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Or is she? Perhaps at some point, Johnny finally gets tired of his wild imagination pulling him into crazy situations and bestows his powers on Kirsty, who being the [[I Have Many Names|identity challenged]] person she is warps both her and Johnny into completely new identities and forms, as well as a different island nation. Still a bit of a backwater though.
 
* The fact that the first book centered on data based aliens, the second on Johnny suddenly realizing he can see "post senior citizens" and ghosts, and the third deals with time travel may explain why the three major groups represented by the SOS are data based aliens, [[ESPersESPer]]s, and time travelers. The [[ESPersESPer]]s may have different powers because Kirsty wasn't directly involved with the second story and thus may have only gone with her own general idea of "psychic powers." It also fits that Kyon was originally intended to be the [[ESPer]] and Johnny was actually one.
 
Whether Mrs. Tachyon is a member of Asahina's group, their rivals, or is indeed Ms. Asahina herself from way, way, WAY further down the timeline is up in the air.
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== Kunikida and/or Taniguchi are Espers employed by the Orginzation ==
Tanigawa's love of making background characters [[Chekhov's Gunman|Chekhov's Gunmen]] seems rather odd when [[Those Two Guys]] are considered in. Taniguchi and Kunikida have only acted as moron and milquetoast, respectively, while many other characters have turned out to be more than they appear. Kunikida always has the same smarmy grin as Koizumi, so throw that in, if you want.
* I wholly agree, simply because it's hinted that Taniguchi WAS involved with Haruhi earlier, and he says that Koizumi makes him uncomfortable; not to mention that Kunikida has quite a few knowing looks or grins in the novel.
** Someone from the organization had to keep an eye on Haruhi in middle school - a teacher could have done it, but a student could have gotten closer. Taniguchi did say he was in her class the whole time, and apparently tried to get close, so he fits. When they ended up in the same high school he was supposed to carry on as before, but overheard Harhui wanting a 'Mysterious Transfer Student', thus tipping off the organization to send in Itsuki, who would be able to get into the club Haruhi had set up. Kunikida, who went to middle school with Kyon, is only really likely to be an esper if Kyon is a/the real god, unless he's one of Sasaki's espers, and couldn't go with her because she entered an all-girl's school. However, the idea might just be the same as with the "Kyon as the real God/a slider" theory: it's much more fun if they're actually 100% human, because it's not what we're expecting - and it shows how special they are as characters that they can have even that much impact, and yet they're 100% ordinary humans (which is the case with almost NOBODY in the books, the only possible other exceptions being Tsuruya and Kyon's sister).
However, the idea might just be the same as with the "Kyon as the real God/a slider" theory: it's much more fun if they're actually 100% human, because it's not what we're expecting - and it shows how special they are as characters that they can have even that much impact, and yet they're 100% ordinary humans (which is the case with almost NOBODY in the books, the only possible other exceptions being Tsuruya and Kyon's sister).
*** And those two exceptions are pretty iffy if you buy into the theories that Tsuruya is a Slider/Kyon's Sister is Mikuru.
 
== Taniguchi is the devil and Kunikida is God and the entire series is the result of an Job type bet between them ==
* Taniguchi (the devil) bets Kunikida (God) that humans are selfish and evil creatures, Kunikida bets that humans are basically good and do care about other people. To see who is right Kunikida grants god-like reality warping power to the biggest jerkass Taniguchi can find (Haruhi) and Kunikida picks Kyon (the only one made immune to Haruhi's powers) as his champion to save Mikuru and the world from Haruhi, proving that there is at least one good person left in sodom.
*** Taniguchi being the devil would shine a whole new light on his spiel about how perhaps love is whats missing in his life, when he talks about the love taxi in the 2nd season "sigh" story arc.
 
== Arakawa is [[Luke, I Am Your Father|Taniguchi's Father]] ==
Hey, they look alike. Maybe Taniguchi's constant hitting on women is a side affect of a lack of a father figure. Alternatively, Arakawa was around to be a father to Taniguchi, but because he became an esper, [[Laser-Guided Amnesia|He erased his son's memories and disappeared.]]
* Or Taniguchi really is aparta part of the Esper faction...
 
== Mikuru isn't just a Time Lord she is [[Doctor Who|The Doctor herself]] ==
He always said he wanted to be ginger ...
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It could be that he had an unusual name, say, surname Ya from Chinese ancestry and personal name Nyan or (misread) ryan[sic] from a hebrew-speaking parent or parent who found western or mythological names interesting, or that his favorite snack was at one time YanYan (or someone called him that after an embarrassing incident involving chocolate creme) and he would [[Never Live It Down]].
 
== The Anti-SOS Brigade are [[Designated Villain|DesignatedVillains]]s. ==
Think about it; we don't really know much about them yet. Fujiwara is an asshole, but it seems to be a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]. Kyoko seems to be a kind individual, and only commits evil deeds on orders from her morally ambiguous leaders. Kuyoh seems entirely robotic, but it seems this is just because Sky Canopy Domain cannot comprehend a perfect ambassador to human thought processes.
* FINALLY, someone that comes to their aid! They're always inappropriately villainized in the community, when all the evidence points to them being Designated villains. It's clear that Kyoko is a caring person, who, like Fujiwara, believe they are doing the right thing. And Kuyoh... well, we don't know shit about her. In fact, Tanigawa probably doesn't either, considering how late the novels are...
 
== Sneering Bastard wants a chain reaction/paradox. ==
SB says it: he doesn't want time travel to exist. So he'll stop it. There are four ways to do this:
1.# Kill the creator of time travel - tried it, failed it.
2./3.# Stopping Kyon/Mikuru from saving the boy
4.# PreventingStopping HaruhiMikuru from givingsaving the boy time travel ideas.
# Preventing Haruhi from giving the boy time travel ideas.
He can only do any of these by being a hypocrite and traveling back in time.
If there is no time travel, Mikuru can't be sent back. If Mikuru isn't sent back, she can't take Kyon to 3 years ago. If Kyon doesn't go back to 3YA, Haruhi won't meet John Smith. If Haruhi doesn't meet John Smith, she goes to Koyouen. If she goes to Koyouen, we get a bored god-powered girl(Alt!Haruhi). But, if Haruhi is Alt!Haruhi, she might rewrite the universe out of boredom, bringing back the whole madness. Unless, he shares Kyoko's idea of Haruhi being a copy of Sasaki's powers, and thinks that the copying happened when she met John Smith. So if she never meets him, the SOS brigade won't exist. Yuki and Ryoko won't be sent to observe, Mikuru is out of the picture, the Organization isn't interested in Haruhi. However, all four parties (IDSE, SCD, the Organization and Kyoko's group) would turn to Sasaki.
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* Their parents were the ones who caused the timelines to split into Alpha and Beta as a result of their divorce causing both Haruhi and Sasaki to be separated meaning that Sasaki and Haruhi are not gods but their parents were.
** [[Jossed]]
 
* Their inherited godlike powers from their parents are a curse. Sasaki said to Kyon that supernatural beings cannot exist meaning even if she and Haruhi are reunited one of them could cease to exist. Sasaki doesn't know that whether she or Haruhi can or cannot exist once both the alpha and beta timelines are merged.