Helping Would Be Killstealing: Difference between revisions

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Although this trope is about passively letting bad things happen rather than actively setting them up, it can apply to a [[Stealth Mentor]] or other [[Trickster Mentor]] that has set things in motion and then remain in the background while reminding himself that he mustn't step in. Might become a very reluctant [[Deus Ex Machina]] that is really sorry he gave the protagonists that vital information instead of letting them find it themselves, or regrets that he removed [[That One Boss|That One Obstacle]]. One of main tools of the [[Sink or Swim Mentor]].

The trope is named after [[Kill Steal|a common derogatory epithet]] in [[MMORPG|MMORPGs]].

Compare [[This Is Something He's Got to Do Himself]], where something is left to [[The Hero]] because he has an emotional stake in it.

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== [[Live Action TV]] ==

* {{spoiler|Jacob}} in ''[[Lost]]''. {{spoiler|Played straight on the island: He doesn't interfere, because he want everyone to figure out the right thing to do on their own. Subverted in the outside world, as Jacob seek out Kate in her childhood and save her from a problem that would likely have been a important life lesson.}}

* Giles in the sixth season of ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]''. {{spoiler|He chose to abandon Buffy because he feel that she's making herself smaller than she is by clinging to him in a immature way.}}

** In principle he had good reasons, but the fact that he chose to make his stand right in the middle of a crisis, and forbade everyone else from helping Buffy as well, can only vaguely be justified by him following musical logic at the time.

* In ''[[Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger]]'' and ''[[Power Rangers SPD]]'', once the Rangers' commanding officer becomes a [[Sixth Ranger]] they start feeling that [[Holding Out for a Hero|they can slack off and let him do the dirty work]]. Once he discovers this he refuses to bail them out of trouble until they wise up.

** Completely averted in an episode of ''[[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger]]'', where a returning character ([[Ninpuu Sentai Hurricanger|Fuuraimaru]])'s [[Big Damn Heroes]] moment includes completely destroying a [[Monster of the Week]] who was curb-stomping Gokai Silver. Of course, in the very next episode Fuuraimaru becomes a permanent addition to the team.

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== [[Video Games]] ==

* [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPGs]] such as ''[[~~Ever Quest~~]]'' are the [[Trope Namer]]. In these games, killing monsters is a main source of personal growth for your character. If a monster attacks you and hurts you, you normally do NOT want someone to save you. If someone else attack the monster before you do, then that person has "stolen your kill".

* [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPGs]] such as ''[[EverQuest]]'' are the [[Trope Namer]]. In these games, killing monsters is a main source of personal growth for your character. If a monster attacks you and hurts you, you normally do NOT want someone to save you. If someone else attack the monster before you do, then that person has "stolen your kill".

** Averted in the upcoming MMO ''[[Guild Wars 2]]'' though, where everyone gets full EXP and loot when a monster dies. In this case, helping becomes ''actually helping'' even if you're only in it for yourself.

** In [[World of Warcraft]], the first person to attack a monster gets the experience, loot and credit for any relevant quests. This often leads to people waiting for a monster they need for a daily quest to spawn, and then trying to get the first attack in to get credit, or grouping up to share the kill. An upcoming patch will enable all players who attack the Tol Barad quest bosses to get credit for killing them.