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** He was also originally going to review ''[[Matilda (film)|Matilda]]'', but when he first announced it, his fanbase heavily criticized him, so he simply stopped it altogether.

** He did do another Roald Dahl movie, [[James and the Giant Peach]]. He was aware many of his fans liked it, and since he was trying (in character at least) to appease his fans after the poorly received [[Let's Play]] from the week before, he did the whole review in [[Happiness Is Mandatory]] fashion. Or ''tried'' to...

{{quote|'''James:''' [[That Cloud Looks Like...|And that cloud looks like a train!]]

'''Critic:''' And that cloud looks like [[Conspicuous CG|a crappy CGI effect]] *[[Dramatic Gun Cock]] from 6 directions around the critic* I mean... [[Blatant Lies|a good CGI effect]]. }}

** Even though the video was to get attention for a horrible censorship bill that could destroy his livelihood, people with rather [[Skewed Priorities]] are rather angry that he called ''[[Digimon]]'' a horrible show.

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** Speaking of Spoony, he got so much heat from the ''[[Hudson Hawk]]'' fanbase when he announced his intent to review the movie that he cancelled the review, letting Film Brain do it instead. That's right. A semi-obscure early-90s Bruce Willis movie has a more terrifying fanbase than ''[[Final Fantasy]]''.

** By season 2 it seems Film Brain has come to expect this response for movies with high IMDB ratings, as his review of ''[[Seven Pounds]]'' began with a disclaimer to the effect of "This will be controversial, so please keep your comments constructive". [[Subverted Trope|The review went over quite well.]]

** His crossover review with [[~~Jesu Otaku~~]] for [[Sucker Punch]] also got hit by this. The comments by many (though not all) of the movie's fans are divided between "You just don't get it" and "Just turn your brain off and enjoy it".

** His crossover review with [[JesuOtaku]] for [[Sucker Punch]] also got hit by this. The comments by many (though not all) of the movie's fans are divided between "You just don't get it" and "Just turn your brain off and enjoy it".

** Inverted by his review of ''[[Tooth Fairy]]''. He stated that he doesn't normally do kid's films and expected people to tear into him for criticizing it. Instead, people applauded him for ripping the film apart; praising the review.

* ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' took serious flack from other science fiction fans when [[The Movie]] riffed on sci-fi classic ''[[This Island Earth]]''.

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*** Leonard was a good sport about it though and showed up next season to help Pearl inflict [[Gorgo]] on Mike and the Bots.

* Inverted with ''Entertainment Weekly'' magazine critic Owen Gleiberman, who faced much criticism for being the sole critic on [[Rotten Tomatoes]] to give ''[[Seltzer and Friedberg|Epic Movie]]'' a positive review—which would probably be a case of He ''Didn't'' Pan It, Now He Sucks.

** In an odd subversion, Owen's review of [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ratatouille/comments.php?reviewid=1640717 [[Ratatouille]]] counts. Although Owen gave the 96% scoring movie a modest rating (a "B"), he was mainly insulted from his comment about how celebrity voice actors are superior to lesser known actors. This remark drew a TON of heat, especially since ''Ratatouille'' was released a year after Pixar's arguably weakest film, ''[[Cars]]'', a movie ''full'' of celebrity voice actors. Without that one misguided remark, Owen's review doesn't reflect as badly on the seasoned film critic. Somewhat [[Vindicated by History]] though, since Owen gave Pixar's ''[[WALL-E]]'' and ''[[Toy Story]] 3'' "A" scores, and since the Pixar fanbase doesn't defend the film as heavily years later.

** In an odd subversion, Owen's review of [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ratatouille/comments.php?reviewid=1640717 [[Ratatouille]]] counts. Although Owen gave the 96% scoring movie a modest rating (a "B"), he was mainly insulted from his comment about how celebrity voice actors are superior to lesser known actors. This remark drew a TON of heat, especially since ''Ratatouille'' was released a year after Pixar's arguably weakest film, ''[[Cars]]'', a movie ''full'' of celebrity voice actors. Without that one misguided remark, Owen's review doesn't reflect as badly on the seasoned film critic. Somewhat [[Vindicated by History]] though, since Owen gave Pixar's ''[[WALL-E]]'' and ''[[Toy Story (franchise)|Toy Story]] 3'' "A" scores, and since the Pixar fanbase doesn't defend the film as heavily years later.

