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* '''The [[Foe Yay]] Fans''': They hate the show. They hate every one of the 42 hours per week they spend watching it. They hate every one of the 49 hours per week they spend blogging about it. They hate the crappy merchandise and only buy it all so that they can get a deeper knowledge of the many ways it's bad... It's the opposite of [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]. Being informed about the work so one isn't accused of [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]] [[Tropes Are Tools|is good,]] but this hater takes it overboard by spending more time obsessing over their object of hate than the fans do. Expect some of these people to use the [[Insane Troll Logic]] that somehow, ''because'' this show is still on, it affects the quality of the shows that ''they'' like. Corporate creators love this kind of [[Hate Dumb]] better than a lukewarm fandom -- it's more profitable, and gives them free advertisement. (They spread the show word of mouth, people actually see it to see how bad it really is...you get the picture.) In a nutshell; this is the kind of person who claims to have been lost as a customer; yet they keep buying from you again and again...and sometimes even brings in ''new'' customers who try out of [[Bile Fascination]] and discover [[Critical Backlash]] instead.
* '''The [[Foe Yay]] Fans''': They hate the show. They hate every one of the 42 hours per week they spend watching it. They hate every one of the 49 hours per week they spend blogging about it. They hate the crappy merchandise and only buy it all so that they can get a deeper knowledge of the many ways it's bad... It's the opposite of [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]. Being informed about the work so one isn't accused of [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]] [[Tropes Are Tools|is good,]] but this hater takes it overboard by spending more time obsessing over their object of hate than the fans do. Expect some of these people to use the [[Insane Troll Logic]] that somehow, ''because'' this show is still on, it affects the quality of the shows that ''they'' like. Corporate creators love this kind of [[Hate Dumb]] better than a lukewarm fandom -- it's more profitable, and gives them free advertisement. (They spread the show word of mouth, people actually see it to see how bad it really is...you get the picture.) In a nutshell; this is the kind of person who claims to have been lost as a customer; yet they keep buying from you again and again...and sometimes even brings in ''new'' customers who try out of [[Bile Fascination]] and discover [[Critical Backlash]] instead.
** '''[[I Was Just Passing Through]]:''' [[Foe Yay]] fans who claim, not just that they hate the show, but that they've found something better. Yet, no matter what, they are true to their original [[Hate Dumb]] despite the new show. Their perverse attachment to the old hated work is often stronger than that to the show they claim to be a fan of -- assuming they aren't Gushing About Shows They Don't Watch. These customers are like the above; but they make sure to let you know that your competitors are better...yet for some reason keep going back to you.
** '''[[I Was Just Passing Through]]:''' [[Foe Yay]] fans who claim, not just that they hate the show, but that they've found something better. Yet, no matter what, they are true to their original [[Hate Dumb]] despite the new show. Their perverse attachment to the old hated work is often stronger than that to the show they claim to be a fan of -- assuming they aren't Gushing About Shows They Don't Watch. These customers are like the above; but they make sure to let you know that your competitors are better...yet for some reason keep going back to you.
** '''The Revenge Troll''': This is a hater who is [[Foe Yay]] indeed, but they appear to have taken their hatred to [[Its Personal|personal levels]]. This may overlap with the '''Author Haters''' as well. Expect them to constantly wish for the work's demise, or for the author to retire, obsessing about it like they want revenge on something. They may often misblame the object of their hatred to have caused their favourite show to be canceled, or act more like [[You Killed My Father|the show or the author snuck into their house at night and murdered their family while they slept]]. However; in the more extreme examples, some people will even cross the [[Moral Event Horizon]], wishing not just cancellation on the show but wishing for the author or the creators of the show to have terrible things happen to them in real life. This is even more off-putting because they are wishing this on ''real people'', not just fictional characters.
** '''The Revenge Troll''': This is a hater who is [[Foe Yay]] indeed, but they appear to have taken their hatred to [[It's Personal|personal levels]]. This may overlap with the '''Author Haters''' as well. Expect them to constantly wish for the work's demise, or for the author to retire, obsessing about it like they want revenge on something. They may often misblame the object of their hatred to have caused their favourite show to be canceled, or act more like [[You Killed My Father|the show or the author snuck into their house at night and murdered their family while they slept]]. However; in the more extreme examples, some people will even cross the [[Moral Event Horizon]], wishing not just cancellation on the show but wishing for the author or the creators of the show to have terrible things happen to them in real life. This is even more off-putting because they are wishing this on ''real people'', not just fictional characters.


