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* [[Dysfunction Junction]]: Even without their individual issues, the insane pressures of their oppressive, brutal society combined with the 4-way mess of romantic entanglements, some of which feed off of hatred, means that there was no way they could be anything but this.
* [[Dysfunction Junction]]: Even without their individual issues, the insane pressures of their oppressive, brutal society combined with the 4-way mess of romantic entanglements, some of which feed off of hatred, means that there was no way they could be anything but this.
* [[Famous Ancestor]]: See [[Generation Xerox]] below. Much like how John created the kids' genetic parents, Karkat made infant paradox clones of these ancestors in an ectobiology lab, who then [[Stable Time Loop|traveled back in time to become themselves]].
* [[Famous Ancestor]]: See [[Generation Xerox]] below. Much like how John created the kids' genetic parents, Karkat made infant paradox clones of these ancestors in an ectobiology lab, who then [[Stable Time Loop|traveled back in time to become themselves]].
* [[Five Token Band]] : Actually more of a 12 token band. The group includes trolls from every caste on the haemospectrum, who have a wide variance in cultural backgrounds, social classes, et cetera. Heck, it even has the obligatory "plucky kid in a wheelchair" role. They're pretty much based on internet stereotypes for that matter as well.
* [[Five-Token Band]] : Actually more of a 12 token band. The group includes trolls from every caste on the haemospectrum, who have a wide variance in cultural backgrounds, social classes, et cetera. Heck, it even has the obligatory "plucky kid in a wheelchair" role. They're pretty much based on internet stereotypes for that matter as well.
** {{color|#a10000|A}}: [[The Stoic]] -> [[Plucky Girl]]
** {{color|#a10000|A}}: [[The Stoic]] -> [[Plucky Girl]]
** {{color|#a15000|T}}: [[The Load]]
** {{color|#a15000|T}}: [[The Load]]
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** {{color|#008141|K}} as the '''Sylph of Space''' has [[Reality Warper|reality warping abilities]]. In addition, she has unspecified abilities due to becoming a [[Our Vampires Are Different|Rainbow Drinker]] for unknown reasons.
** {{color|#008141|K}} as the '''Sylph of Space''' has [[Reality Warper|reality warping abilities]]. In addition, she has unspecified abilities due to becoming a [[Our Vampires Are Different|Rainbow Drinker]] for unknown reasons.
** {{color|teal|T}} as the '''{{color|#15934c|S}}''' has [[Omniscient Hero|pseudo-omniscience]], though her abilities are limited to [[The Empath|intuitive empathy]], prediction of future actions of individuals, and consequences tied to those actions. She also [[Disability Superpower|has incredibly]] keen smell and taste.
** {{color|teal|T}} as the '''{{color|#15934c|S}}''' has [[Omniscient Hero|pseudo-omniscience]], though her abilities are limited to [[The Empath|intuitive empathy]], prediction of future actions of individuals, and consequences tied to those actions. She also [[Disability Superpower|has incredibly]] keen smell and taste.
** {{color|#004183|V}} as the '''{{color|#ed7b00|T}}''' has [[Winds of Destiny Change|luck manipulation abilities]] in addition to [[Eye Beams|various]] [[X Ray Vision|eye]] related powers. She also entered her God Tiers and had [[Immortality]] Type 4, though she died under ambiguous circumstances regardless. She also naturally has the ability to [[Mind Manipulation|force others to do things]], though there are a great number of limitations to what she can do to trolls, and she can only [[Instant Sedation|put humans to sleep]].
** {{color|#004183|V}} as the '''{{color|#ed7b00|T}}''' has [[Winds of Destiny Change|luck manipulation abilities]] in addition to [[Eye Beams|various]] [[X-Ray Vision|eye]] related powers. She also entered her God Tiers and had [[Immortality]] Type 4, though she died under ambiguous circumstances regardless. She also naturally has the ability to [[Mind Manipulation|force others to do things]], though there are a great number of limitations to what she can do to trolls, and she can only [[Instant Sedation|put humans to sleep]].
** {{color|#000056|E}} as the '''{{color|#112554|H}}''' is [[Psychic Block Defense|immune to scrying and prophecies]], though it is unknown if this fully extends to being [[Immune to Fate]]. He is also naturally [[Super Strength|incredibly strong]].
** {{color|#000056|E}} as the '''{{color|#112554|H}}''' is [[Psychic Block Defense|immune to scrying and prophecies]], though it is unknown if this fully extends to being [[Immune to Fate]]. He is also naturally [[Super Strength|incredibly strong]].
** {{color|indigo|G}} as the '''{{color|#412385|B}}''', and his title could be more eloquently be described as "One who invites destruction through Rage", as Gamzee's abilities manifest as an [[Unstoppable Rage]]. He also naturally has the ability to [[Mind Rape|induce horrific nightmares and play off of fears]] though he didn't realize this ability until after the end of the Troll Session.
