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== [[Everyone Is Related]] ==
* It's been pointed out on this page that Kyon's sister looks a lot like Mikuru, but on the [[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)/Characters|character page]], it's pointed out that she also looks a lot like ''Haruhi''. Kyon and Itsuki also look like they could be related. Also, [[Hands -Off Parenting|parents are largely absent in this show]], and while Kyon's mother occasionally gets mentioned in the novels, his father is completely absent. This is because, due to [[Time Travel]], Kyon is the father (or possibly grandfather in Mikuru's case) of every member of the SOS Brigade except for Yuki. [[My Own Grampa|Yes, including himself; Mikuru being his granddaughter is based on the idea that she's Imouto-chan's daughter.]]
 
== Every single person in Haruhi's class, except for Kyon, is an alien, time traveller, slider or esper. ==
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Instead, the non-physical god is following Haruhi around to help her get over her issues. It's trying to set her up with Kyon because it thinks that will help her, and because she likes him.
 
* So what will happen when she touches her [[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]] again?
 
== Sakanaka is the true god of the series. ==
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* Hm. Makes more sense, in some ways, than the Kyon-is-the-slider theory.
 
* {{spoiler|[[Jossed]] in Volume 10.}} It's closer to {{spoiler|Haruhi save scumming subconsciously.}}
 
== {{spoiler|Kuyou is in love with Kyon and didn't want to attack him in the first chapter of vol. 10.}} ==
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Or is she? Perhaps at some point, Johnny finally gets tired of his wild imagination pulling him into crazy situations and bestows his powers on Kirsty, who being the [[I Have Many Names|identity challenged]] person she is warps both her and Johnny into completely new identities and forms, as well as a different island nation. Still a bit of a backwater though.
 
* The fact that the first book centered on data based aliens, the second on Johnny suddenly realizing he can see "post senior citizens" and ghosts, and the third deals with time travel may explain why the three major groups represented by the SOS are data based aliens, [[ES PersESPer]]s, and time travelers. The [[ES PersESPer]]s may have different powers because Kirsty wasn't directly involved with the second story and thus may have only gone with her own general idea of "psychic powers." It also fits that Kyon was originally intended to be the [[ES PerESPer]] and Johnny was actually one.
 
Whether Mrs. Tachyon is a member of Asahina's group, their rivals, or is indeed Ms. Asahina herself from way, way, WAY further down the timeline is up in the air.
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The anime series departs occasionally from the written form of the series, and they may have set it up as potential for padding in later series where they stole stuff to flesh out ''Melancholy'' to fourteen episodes.
 
== Tanigawa Nagaru is actually an adherent of [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/:Discordian |Discordianism]] and the series is pretty much an [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mindfuck:Operation Mindfuck|Operation Mindfuck]] pet project of his. ==
Just look at the intro description for Operation Mindfuck, it all fits! Also, the reason why the tenth novel is late is because Tanigawa Nagaru is [[Troll|trolling]] everybody--all in the name of Operation Mindfuck! The Chao is strong in him indeed. Knowing all this, we can then be reasonably certain that the tenth novel will probably end with {{spoiler|five tons of flax}}.
 
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== Ryoko's song Koyubi de Gyu! is about Yuki and Her ==
As mentioned by me above If you read them only passingly you might think they where about Haruhi or just school life, but I was going over the lyrics and noticed something. This takes into account Ryoko is made to be more sociable then Yuki.
{{quote| ''On the way home, would you like to drop by that shop?''}}
this suggests it's someone she would walk home with, note Haruhi never knew where Ryoko lived. Yuki lives in the same building as Ryoko they may have walked home together from time to time. Ryoko may have tried to convince her to go shopping with her.
{{quote| ''You and I might be alike somehow''}}
Ok list three ways that Haruhi and her are alike that arn't stupidly obvious.
{{quote| ''We can get a smile''}}
I think she's really just asking Yuki to smile for her. I think since her an Yuki where both the same thing she wanted Yuki to be her friend (and maybe more)this leads me to one final WMG. Also there are more reasons I believe this but I don't wanna list them here.
See http://www.animelyrics.com/anime/haruhi/koyubidegyu.html for the lyrics.
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She's playing Kyon to an unknown [[Reality Warper]]. Think of Day of Sagittarius; if the boss goes down, the whole side goes down, so you don't put the boss where the enemy can see them. Quite possibly, Sasaki has already played her "trump card", and so can set up situations more to her liking than Kyon can. Also, aside from Kuyoh, this would make Sasaki's team a gender flip of Haruhi's; maybe the Sudou supposed to be organizing the middle school reunion is Evil Haruhi. The reason they need Kyon is to destabilize Haruhi enough that she can be taken out without her rewriting her own defeat.
 