* '''Hipster Hater''': Often a [[Foe Yay]] fan. They insist that their obsession with the object of their hate is "ironic", or insist that any work which becomes mainstream has "sold out" and cannot be [[True Art]]: [[Its Popular Now It Sucks|if it's popular, it sucks.]] They cannot be an acknowledged fan to a popular work, so they are this instead. This tends to overlap with business hatred, too. Many of these guys will buy alternate brand names or other such stuff to "Stick it to the man". Expect many of these people to complain about businesses trying to make a profit, such as saying it is "unforgivable" that businesses *gasp* have terms of service or ask ''money'' for their works. Corporate creators have no problems with this sort of Hatedumb, either.
* '''Hipster Hater''': Often a [[Foe Yay]] fan. They insist that their obsession with the object of their hate is "ironic", or insist that any work which becomes mainstream has "sold out" and cannot be [[True Art]]: [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks|if it's popular, it sucks.]] They cannot be an acknowledged fan to a popular work, so they are this instead. This tends to overlap with business hatred, too. Many of these guys will buy alternate brand names or other such stuff to "Stick it to the man". Expect many of these people to complain about businesses trying to make a profit, such as saying it is "unforgivable" that businesses *gasp* have terms of service or ask ''money'' for their works. Corporate creators have no problems with this sort of Hatedumb, either.
** '''The [[Straw Critic|Art Critic]]''': Holy crap, look at this [insert media here]! It's got action and no drama and no symbolism! It's trash appealing to the [[Lowest Common Denominator]] and the reason (insert culture here) is turning into morons! There's no art in it! Some decry video games for "instant gratification" or music for shallow lyrics, but regardless, they'll sound like stereotypes of snobby art-house types. Sometimes, these guys are even ''more'' harsh on works that are [[Looking a Gift Horse In The Mouth|distributed for free]] or something they pirated like video games or movies.
** '''The [[Straw Critic|Art Critic]]''': Holy crap, look at this [insert media here]! It's got action and no drama and no symbolism! It's trash appealing to the [[Lowest Common Denominator]] and the reason (insert culture here) is turning into morons! There's no art in it! Some decry video games for "instant gratification" or music for shallow lyrics, but regardless, they'll sound like stereotypes of snobby art-house types. Sometimes, these guys are even ''more'' harsh on works that are [[Looking a Gift Horse In The Mouth|distributed for free]] or something they pirated like video games or movies.


* '''Pop Culture Snob''': The opposite of the Hipster Hater, they actively avoid anything outside a narrow range of popular shows. Anything foreign is "too weird." [[Sci Fi Ghetto|Anything Sci Fi is meaningless and geeky]]. Anything over five years old is "for old people". Anything involving an animal must be [[Yiff]]. Often overlaps with [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]. The inverse of [[Its Popular Now It Sucks]]. Their battle cry is '''It's Unpopular, So It Sucks'''.
* '''Pop Culture Snob''': The opposite of the Hipster Hater, they actively avoid anything outside a narrow range of popular shows. Anything foreign is "too weird." [[Sci Fi Ghetto|Anything Sci Fi is meaningless and geeky]]. Anything over five years old is "for old people". Anything involving an animal must be [[Yiff]]. Often overlaps with [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]. The inverse of [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks]]. Their battle cry is '''It's Unpopular, So It Sucks'''.


* '''The [[Fandom Rivalry|Rival Fan]]''': This hater ''loves'' a work. Just... not this one. They belong to some fandom with a long-standing [[Fandom Rivalry|rivalry]] with the work they don't like. They tend to insist that the object of their hate is a shoddy knockoff of their show, even when it's completely different. They also insist that [[No True Scotsman|No]] [[True Fan]] of their show [[You Fail Logic Forever|could ever like both their show and the show they hate]]. These guys may often invoke [[They Copied It So It Sucks|accusations of other works attempting to ride on their show's popularity or success]] This overlaps with [[Fan Dumb]]. It can also happen ''[[Broken Base|within]]'' fandoms. Compare the haters who think '''[[Its the Same So It Sucks|everything is the same]]'''; they could perhaps be called twin [[Hate Dumb]].