* Jenna Busch of Joblo.com came under fire after giving a 6/10 review for the ''[[Watchmen (film)|Watchmen]]'' movie. Some pointing out that, as a woman, of course she wouldn't connect to the movie the way that "normal" fans did.

* [[Roger Ebert]] has received some criticism for his questionably good reviews of movies others have perceived as bad -- ''[[Gigli]]'' being perhaps the best example—but the biggest source of criticism came from his review of ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]: Revenge of The Fallen'', where not only did he pronounce it as a bad film, but he suggested that those who thought it was a good one were not "sufficiently evolved" in their cinematic tastes. He also wrote THREE essays detailing how so. Naturally, this pissed people off far more than him considering it a bad film.

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** There was also his lukewarm review of [[How to Train Your Dragon (animation)|How to Train Your Dragon]], where the flames were further fanned by him disparging video games.

** He also gets flak from the animation community sometimes for holding some [[Animation Age Ghetto]] beliefs (of note, he thought [[Don Bluth]]'s 1980s films were too scary and depressing for children to handle). Though he has criticized the ghetto and defended animation as a medium on other occasions (see his quote on the [[Animation Age Ghetto]] page), he seems to go back and forth.

* Chuck Sonnenberg aka [[SF Debris]] posted a pretty critical review of ''[[Star Trek: The ~~Motion Picture|Star Trek the~~ Motion Picture]]'' on [[YouTube]], praising the film's technical aspects but heavily deriding the storyline as being slow and uninvolving. This quickly led to some rather angry posts from that certain section of ''[[Star Trek]]'' fandom that considers ''TMP'' to be a sacred masterpiece, who promptly started making accusations about the level of education that he had (or hadn't) received.

* Chuck Sonnenberg aka [[SF Debris]] posted a pretty critical review of ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture]]'' on [[YouTube]], praising the film's technical aspects but heavily deriding the storyline as being slow and uninvolving. This quickly led to some rather angry posts from that certain section of ''[[Star Trek]]'' fandom that considers ''TMP'' to be a sacred masterpiece, who promptly started making accusations about the level of education that he had (or hadn't) received.

** He rebutted their claims at the end of his ''[[Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan|Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan]]'' review, even to the point of preemptively defending his giving ''TWOK'' a 10/10 over the 4/10 he gave ''TMP''.

** The funny thing about all this is that he constantly reminds people that his reviews are very clearly his opinions (his regular ''[[Star Trek]]'' episode reviews even have "Opinionated" tacked on to them) and that it is very likely that they might not agree with him on many things. Some fans just can't stand a dissenting opinion it seems.

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** U.S. critic Kenneth Turan (''Los Angeles Times'') received similar hate mail when he panned the film and stood by that opinion even as the film became a massive hit, admitting in a subsequent piece that that its huge success worried him because of the possibility that it would discourage filmmakers/studios from focusing on the quality of stories/screenplays in favor of [[Spectacle]]. Finally, [[James Cameron]] himself chewed him out over it in print, saying that it wasn't his duty as a film critic to discuss a movie's flaws long after the audience had made up its collective mind about it.

* The team of critics over at [http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/ Ruthless Reviews] have a pretty big fan following based on the many bad or mediocre films they tear apart (and the precious few they adore), yet fan backlash due to their panning of one classic movie or another is guaranteed to occur on a weekly basis.

* While many people praise [[~~Red Letter Media~~|Red Letter Media's]] reviews of the Star Wars prequels, many Prequel fans have responded negatively to them.

* While many people praise [[RedLetterMedia|Red Letter Media's]] reviews of the Star Wars prequels, many Prequel fans have responded negatively to them.

** One fan even wrote a [http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-fan-writes-108page-rebuttal-red-letter-medias-phantom-menace-review/ 108 page rebuttal] to his Phantom Menace review, claiming it to be a [[Documentary of Lies|review of lies]] and that Mike Stoklasa's arguments were weak.