== [[Azumanga Daioh (Manga)|Sakaki]] is Sasaki. ==
 
== Taniguchi and Kunikida will both be sliders ==
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== Kunikida and/or Taniguchi are Espers employed by the Orginzation ==
Tanigawa's love of making background characters [[ChekhovsChekhov's Gunman|Chekhov's Gunmen]] seems rather odd when [[Those Two Guys]] are considered in. Taniguchi and Kunikida have only acted as moron and milquetoast, respectively, while many other characters have turned out to be more than they appear. Kunikida always has the same smarmy grin as Koizumi, so throw that in, if you want.
* I wholly agree, simply because it's hinted that Taniguchi WAS involved with Haruhi earlier, and he says that Koizumi makes him uncomfortable; not to mention that Kunikida has quite a few knowing looks or grins in the novel.
** Someone from the organization had to keep an eye on Haruhi in middle school - a teacher could have done it, but a student could have gotten closer. Taniguchi did say he was in her class the whole time, and apparently tried to get close, so he fits. When they ended up in the same high school he was supposed to carry on as before, but overheard Harhui wanting a 'Mysterious Transfer Student', thus tipping off the organization to send in Itsuki, who would be able to get into the club Haruhi had set up. Kunikida, who went to middle school with Kyon, is only really likely to be an esper if Kyon is a/the real god, unless he's one of Sasaki's espers, and couldn't go with her because she entered an all-girl's school. However, the idea might just be the same as with the "Kyon as the real God/a slider" theory: it's much more fun if they're actually 100% human, because it's not what we're expecting - and it shows how special they are as characters that they can have even that much impact, and yet they're 100% ordinary humans (which is the case with almost NOBODY in the books, the only possible other exceptions being Tsuruya and Kyon's sister).
However, the idea might just be the same as with the "Kyon as the real God/a slider" theory: it's much more fun if they're actually 100% human, because it's not what we're expecting - and it shows how special they are as characters that they can have even that much impact, and yet they're 100% ordinary humans (which is the case with almost NOBODY in the books, the only possible other exceptions being Tsuruya and Kyon's sister).
*** And those two exceptions are pretty iffy if you buy into the theories that Tsuruya is a Slider/Kyon's Sister is Mikuru.
 
== Taniguchi is the devil and Kunikida is God and the entire series is the result of an Job type bet between them ==
* Taniguchi (the devil) bets Kunikida (God) that humans are selfish and evil creatures, Kunikida bets that humans are basically good and do care about other people. To see who is right Kunikida grants god-like reality warping power to the biggest jerkass Taniguchi can find (Haruhi) and Kunikida picks Kyon (the only one made immune to Haruhi's powers) as his champion to save Mikuru and the world from Haruhi, proving that there is at least one good person left in sodom.
*** Taniguchi being the devil would shine a whole new light on his spiel about how perhaps love is whats missing in his life, when he talks about the love taxi in the 2nd season "sigh" story arc.
 
== Arakawa is [[Luke, I Am Your Father|Taniguchi's Father]] ==
Hey, they look alike. Maybe Taniguchi's constant hitting on women is a side affect of a lack of a father figure. Alternatively, Arakawa was around to be a father to Taniguchi, but because he became an esper, [[Laser -Guided Amnesia|He erased his son's memories and disappeared.]]
* Or Taniguchi really is aparta part of the Esper faction...
 
== Mikuru isn't just a Time Lord she is [[Doctor Who (TV)|The Doctor herself]] ==
He always said he wanted to be ginger ...
 
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It could be that he had an unusual name, say, surname Ya from Chinese ancestry and personal name Nyan or (misread) ryan[sic] from a hebrew-speaking parent or parent who found western or mythological names interesting, or that his favorite snack was at one time YanYan (or someone called him that after an embarrassing incident involving chocolate creme) and he would [[Never Live It Down]].
 
== The Anti-SOS Brigade are [[Designated Villain|DesignatedVillains]]s. ==
Think about it; we don't really know much about them yet. Fujiwara is an asshole, but it seems to be a [[Well -Intentioned Extremist]]. Kyoko seems to be a kind individual, and only commits evil deeds on orders from her morally ambiguous leaders. Kuyoh seems entirely robotic, but it seems this is just because Sky Canopy Domain cannot comprehend a perfect ambassador to human thought processes.
* FINALLY, someone that comes to their aid! They're always inappropriately villainized in the community, when all the evidence points to them being Designated villains. It's clear that Kyoko is a caring person, who, like Fujiwara, believe they are doing the right thing. And Kuyoh... well, we don't know shit about her. In fact, Tanigawa probably doesn't either, considering how late the novels are...
 