** {{color|indigo|G}} as the '''{{color|#412385|B}}''', and his title could be more eloquently be described as "One who invites destruction through Rage", as Gamzee's abilities manifest as an [[Unstoppable Rage]]. He also naturally has the ability to [[Mind Rape|induce horrific nightmares and play off of fears]] though he didn't realize this ability until after the end of the Troll Session.
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* [[Prescience Is Predictable]]: Gets hit with this hard.
* [[Prescience Is Predictable]]: Gets hit with this hard.
* [[Rapunzel Hair]]
* [[Rapunzel Hair]]
* [[Shout Out]]: [[Doctor Who (TV)|Eventually becomes an immortal master of time.]]
* [[Shout-Out]]: [[Doctor Who|Eventually becomes an immortal master of time.]]
** Her second [[Leitmotif]] [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew Arisen Anew] even contains the top quote on [[Timey-Wimey Ball]]!
** Her second [[Leitmotif]] [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew Arisen Anew] even contains the top quote on [[Timey-Wimey Ball]]!
* [[Stable Time Loop]]: In a nutshell, how she gains her Crosbytop and discovers sGrub to begin with. Given that she is also the Maid of Time, a lot of her actions revolve around this.
* [[Stable Time Loop]]: In a nutshell, how she gains her Crosbytop and discovers sGrub to begin with. Given that she is also the Maid of Time, a lot of her actions revolve around this.
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* [[Characterization Marches On]]: Compare his [[Smug Snake|smug]] first appearance to his [[The Pollyana|more optimistic]] personality seen later on.
* [[Characterization Marches On]]: Compare his [[Smug Snake|smug]] first appearance to his [[The Pollyana|more optimistic]] personality seen later on.
* [[Cheerful Child]]: Stays pretty upbeat despite a lot of things. Later eventually starts emoting more at the end of the Troll's session as it gets worse.
* [[Cheerful Child]]: Stays pretty upbeat despite a lot of things. Later eventually starts emoting more at the end of the Troll's session as it gets worse.
* [[Chew Toy]]: The poor guy gets forced to walk off a cliff, [[Handicapped Badass|paralyzed from the waist down,]] [[Back Alley Doctor|gets his legs]][[Chainsaw Good|chainsawed off,]] has a Yandere, [[Manipulative Bitch]] frenemy, and gets run through with his own spear.
* [[Chew Toy]]: The poor guy gets forced to walk off a cliff, [[Handicapped Badass|paralyzed from the waist down,]] [[Back-Alley Doctor|gets his legs]][[Chainsaw Good|chainsawed off,]] has a Yandere, [[Manipulative Bitch]] frenemy, and gets run through with his own spear.
* [[Cool Chair]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004264 It's a] [[Flying Car]]!
* [[Cool Chair]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004264 It's a] [[Flying Car]]!
* [[Cyborg]]: After their session of Sburb Equius makes him some robot legs that allow him to walk... once Kanaya has [[Chainsaw Good|chainsawed]] [[Back Alley Doctor|off]] his old ones.
* [[Cyborg]]: After their session of Sburb Equius makes him some robot legs that allow him to walk... once Kanaya has [[Chainsaw Good|chainsawed]] [[Back-Alley Doctor|off]] his old ones.
* [[Deliberate Values Dissonance]]: His first attempt at Communing with Bec show the differences between the two cultures. The way he saw things, he was protecting Jade and her lusus from an intruder. Too bad the "intruder" he was saving Jade from was her grandfather.
* [[Deliberate Values Dissonance]]: His first attempt at Communing with Bec show the differences between the two cultures. The way he saw things, he was protecting Jade and her lusus from an intruder. Too bad the "intruder" he was saving Jade from was her grandfather.
* [[Duel to The Death]]: Embarked to have one with Vriska. When it finally happens, since he's facing a God Tier opponent, it goes [[Curb Stomp Battle|about as well as you'd expect]].
* [[Duel to The Death]]: Embarked to have one with Vriska. When it finally happens, since he's facing a God Tier opponent, it goes [[Curb Stomp Battle|about as well as you'd expect]].
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* [[Playing With Fire]]: After his death, he seems to have this power as a [[Brick Joke]].
* [[Playing With Fire]]: After his death, he seems to have this power as a [[Brick Joke]].
* [[The Pollyanna]]: Read a little more, and you'll see why he's [[The Woobie]]. But despite all those things, he's usually smiling.
* [[The Pollyanna]]: Read a little more, and you'll see why he's [[The Woobie]]. But despite all those things, he's usually smiling.