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* [[SF Debris]] again. After giving the much-loved ''[[Star Trek: Voyager|Voyager]]'' episode "Body and Soul" a 6, he says he knows he's pissing off a lot of people right now, but with comedy episodes the one true criteria is if you find them funny, and he just doesn't, even with Jeri Ryan's great performance as the Doctor controlling Seven's body.

* [[The Daily Show|Jon Stewart]] has said in interviews that he's frequently had people come up to him and say that they loved his show until it made fun of a particular topic.

* Inevitably, many Australian media figures whose [[~~Cowboy~~ ~~Bebop~~ ~~at His Computer~~|actions]] have been criticised by ''[[Media Watch]]'' have expressed a deep hatred of the show, most prominently radio personality [[Snark Bait|Alan Jones]]. ''Media Watch'' themselves respond in a [[Deadpan Snarker|scathingly lighthearted manner]] about the complaints.

* Inevitably, many Australian media figures whose [[Media Research Failure|actions]] have been criticised by ''[[Media Watch]]'' have expressed a deep hatred of the show, most prominently radio personality [[Snark Bait|Alan Jones]]. ''Media Watch'' themselves respond in a [[Deadpan Snarker|scathingly lighthearted manner]] about the complaints.

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{{quote|"Try to keep your accent, because the moment you replace 'bollocks' with 'crikey' you'll probably lose half your audience. Or will that be when you critically review ''[[Spore]]''?"}}

** In a curious inversion, quite a few fans [[Unpleasable Fanbase|react negatively whenever he actually praises a game]].

* IGN has been looked at this way by ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]]'' fans since the series suffered from hitting the [[Polygon Ceiling]], and the hate gets stronger every time a new Sonic game is released and IGN bashes it. Keep in mind though, they gave ''[[Sonic Unleashed]]'' for the 360 a lower score than the [[Obvious Beta|glitch-ridden mess]] that was ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (video game)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' on the same system.

* IGN has been looked at this way by ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]]'' fans since the series suffered from hitting the [[Polygon Ceiling]], and the hate gets stronger every time a new Sonic game is released and IGN bashes it. Keep in mind though, they gave ''[[Sonic Unleashed]]'' for the 360 a lower score than the [[Obvious Beta|glitch-ridden mess]] that was ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)||Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' on the same system.

** [[Games Radar]] has also been viewed this way for their less-than-forthcoming outlook on the Sonic franchise, especially when one considers their hatred of Sonic to be a [[Running Gag]], along with their fanatical obsession with Okami and the [[Bionic Commando|"Wife Arm"]].

** There are also complaints that they didn't finish the final version of ''Sonic Unleashed'' before reviewing it. And it appears they didn't finish ''[[Sonic Storybook Series|Sonic and the Black Knight]]'' either.

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** He also got quite a bit of backlash for his ''[[Battletoads]]'' review, even though he stated multiple times throughout the review, and even in the trailer, that it's a good game, just not a good ''[[Unwinnable|two-player]]'' game.

** Just glaring at a ''[[Mischief Makers]]'' cartridge during an intro got him into hot water. He would later vow to never review that game.

** A day after his review on ''[[Metal Gear ~~1987~~]]'' got released on [[YouTube]], the video was suddenly flagged for unknown reasons, probably because some ''[[Metal Gear]]'' fans were a bit angry with his criticism of the game.

** A day after his review on ''[[Metal Gear (video game)|Metal Gear]]'' got released on [[YouTube]], the video was suddenly flagged for unknown reasons, probably because some ''[[Metal Gear]]'' fans were a bit angry with his criticism of the game.

* ''[[X-Play]]'' can now be added to the list, with their special presentation: "Your Childhood Sucked: ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]''." The sounds of long-time fans gnashing their teeth could be heard across the globe.

** That segment was really just the latest and (so far) most pithy in a long line of [[Take That]]s they've given to ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' and other JRPGs in general. They've never hidden their dislike.

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**** A few years back they answered an e-mail saying they purposely mock anime fans when they review the games because they love getting the hate mail. They also said they loved the Naruto games even though they weren't fans of the anime itself. Note that this was before Naruto was even in America.