* '''The [[Fandom Rivalry|Rival Fan]]''': This hater ''loves'' a work. Just... not this one. They belong to some fandom with a long-standing [[Fandom Rivalry|rivalry]] with the work they don't like. They tend to insist that the object of their hate is a shoddy knockoff of their show, even when it's completely different. They also insist that [[No True Scotsman|No]] [[True Fan]] of their show [[You Fail Logic Forever|could ever like both their show and the show they hate]]. These guys may often invoke [[They Copied It, So It Sucks|accusations of other works attempting to ride on their show's popularity or success]] This overlaps with [[Fan Dumb]]. It can also happen ''[[Broken Base|within]]'' fandoms. Compare the haters who think '''[[Its the Same So It Sucks|everything is the same]]'''; they could perhaps be called twin [[Hate Dumb]].
** Overlapping very heavily with this is the '''[[Hypocritical Fandom|Hypocrite fan]]'''. This type of fan is from Fandom Rivalry more often than not, but they often hate trait(s) of other shows/genres, but at the same time, ''their'' own work does the exact same thing, too.
** Overlapping very heavily with this is the '''[[Hypocritical Fandom|Hypocrite fan]]'''. This type of fan is from Fandom Rivalry more often than not, but they often hate trait(s) of other shows/genres, but at the same time, ''their'' own work does the exact same thing, too.


* '''The Hate Monger''': A kind of [[Hate Dumb]] that exists around specific characters within a work. They may or may not be a fan of that work itself, but they will not tolerate the existence of the specific characters at ''all''. Whenever the character is even put into [[Character Focus|focus,]] the hater will be the first to cry "[[Spot Light Stealing Squad]]!" They also use the "[[Mary Sue]]" label as a weapon and declare the character they do not like a [[Mary Sue]]. It does not matter if the character really is a [[Mary Sue]]; nor does it matter if the hate monger has [[You Keep Using That Word|any idea what a Mary Sue is supposed to be]] -- these people have devalued the term. Even if they are right about the character taking too much screentime, their hatred of that character impairs their common sense. [[Fan Hater|They will not allow the character to have fans]] [[Ron the Death Eater|if they can help it]]. Hate Mongers have also been known to call "[[Wangst]]" (or a synonym thereof) on someone being justifiably sad... Sometimes, the Hate Monger is a bitter result of [[Die for Our Ship]] or [[Fandom Rivalry]] around a specific character, hating a character because they want to see more of one they like. [[The Scrappy]] is a common target by definition. Someone who tends to be made a [[Draco in Leather Pants]] is also a frequent target, even if the voice of moderation tries to speak up. Often a subset of The Mad Bride/Groom, as pairings and [[OT Ps]] tend to have ''someone'' [[Murder the Hypotenuse|lose out]].
* '''The Hate Monger''': A kind of [[Hate Dumb]] that exists around specific characters within a work. They may or may not be a fan of that work itself, but they will not tolerate the existence of the specific characters at ''all''. Whenever the character is even put into [[Character Focus|focus,]] the hater will be the first to cry "[[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]!" They also use the "[[Mary Sue]]" label as a weapon and declare the character they do not like a [[Mary Sue]]. It does not matter if the character really is a [[Mary Sue]]; nor does it matter if the hate monger has [[You Keep Using That Word|any idea what a Mary Sue is supposed to be]] -- these people have devalued the term. Even if they are right about the character taking too much screentime, their hatred of that character impairs their common sense. [[Fan Hater|They will not allow the character to have fans]] [[Ron the Death Eater|if they can help it]]. Hate Mongers have also been known to call "[[Wangst]]" (or a synonym thereof) on someone being justifiably sad... Sometimes, the Hate Monger is a bitter result of [[Die for Our Ship]] or [[Fandom Rivalry]] around a specific character, hating a character because they want to see more of one they like. [[The Scrappy]] is a common target by definition. Someone who tends to be made a [[Draco in Leather Pants]] is also a frequent target, even if the voice of moderation tries to speak up. Often a subset of The Mad Bride/Groom, as pairings and [[OT Ps]] tend to have ''someone'' [[Murder the Hypotenuse|lose out]].
