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{{quote|''Of course, a lot of the [[Hate Dumb|people]] who wrote those fics figured [[Deconstruction Fic|"Deconstruct"]] meant "have your [[Marty Stu]] come in and [[Kill'Em All|shoot everybody]] while [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|insulting them.]]"''|''Binaroid: from [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/archived_discussion.php?s_t=Main.RevengeFic Revenge Fic Discussion]''}}
{{quote|''Of course, a lot of the [[Hate Dumb|people]] who wrote those fics figured [[Deconstruction Fic|"Deconstruct"]] meant "have your [[Marty Stu]] come in and [[Kill'Em All|shoot everybody]] while [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|insulting them.]]"''|''Binaroid: from [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/archived_discussion.php?s_t=Main.RevengeFic Revenge Fic Discussion]''}}


Simply put, [[Hate Fic]] is [[Revenge Fic]] on a series-wide scale. The author sets out to deliberately attack an entire show, either through simply mocking it and its characters or by the techniques of [[Deconstruction]].
Simply put, '''Hate Fic''' is [[Revenge Fic]] on a series-wide scale. The author sets out to deliberately attack an entire show, either through simply mocking it and its characters or by the techniques of [[Deconstruction]].


When done poorly, this often takes the form of a badly-done [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny]], which attempts to discredit a show based on unfavorable comparison with another rather than by any serious examination of the target series's actual flaws.
When done poorly, this often takes the form of a badly-done [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny]], which attempts to discredit a show based on unfavorable comparison with another rather than by any serious examination of the target series's actual flaws.
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** These days, it's generally met with either admiration or derisive laughter.
** These days, it's generally met with either admiration or derisive laughter.
** There are even a few fanfics written that are hate fics against hate fics. An example includes ''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6362692/1/Kyrie_Eleison Kyrie Eleison]'', which from the first paragraph states it was written to deconstruct fics like ''[[Neon Exodus Evangelion]]''.
** There are even a few fanfics written that are hate fics against hate fics. An example includes ''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6362692/1/Kyrie_Eleison Kyrie Eleison]'', which from the first paragraph states it was written to deconstruct fics like ''[[Neon Exodus Evangelion]]''.
* ''Chunin Exam'' and ''Partially Kissed Hero'' by Perfect LionHeart (aka Jared "Skysaber" Ornstead) are both this in their core (for ''[[Naruto]]'' and ''[[Harry Potter]]'' respectively)... at least when they are not spewing his [[Evil Versus Evil|morality]] and [[Disproportionate Retribution|sense of "justice" and revenge]]. They tend to abound with [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsters]] (including the protagonists), [[Straw Loser|Straw Losers]], massive powerups, [[Plot Hole|plotholes]], [[Author Filibuster|long lectures of what sucks]] from the [[Canon]] and why, torturing/mutating the characters into copies of how they "should be" and loads and loads of cynicism. Fans are divided between those who believe the guy is a genius level writer (both fics have over 10,000 reviews) and the rest who believe he is pure evil and a deranged psychopath with very few touches of the actual canon.
* ''Chunin Exam'' and ''Partially Kissed Hero'' by Perfect LionHeart (aka Jared "Skysaber" Ornstead) are both this in their core (for ''[[Naruto]]'' and ''[[Harry Potter]]'' respectively)... at least when they are not spewing his [[Evil Versus Evil|morality]] and [[Disproportionate Retribution|sense of "justice" and revenge]]. They tend to abound with [[Complete Monster]]s (including the protagonists), [[Straw Loser]]s, massive powerups, [[Plot Hole|plotholes]], [[Author Filibuster|long lectures of what sucks]] from the [[Canon]] and why, torturing/mutating the characters into copies of how they "should be" and loads and loads of cynicism. Fans are divided between those who believe the guy is a genius level writer (both fics have over 10,000 reviews) and the rest who believe he is pure evil and a deranged psychopath with very few touches of the actual canon.
* A fanfiction of the video game ''Clock Tower 2: The Struggle Within'' had all the characters slaughtered by the characters from ''Clock Tower 1''. ''The Struggle Within'' is probably the least popular of the ''Clock Tower'' games.
* A fanfiction of the video game ''Clock Tower 2: The Struggle Within'' had all the characters slaughtered by the characters from ''Clock Tower 1''. ''The Struggle Within'' is probably the least popular of the ''Clock Tower'' games.