* [[Shout Out]]: The role-playing and card games he uses animals in are based off of [[Pokémon]], and the animals he uses are based on the famous monsters from [[Alien]].
* [[Shout-Out]]: The role-playing and card games he uses animals in are based off of [[Pokémon]], and the animals he uses are based on the famous monsters from [[Alien]].
** Tavros' strife specibus, his hive (and his Land) having windmills, his Spanish trolltag, and his over-idealistic way of thinking all point towards Tavros being the series' Don Quixote. Hell, his battle with Vriska could be described as tilting at windmills!
** Tavros' strife specibus, his hive (and his Land) having windmills, his Spanish trolltag, and his over-idealistic way of thinking all point towards Tavros being the series' Don Quixote. Hell, his battle with Vriska could be described as tilting at windmills!
* [[Smug Snake]]: Fans instantly pegged him as this when they first got a look at his [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003496 amazingly punchable face], only to discover in late Act 4 that he wasn't actually such a bad guy... and then to learn in the Hivebent arc that he's -- well, just see [[The Woobie]] below.
* [[Smug Snake]]: Fans instantly pegged him as this when they first got a look at his [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003496 amazingly punchable face], only to discover in late Act 4 that he wasn't actually such a bad guy... and then to learn in the Hivebent arc that he's -- well, just see [[The Woobie]] below.
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* [[Fashionable Asymmetry]]: One shoe is black, the other white. His sunglasses are mismatched too, although that's probably just to [[Mismatched Eyes|match his eyes]]
* [[Fashionable Asymmetry]]: One shoe is black, the other white. His sunglasses are mismatched too, although that's probably just to [[Mismatched Eyes|match his eyes]]
* [[Foreshadow]]: The Ψiioniic died getting the Empress's ship back to Alternia and it looks like Sollux going to die getting the asteroid to the Green Sun.
* [[Foreshadow]]: The Ψiioniic died getting the Empress's ship back to Alternia and it looks like Sollux going to die getting the asteroid to the Green Sun.
* [[Glasses Pull]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003971 "You could almost say we need to get moving...] [[One-Liner|ON THE DOUBLE.]] [[Shout Out|Yeah."]]
* [[Glasses Pull]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003971 "You could almost say we need to get moving...] [[One-Liner|ON THE DOUBLE.]] [[Shout-Out|Yeah."]]
** He seems to do the [[Glasses Pull]] / [[Quip to Black]] routine often, as seen in [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004659 this] conversation.
** He seems to do the [[Glasses Pull]] / [[Quip to Black]] routine often, as seen in [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004659 this] conversation.
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** In general Karkat seems to calm down and actually become useful when people give him the respect he thinks he deserves -- but they almost never do that because he's Karkat.
** In general Karkat seems to calm down and actually become useful when people give him the respect he thinks he deserves -- but they almost never do that because he's Karkat.
* [[I Hate Past Me]]<nowiki>GC: H4H4H4 TH4T W4SNT 3V3N 4NY SORT OF PUN YOU DOOFUS</nowiki>[[Future Me Scares Me|Future Me Pisses Me Off]]: Future Karkat and Past Karkat argue between each other at every opportunity, Future Karkat because Past Karkat hasn't wised up to the situation, and Past Karkat because he feels Future Karkat has gone soft. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005152 His feelings about Present Karkat aren't much better.]
* [[I Hate Past Me]]<nowiki>GC: H4H4H4 TH4T W4SNT 3V3N 4NY SORT OF PUN YOU DOOFUS</nowiki>[[Future Me Scares Me|Future Me Pisses Me Off]]: Future Karkat and Past Karkat argue between each other at every opportunity, Future Karkat because Past Karkat hasn't wised up to the situation, and Past Karkat because he feels Future Karkat has gone soft. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005152 His feelings about Present Karkat aren't much better.]
* [[Hot Blooded]]
* [[Hot-Blooded]]
* [[Ironic Hell]]: He views Land Of Pulse And Haze as this, because of his own mutant blood color.
* [[Ironic Hell]]: He views Land Of Pulse And Haze as this, because of his own mutant blood color.
* [[Famous Ancestor|Infamous Ancestor]]: Karkat's ancestor was mentioned in passing over the span of about [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005658 two sentences] in Mindfang's journal. Why? Well, leading a revolt on such a scale that not only did the Highbloods have to ''work'' to put it down, but then ''[[Orwellian Retcon|forbade any mention of both it or the Cancer symbol, public or private]]'', may have been a factor.
* [[Famous Ancestor|Infamous Ancestor]]: Karkat's ancestor was mentioned in passing over the span of about [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005658 two sentences] in Mindfang's journal. Why? Well, leading a revolt on such a scale that not only did the Highbloods have to ''work'' to put it down, but then ''[[Orwellian Retcon|forbade any mention of both it or the Cancer symbol, public or private]]'', may have been a factor.