** '''The Mad Homophobe''': A type of Hate Monger who frequently throws around accusations of homosexuality, mostly [[You Keep Using That Word|Gay]]. Typically, this is the first thing they say about a character, is that they are gay with little justifications. Someone is best friends with a member of the same sex? They're gay lovers. Someone isn't interested in romance? They're gay. Someone is Asexual? They're gay. Someone is masculine? They're gay. Guy is Bishounen? He's gay. Anyone was portrayed as gay by Fans? They're canonically gay. Often bizarre versions of Love Makes You Hateful - they'll be fine with any romance ''as long as it's not gay''. If it is - oops, not for kids, or HOLY FUCK NOT CANON!!
** '''The Mad Homophobe''': A type of Hate Monger who frequently throws around accusations of homosexuality, mostly [[You Keep Using That Word|Gay]]. Typically, this is the first thing they say about a character, is that they are gay with little justifications. Someone is best friends with a member of the same sex? They're gay lovers. Someone isn't interested in romance? They're gay. Someone is Asexual? They're gay. Someone is masculine? They're gay. Guy is Bishounen? He's gay. Anyone was portrayed as gay by Fans? They're canonically gay. Often bizarre versions of Love Makes You Hateful - they'll be fine with any romance ''as long as it's not gay''. If it is - oops, not for kids, or HOLY FUCK NOT CANON!!
** '''Love Makes You Hateful''': A mutation of The Mad Bride/Groom, these are usually self-proclaimed ex-fans who ragequit fandom when their favorite pairing was [[joss|jossed]], or worse, made fun of - whether or not the creator actually insulted pairings or not. [[Hate Fic]], [[Die for Our Ship]], all those good fandom-ruining stereotypes can be traced back to these brand of crazies.
** '''Love Makes You Hateful''': A mutation of The Mad Bride/Groom, these are usually self-proclaimed ex-fans who ragequit fandom when their favorite pairing was [[joss|jossed]], or worse, made fun of - whether or not the creator actually insulted pairings or not. [[Hate Fic]], [[Die for Our Ship]], all those good fandom-ruining stereotypes can be traced back to these brand of crazies.
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** '''The Mad Editor''': This is a subspecies of the above. This person frequently suggests a complete rewrite of the work, but they view it as improving it, even if it involves Flanderizing or Bowlderizing the work, [[Character Derailment|completely derailing the characters]], or [[In Name Only|complete genre-shifts and abandoning the work in its entirety]]. This very often overlaps with the [[Periphery Hatedom|Periphery Hate Dumb]]. These people often break out in vicious flamewars with types of [[Fan Dumb]], making it [[Gray and Gray Morality|hard to discern who is who.]] Remember; constructive criticism is an attempt to tell the creator how they can do it better the way ''they'' want to, not how ''you'' want to.
** '''The Mad Editor''': This is a subspecies of the above. This person frequently suggests a complete rewrite of the work, but they view it as improving it, even if it involves Flanderizing or Bowlderizing the work, [[Character Derailment|completely derailing the characters]], or [[In Name Only|complete genre-shifts and abandoning the work in its entirety]]. This very often overlaps with the [[Periphery Hatedom|Periphery Hate Dumb]]. These people often break out in vicious flamewars with types of [[Fan Dumb]], making it [[Gray and Gray Morality|hard to discern who is who.]] Remember; constructive criticism is an attempt to tell the creator how they can do it better the way ''they'' want to, not how ''you'' want to.


* '''[[Its the Same Now It Sucks|Everything is the same]]''': These haters are commonly known for having a minimalistic view of fandoms they don't belong to. Sometimes, entire franchises or genres will attract these types of haters. They will pull the "It's the exact same as this"-card, sometimes [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|without even seeing it]]. They sometimes have no moderate or casual likes; they view ''everything'' they aren't an outright fan of narrowly. For instance, somebody who does ''not'' like High-School dramas might view every show set in high school as being like ''Degrassi''. Note that, in such a case, it is possible that they ''like'' ''Degrassi'' and just think all the others are redundant (since they're the same) and thus pointless -- in which case, they're likely a '''Rival Fan'''. Many times, they invoke the "[[They Copied It So It Sucks]]" card and accuse ''everything'' of being a ripoff of something they consider quality.