* In the aftermath of DC Comics' [[Crisis Crossover]], ''[[Final Crisis]]'', the internet saw a great torrent of hate fics for it, not to mention the run on Batman that [[Grant Morrison]] wrote. The most common criticisms for this is "I do not understand it, therefore I hate and mock it" which is actually [[Completely Missing the Point|a minor theme in the story]]. People don't seem to realize that this wasn't done by Grant "''Justice League'' and ''New X-Men''" Morrison, but rather was written by Grant "''[[Animal Man]]'' and ''[[Doom Patrol]]'' (or ''read this multiple times to fully appreciate/understand it''), telling a chapter in an epic story that acknowledges all that was written before" Morrison.
* In the aftermath of DC Comics' [[Crisis Crossover]], ''[[Final Crisis]]'', the internet saw a great torrent of hate fics for it, not to mention the run on Batman that [[Grant Morrison]] wrote. The most common criticisms for this is "I do not understand it, therefore I hate and mock it" which is actually [[Completely Missing the Point|a minor theme in the story]]. People don't seem to realize that this wasn't done by Grant "''Justice League'' and ''New X-Men''" Morrison, but rather was written by Grant "''[[Animal Man]]'' and ''[[Doom Patrol]]'' (or ''read this multiple times to fully appreciate/understand it''), telling a chapter in an epic story that acknowledges all that was written before" Morrison.
* ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]'' gets this treatment [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5954408/1/Killing_the_Cullens a lot], to the point where around half of the fics listed in the recs page are these.
* ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]'' gets this treatment [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5954408/1/Killing_the_Cullens a lot], to the point where around half of the fics listed in the recs page are these.
* ''[[The Inheritance Cycle]]'', with ''[[The Storm Dragons]]'' among the most well-known examples.
* ''[[The Inheritance Cycle]]'', with ''[[The Storm Dragons]]'' among the most well-known examples.
* The ones for ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' are the stuff of legend, especially Nav's work. Highlights include one where the Senshi have taken over the world with mind control and are all (about 5 dozen of them) killed by [[Metroid|Samus Aran]], most without even being mentioned by name, and repeated recurrences of Tuxedo Mask being the only one to put up a fight or the Sailors just giving up before the battle even starts because he's not there -- despite these almost universally being based on the anime, where he doesn't even get any ''attacks'', and can just throw roses and give speeches.
* The ones for ''[[Sailor Moon]]'' are the stuff of legend, especially Nav's work. Highlights include one where the Senshi have taken over the world with mind control and are all (about 5 dozen of them) killed by [[Metroid|Samus Aran]], most without even being mentioned by name, and repeated recurrences of Tuxedo Mask being the only one to put up a fight or the Sailors just giving up before the battle even starts because he's not there—despite these almost universally being based on the anime, where he doesn't even get any ''attacks'', and can just throw roses and give speeches.
* ''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5433094/1/The_Doorstop The Doorstop]'' is one directed at another fanfic, ''[[The Open Door]]'', which, if you've heard of it, likely know it's a bit...divisive for readers. Iolaus, the author, read it, and decided he could tell the story better - so he did so, flipping the perspective away from New Chaos and to the more heroic factions, as well as numerous other changes. The result is a bit more even-handed than other examples on this page, although some reviews would claim otherwise.
* ''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5433094/1/The_Doorstop The Doorstop]'' is one directed at another fanfic, ''[[The Open Door]]'', which, if you've heard of it, likely know it's a bit...divisive for readers. Iolaus, the author, read it, and decided he could tell the story better - so he did so, flipping the perspective away from New Chaos and to the more heroic factions, as well as numerous other changes. The result is a bit more even-handed than other examples on this page, although some reviews would claim otherwise.
* ''Anything'' written by Sidneylovesdaleks.
* ''Anything'' written by Sidneylovesdaleks.
* The Federation from ''[[Star Trek]]'', especially after ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'', is frequently portrayed as a [[Red Scare|semi-communist dystopia]], only averting the worst horrors of the stereotype due to their [[Applied Phlebotinum]]. The website StarDestroyer.net is famous for [[Flame War|advocating and supporting this view]], as seen in [http://stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html this essay].
* The Federation from ''[[Star Trek]]'', especially after ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'', is frequently portrayed as a [[Red Scare|semi-communist dystopia]], only averting the worst horrors of the stereotype due to their [[Applied Phlebotinum]]. The website StarDestroyer.net is famous for [[Flame War|advocating and supporting this view]], as seen in [http://stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html this essay].
** This [http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=75690 fanfic(?)] shows how the Federation could go from the ''TOS'' to ''TNG'' in a disturbingly realistic way.
** This [http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=75690 fanfic(?)] shows how the Federation could go from the ''TOS'' to ''TNG'' in a disturbingly realistic way.