** Adam Sessler did a whole segment dealing with negative reaction when ''X-Play'' reviewed ''[[Killzone]] 2'', with accusations that Microsoft paid him off in order to not upset the dominance the Halo franchise had and that he was being unfairly negative towards the game. And what was the score he gave to Killzone 2? ''A perfect 5/5!''. That isn't unpleaseable. That's a mega [[Critical Research Failure]].

*** Oh, it was worse than that. According to the comments he read in Sessler's Soapbox, the reason the [[~~PlayStation~~ 3]] fanboys were upset with his were because 1) he wasn't positive ''enough'' about the game, 2) he ''paused'' at a couple of moments in his review, implying sarcasm, and 3) his ''intonation'' wasn't correct. He eventually ended the review of the comments of his review by telling people, in no uncertain terms, to get off their high horses or otherwise shove their heads up their asses, and stop listening to his reviews if they disagree.

*** Oh, it was worse than that. According to the comments he read in Sessler's Soapbox, the reason the [[Play Station 3]] fanboys were upset with his were because 1) he wasn't positive ''enough'' about the game, 2) he ''paused'' at a couple of moments in his review, implying sarcasm, and 3) his ''intonation'' wasn't correct. He eventually ended the review of the comments of his review by telling people, in no uncertain terms, to get off their high horses or otherwise shove their heads up their asses, and stop listening to his reviews if they disagree.

** The hosts have had to repeatedly point out that they review games, not the franchise they're based on. Despite this, there seems to be endless bile over any anime-based game they give a bad review to because fans take it as an attack on their favorite series and not the ([[The Problem with Licensed Games|probably cheap cash-in]]) game.

*** It's probably safe to say the show has never been serious about reviews. As it progressed, it became more about flame baiting fans, creating [[Dear Negative Readers]] to their responses, and "imitating cardboard cutouts of celebrities," as they put it. Plus, the reviews themselves generally have gotten scarcer. Oh, they generally gave fair scores in the end, but the real point seems to have always been the sideshow.

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** Spoony has now panned ''[[Ultima Underworld]] 2'', a game that is widely held to be one of the best ever.

** Not to mention the almighty hissy fit the Deadliest Warrior fanbase threw when he savagely panned the low budget tie-in game. The backlash resulted in several straight weeks of trolling on the Spoony Experiment forums and comments section from irate fans, prompting Spoony to do a follow-up video... which wasn't any kinder than the first one.

* In one Video Game Vault, [[~~Screw Attack~~]] [[Camp Gay|poked fun at]] the popular ''Asterix'' series. This didn't go over well with fans, who thought Stuttering Craig was ''panning'' the game (he wasn't).

* In one Video Game Vault, [[ScrewAttack]] [[Camp Gay|poked fun at]] the popular ''Asterix'' series. This didn't go over well with fans, who thought Stuttering Craig was ''panning'' the game (he wasn't).

* Game Informer gets a lot of this for its "annual" Sacred Cow Barbeque, explaining why popular games (even the ones they praised) suck. While it is done in a joking manner and meant to "knock some of gaming's most revered icons off their high and mighty pedestals," there are readers who cancel their subscriptions to the magazine.

* [[The Irate Gamer]] gets this a lot. Among these are his ''[[Aladdin (Disney film)|Aladdin]]'', ''[[Tekken]] 6'', ''[[Ghosts 'n Goblins|Ghosts N Goblins]]'', and ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]''.

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*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtmSY3u9CUM SirRonLionheart] too. Interestingly, though, Ron's subscriptions ''[[Colbert Bump|skyrocketed]]'' after this grilling.

*** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayeMqizulX0 ElectricalBeast]. [[Electrical Beast|EB]] apparently quite enjoyed his Retsupurae videos.

** [[~~S So HPKC~~]], where thousands of fans poured in and flamed Retsupurae for riffing him within two hours of the video being put up.

** [[SSoHPKC]], where thousands of fans poured in and flamed Retsupurae for riffing him within two hours of the video being put up.

** Perhaps their biggest example is their riff on an LP of Bart's Nightmare... by [[The Nostalgia Critic]].

* People who critique on [[Deviant ART]] in anyway other than in a completely positive way are considered to be trolls that bash art.

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