* '''[[It's the Same, Now It Sucks|Everything is the same]]''': These haters are commonly known for having a minimalistic view of fandoms they don't belong to. Sometimes, entire franchises or genres will attract these types of haters. They will pull the "It's the exact same as this"-card, sometimes [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|without even seeing it]]. They sometimes have no moderate or casual likes; they view ''everything'' they aren't an outright fan of narrowly. For instance, somebody who does ''not'' like High-School dramas might view every show set in high school as being like ''Degrassi''. Note that, in such a case, it is possible that they ''like'' ''Degrassi'' and just think all the others are redundant (since they're the same) and thus pointless -- in which case, they're likely a '''Rival Fan'''. Many times, they invoke the "[[They Copied It, So It Sucks]]" card and accuse ''everything'' of being a ripoff of something they consider quality.


* '''[[Stop Having Fun Guys]]''': The [[Stop Having Fun Guys]] will insist that everyone else is doing it wrong. They not only hate the other fans who enjoy it a specific way, but will also insult ''other haters''. These people are often known for having ''very'' specific single-issue criteria when they pick something new, which causes them to have ridiculously high standards. In the worst cases, they'll join a Hatedom because the work they tried to be a fan of was too...''different'' from what they normally like; instead of trying to adapt, they claim it to be crap and that [[Fan Hater|everyone who likes it doesn't know what true fun is]]. Some of these people will go on tangents explaining ''one'' situation they had with a game and then insisting the entire game is like that. Many times; the hatred of new editions, updates, or sequels consist of these people who complain about how the developers are "punishing skill" amongst other things because they assessed widely exploited glitches and shortcomings. Read the article for some more specific examples.
* '''[["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]]''': The [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]] will insist that everyone else is doing it wrong. They not only hate the other fans who enjoy it a specific way, but will also insult ''other haters''. These people are often known for having ''very'' specific single-issue criteria when they pick something new, which causes them to have ridiculously high standards. In the worst cases, they'll join a Hatedom because the work they tried to be a fan of was too...''different'' from what they normally like; instead of trying to adapt, they claim it to be crap and that [[Fan Hater|everyone who likes it doesn't know what true fun is]]. Some of these people will go on tangents explaining ''one'' situation they had with a game and then insisting the entire game is like that. Many times; the hatred of new editions, updates, or sequels consist of these people who complain about how the developers are "punishing skill" amongst other things because they assessed widely exploited glitches and shortcomings. Read the article for some more specific examples.


* '''Nostalgia Inversion''': Nostalgia Inversion is when [[Hype Backlash]], [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]],and [[Did Not Do the Research]] mix. The hater refuses to realize that something wasn't made in the present day, and refuses to make allowance for it. They cannot put themselves in the correct mindset to watch a work made before its genre got deconstructed. Or they expect special effects to look the same in the '50s as in the '00s.
* '''Nostalgia Inversion''': Nostalgia Inversion is when [[Hype Backlash]], [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]],and [[Did Not Do the Research]] mix. The hater refuses to realize that something wasn't made in the present day, and refuses to make allowance for it. They cannot put themselves in the correct mindset to watch a work made before its genre got deconstructed. Or they expect special effects to look the same in the '50s as in the '00s.
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* '''The Crusader''': Hating something is [[Serious Business]] to these people; it is practically their life's mission is to spread the message of [[Hatedom]] around. The Crusader is frequently launching [[Flame War|Holy wars]] against forums, sometimes even organizing spam-raids on forums, or frequently derailing threads to state why ''they'' think it sucks.
* '''The Crusader''': Hating something is [[Serious Business]] to these people; it is practically their life's mission is to spread the message of [[Hatedom]] around. The Crusader is frequently launching [[Flame War|Holy wars]] against forums, sometimes even organizing spam-raids on forums, or frequently derailing threads to state why ''they'' think it sucks.