* One day, an angry ''[[Voltes V]]'' fanboy decided to take ''[[Voltron]]'' and its characters, replace their canon heroic personalities with countless [[The War On Straw|straw attributes]], mostly the [[Demonization]] kind; get Voltes V and countless other [[Super Robot|Super Robots]] plus ''[[Space Sheriff Shaider]]'' to always hand the Voltron Team's asses to them; repeat the same formula for the next 84 chapters; and the internet got [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3234823/1/Voltes_V_versus_Voltron_The_Godaikin_Wars Voltes V Versus Voltron: The Godaikin Wars].
* One day, an angry ''[[Voltes V]]'' fanboy decided to take ''[[Voltron]]'' and its characters, replace their canon heroic personalities with countless [[The War On Straw|straw attributes]], mostly the [[Demonization]] kind; get Voltes V and countless other [[Super Robot]]s plus ''[[Space Sheriff Shaider]]'' to always hand the Voltron Team's asses to them; repeat the same formula for the next 84 chapters; and the internet got [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3234823/1/Voltes_V_versus_Voltron_The_Godaikin_Wars Voltes V Versus Voltron: The Godaikin Wars].
* ''Right Behind'' for ''[[Left Behind]]''.
* ''Right Behind'' for ''[[Left Behind]]''.
* A strange case with ''[[Brewdening Love]]'' and its [[Brewdening Love Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]]. The fanfic in question is a [[Troll Fic]] by a ''[[Twilight]]'' fan who hates [[Canon Sue|Bella]]. ''Twilight'' [[Hatedom|anti-fans]] took this fic and wrote [[Recursive Fanfiction|fanfic of it]], mostly featuring [[Portmanteau Couple Name|Bru]][[Fan-Preferred Couple|go]] [[Slash Fic|slash]]. So we have hatefics of a fanfic that hates on Bella and Jacob. ''Then'', Author Erin Locklea added [[Revenge Fic]] chapters that put internet critics into the story and had them killed, so the circle is now complete.
* A strange case with ''[[Brewdening Love]]'' and its [[Brewdening Love Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]]. The fanfic in question is a [[Troll Fic]] by a ''[[Twilight]]'' fan who hates [[Canon Sue|Bella]]. ''Twilight'' [[Hatedom|anti-fans]] took this fic and wrote [[Recursive Fanfiction|fanfic of it]], mostly featuring [[Portmanteau Couple Name|Bru]][[Fan-Preferred Couple|go]] [[Slash Fic|slash]]. So we have hatefics of a fanfic that hates on Bella and Jacob. ''Then'', Author Erin Locklea added [[Revenge Fic]] chapters that put internet critics into the story and had them killed, so the circle is now complete.
* A truly bizarre case with ''[[My Little Unicorn|My Little Unicorn: Magic is Believing]]'', a [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]] [[Mind Screw|fanfic-that-isn't-a-fanfic]] written by an author who makes no secret of his loathing for the show and its themes.
* A truly bizarre case with ''[[My Little Unicorn|My Little Unicorn: Magic is Believing]]'', a [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]] [[Mind Screw|fanfic-that-isn't-a-fanfic]] written by an author who makes no secret of his loathing for the show and its themes.
* [[Hate Dumb|Some person disappointed about]] [[Invader Zim]]'s [[Too Good to Last|cancelled]] [[Hate Dumb|decided that it was]] [[Insane Troll Logic|somehow]] all [[The Fairly Odd Parents]] fault and as a result, created [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6955222/1/Invader_Zims_Revenge this (dead) fic] right here. The real reason<ref> it was low ratings, [[Nightmare Fuel]], and [[Executive Meddling]] that killed Zim, not Timmy Turner, not to mention the fact that [[Fairly Oddparents]] debuted at almost the same time as the show, and the preemption could have for [[SpongeBob SquarePants|any other show]]</ref> [[WTH Player|was pointed out]], but seemed to have been ignored.
* [[Hate Dumb|Some person disappointed about]] [[Invader Zim]]'s [[Too Good to Last|cancelled]] [[Hate Dumb|decided that it was]] [[Insane Troll Logic|somehow]] all [[The Fairly Odd Parents]] fault and as a result, created [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6955222/1/Invader_Zims_Revenge this (dead) fic] right here. The real reason<ref>it was low ratings, [[Nightmare Fuel]], and [[Executive Meddling]] that killed Zim, not Timmy Turner, not to mention the fact that [[Fairly Oddparents]] debuted at almost the same time as the show, and the preemption could have for [[SpongeBob SquarePants|any other show]]</ref> [[WTH Player|was pointed out]], but seemed to have been ignored.


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