ''[[Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind]]''. Of all the various factions, the closest any come to being completely "good" or "evil" are the Forest People, who are [[Noble Savage|deeply spiritual nature lovers]], but they can also be [[Can't Argue with Elves|deeply pragmatic in their attitudes toward other peoples]] and the [[Humans Are
* In ''[[Princess Mononoke]]'' both Eboshi and the animal spirits only want to protect their people, but both sides are more than willing to kill lots of innocents for that. Even the one character who is closest to being a real villain [[Affably Evil|is a very nice and likable guy]].
** The monkeys are really creepy, but their situation makes it kind of understandable why they would resolve to [[I'm a Humanitarian|such drastic measures]].
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== Film ==
* ''[[The Matrix]]'' sequels and supplementary materials [[retcon]]ned the human/machine war into this, with the robots repeatedly trying to settle matters diplomatically, and the humans revealed to be [[Humans Are
* By the end of ''[[The Prestige]]'', both lead characters have innocent blood on their hands, whether due to obsession with revenge, or due to single-minded pursuit of their Greatest Magic Trick Ever.
* Arguably the two leads in the film ''Changing Lanes''.
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