* '''The Purist''': One of the most wide encompassing forms of [[Hate Dumb]], and arguably, an unholy abomination of ''multiple'' kinds of Haters rolled into one entitled person. Purists have an ideal vision on how a franchise can go, but sometimes, Purists can go ''several'' steps beyond just having an ideal view of a franchise. '''The Purist''' can ''also'' have an idealized view of ''the fandom'' of a particular franchise, and even in worst cases, the ''entire market''. Naturally, many of these guys [[Fan Hater|tend to hate franchises based solely off of the fans themselves]], often citing the fandom as one of the reasons they dislike a franchise, sometimes not even giving it a chance. The Purist also does not stop at just hating fans, but also, they believe that they are the centre (And largest contributer) of the entire market, thus, any and all executive decisions should not be made without consulting them first. Any new demographic being brought into the market, or a simple shift in demographic will not only get the [[Fan Dumb]] crying, but also the haters, because they will ''hate'' these newcomers to the market with almost every passion of their being. Because The Purist has a ''very'' idealised vision of their own fandom; naturally, they are often the type to declare new fans to [[No True Scotsman|"not be true fans"]] of the series, any new entries to [[Fanon Discontinuity|"not be true entries]]". ''VERY'' prone to [[They Changed It Now It Sucks]]-type arguments. There are also versions of the Purist who will simply point out any shift/expansion in demographic to be a reason ''why'' it sucks. Amongst long essays about how new Johnny-Come-Latelys have ruined the market/fandom/show forever, as well as how it was better when it wasn't popular, also expect Slippery Slope type arguments about ''why'' it is bad, and how they expect [[Follow the Leader]] to come against them. (Once more, mentioning a ''similar'' argument about any [[Follow the Leader]] type stuff against ''your'' interests will not be responded to, at best, or countered with an essay on how wrong you are and how you have no taste, if not a [[Hand Wave]].)
* '''The Purist''': One of the most wide encompassing forms of [[Hate Dumb]], and arguably, an unholy abomination of ''multiple'' kinds of Haters rolled into one entitled person. Purists have an ideal vision on how a franchise can go, but sometimes, Purists can go ''several'' steps beyond just having an ideal view of a franchise. '''The Purist''' can ''also'' have an idealized view of ''the fandom'' of a particular franchise, and even in worst cases, the ''entire market''. Naturally, many of these guys [[Fan Hater|tend to hate franchises based solely off of the fans themselves]], often citing the fandom as one of the reasons they dislike a franchise, sometimes not even giving it a chance. The Purist also does not stop at just hating fans, but also, they believe that they are the centre (And largest contributer) of the entire market, thus, any and all executive decisions should not be made without consulting them first. Any new demographic being brought into the market, or a simple shift in demographic will not only get the [[Fan Dumb]] crying, but also the haters, because they will ''hate'' these newcomers to the market with almost every passion of their being. Because The Purist has a ''very'' idealised vision of their own fandom; naturally, they are often the type to declare new fans to [[No True Scotsman|"not be true fans"]] of the series, any new entries to [[Fanon Discontinuity|"not be true entries]]". ''VERY'' prone to [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]-type arguments. There are also versions of the Purist who will simply point out any shift/expansion in demographic to be a reason ''why'' it sucks. Amongst long essays about how new Johnny-Come-Latelys have ruined the market/fandom/show forever, as well as how it was better when it wasn't popular, also expect Slippery Slope type arguments about ''why'' it is bad, and how they expect [[Follow the Leader]] to come against them. (Once more, mentioning a ''similar'' argument about any [[Follow the Leader]] type stuff against ''your'' interests will not be responded to, at best, or countered with an essay on how wrong you are and how you have no taste, if not a [[Hand Wave]].)


* '''Stealth Fans''': These are not truly haters, but rather fans, who appeal to the large Hatedom of their object of obsession in order to spread the word. They will derail every thread, come up with the lamest of jokes and in general, will do anything to put the alleged object of their hate into the center of attention. [[Fan Hater|Fan Haters]] will generally take the bait, and what was before a previously completely unrelated topic, will now be derailed into a discussion over how horrible that certain thing is. Not only does the corporate world love these guys, many of them are actually [[Astroturfing|corporate agents themselves]], actively involved in viral marketing.
* '''Stealth Fans''': These are not truly haters, but rather fans, who appeal to the large Hatedom of their object of obsession in order to spread the word. They will derail every thread, come up with the lamest of jokes and in general, will do anything to put the alleged object of their hate into the center of attention. [[Fan Hater|Fan Haters]] will generally take the bait, and what was before a previously completely unrelated topic, will now be derailed into a discussion over how horrible that certain thing is. Not only does the corporate world love these guys, many of them are actually [[Astroturfing|corporate agents themselves]], actively involved in viral marketing.
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