== Sneering Bastard wants a chain reaction/paradox. ==
SB says it: he doesn't want time travel to exist. So he'll stop it. There are four ways to do this:
1.# Kill the creator of time travel - tried it, failed it.
2./3.# Stopping Kyon/Mikuru from saving the boy
4.# PreventingStopping HaruhiMikuru from givingsaving the boy time travel ideas.
# Preventing Haruhi from giving the boy time travel ideas.
He can only do any of these by being a hypocrite and traveling back in time.
If there is no time travel, Mikuru can't be sent back. If Mikuru isn't sent back, she can't take Kyon to 3 years ago. If Kyon doesn't go back to 3YA, Haruhi won't meet John Smith. If Haruhi doesn't meet John Smith, she goes to Koyouen. If she goes to Koyouen, we get a bored god-powered girl(Alt!Haruhi). But, if Haruhi is Alt!Haruhi, she might rewrite the universe out of boredom, bringing back the whole madness. Unless, he shares Kyoko's idea of Haruhi being a copy of Sasaki's powers, and thinks that the copying happened when she met John Smith. So if she never meets him, the SOS brigade won't exist. Yuki and Ryoko won't be sent to observe, Mikuru is out of the picture, the Organization isn't interested in Haruhi. However, all four parties (IDSE, SCD, the Organization and Kyoko's group) would turn to Sasaki.
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* Very few people would get Yuki to put down a book to study them.
* She'll join those other two goddesses in a [[Beauty, Brains, and Brawn]] trio of course.
 
== Kuyou is constantly improving, but has a non-linear mapping to the human time. ==
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== Kunikida is really a girl. ==
Think about it: he is much shorter and smaller than all the other guys. His voice hasn't changed "yet". And he isn't nearly as enthusiastic about the girls in the school as Kyon and Taniguchi are.
 
* If one did not know he was supposed to be in high school, they might think he was an elementary school student. Especially compared to Kyon, who looks like he should be in college, meaning appearance wise. Of course, the reason Kunikida would be going to the school as a guy would be unknown...
 
== Sasaki and Haruhi are sisters ==
 
* If Sasaki and Haruhi went to the same school, they may have lived in the same house before their parents were divorced.
 
* Sasaki introduced herself as an "old friend", it's possible that she knows that Haruhi may have forgotten who she is.
 
* Sasaki and Haruhi have sibling rivalries over Kyon.
 
* When Sasaki calls Kyon to meet with her privately in the Disassociation, preventing Fujiwara and Kyouko from eavesdropping on her which they might suspect that she's related to Haruhi.
 
* When Sasaki said she didn't want Haruhi's power despite that she always has her own, it possibly meant that she would forbid her own group from harming her own sibling with Kyon's support. If that happens, The Anti-SOS brigade would accuse her as a traitor and expose her being related to Haruhi.
 
* In the Disappearance and Bohemian Leaf Rhapsody, Haruhi wanted to start the SOS Brigade which in theory she wanted to be like Sasaki. It's possible that Sasaki may have been the one who formed the SOS Brigade instead of Haruhi before she formed the Anti-SOS Brigade. Maybe soon Sasaki would return to the SOS Brigade as a veteran.
 
* Their parents were the ones who caused the timelines to split into Alpha and Beta as a result of their divorce causing both Haruhi and Sasaki to be separated meaning that Sasaki and Haruhi are not gods but their parents were.
** [[Jossed]]
 
* Their inherited godlike powers from their parents are a curse. Sasaki said to Kyon that supernatural beings cannot exist meaning even if she and Haruhi are reunited one of them could cease to exist. Sasaki doesn't know that whether she or Haruhi can or cannot exist once both the alpha and beta timelines are merged.
 
* If Sasaki and Haruhi are reunited, then the original timeline would be restored and prevented to be broken again.
 
* If Sasaki was in Haruhi's closed space it would be up to her to calm her down instead of Kyon, finally revealing their relationship and about their godlike powers. Haruhi would then realized what she have done. Sasaki later on would train Haruhi to control her godlike powers.
 
* Sasaki and Haruhi may reunite one day as she could tell Kyon to take care of her sister until that day comes.
 
* Haruhi's parents are only her Father and Stepmother, while Sasaki's parents are only her mother and stepfather. There is a possibility that Haruhi's Father and Sasaki's mother may have decided to marry someone who is a normal human being.
 
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