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** Dropped to a large extent as he actually develops as a character and stops antagonizing the kids.
** Dropped to a large extent as he actually develops as a character and stops antagonizing the kids.
* [[Man On Fire]]: Seen for a brief moment in [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004827 [S] Jade:Enter], before the demon engulfs Prospit and Karkat's dreamself in green fire, [[Tear Jerker|after he heartbreakingly recognizes]] [[Blood Brothers|Jack Noir]] [[Tear Jerker|as the demon.]]
* [[Man On Fire]]: Seen for a brief moment in [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004827 [S] Jade:Enter], before the demon engulfs Prospit and Karkat's dreamself in green fire, [[Tear Jerker|after he heartbreakingly recognizes]] [[Blood Brothers|Jack Noir]] [[Tear Jerker|as the demon.]]
* [[Meaningful Name]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karkata_%28astrology%29 Karkata] is the equivalent sign to Cancer in Indian astrology. On top of that, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrelin Vantas] is a pharmaceutical used to treat prostate cancer.
* [[Meaningful Name]]: [[wikipedia:Karkata chr(28)astrologychr(29)|Karkata]] is the equivalent sign to Cancer in Indian astrology. On top of that, [[wikipedia:Histrelin|Vantas]] is a pharmaceutical used to treat prostate cancer.
** Also, the Hindu name for the Cancer sign is "Karka".
** Also, the Hindu name for the Cancer sign is "Karka".
** Taken to even more meaningful heights when it turns out that he gave the kids' universe cancer, i.e. being a Cancer Geneticist. Mixes with [[Incredibly Lame Pun]].
** Taken to even more meaningful heights when it turns out that he gave the kids' universe cancer, i.e. being a Cancer Geneticist. Mixes with [[Incredibly Lame Pun]].
** His title "Knight of Blood" is at first simply [[Blood Knight|a vicious-sounding name]], but once you take into consideration the importance of the trolls' blood color based caste system (and where Karkat is placed in relation to it), it is pretty relevant.
** His title "Knight of Blood" is at first simply [[Blood Knight|a vicious-sounding name]], but once you take into consideration the importance of the trolls' blood color based caste system (and where Karkat is placed in relation to it), it is pretty relevant.
** A [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinogen carcinogen] is something that causes cancer. A geneticist that causes cancer. Karkat created himself through ectobiologic cloning.
** A [[wikipedia:Carcinogen|carcinogen]] is something that causes cancer. A geneticist that causes cancer. Karkat created himself through ectobiologic cloning.
*** And now it was revealed that by [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005877 giving up the search for the final frog], the Genesis Frog [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005905 became imperfect]. In other words, Karkat [http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005917 gave THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE cancer].
*** And now it was revealed that by [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005877 giving up the search for the final frog], the Genesis Frog [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005905 became imperfect]. In other words, Karkat [http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005917 gave THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE cancer].
** carcinology is also the study of crustaceans.
** carcinology is also the study of crustaceans.
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* [[Never My Fault]]: Zig-zagged. Karkat is less likely to accept responsibility for his actions and more likely to blame his [[I Hate Past Me|past or future selves.]] [[Mind Screw|Even though they're him.]] But when REALLY bad things happen, he blames himself for it if he had even the slightest involvement in it.
* [[Never My Fault]]: Zig-zagged. Karkat is less likely to accept responsibility for his actions and more likely to blame his [[I Hate Past Me|past or future selves.]] [[Mind Screw|Even though they're him.]] But when REALLY bad things happen, he blames himself for it if he had even the slightest involvement in it.
* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]]:
* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]]:
** He executes Sollux's code. You know, the one that ''curses everyone the user knows''. The result is [[Wham Episode|not pretty]]. However he really didn't have a choice in it; Aradia went back and corrected the timeline so he had to. If she hadn't Gamzee would have gone crazy much earlier and killed all the Trolls.
** He executes Sollux's code. You know, the one that ''curses everyone the user knows''. The result is [[Wham! Episode|not pretty]]. However he really didn't have a choice in it; Aradia went back and corrected the timeline so he had to. If she hadn't Gamzee would have gone crazy much earlier and killed all the Trolls.
** His haste in beating the game without properly understanding the frog breeding process gave the kids' ''entire universe'' cancer.
** His haste in beating the game without properly understanding the frog breeding process gave the kids' ''entire universe'' cancer.
* [[Not Now, Kiddo]]: {{color|#626262| }}
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* [[Wide Eyes and Shrunken Irises]]: Compliments the [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005249 aforementioned] [[Jaw Drop]].
* [[Wide Eyes and Shrunken Irises]]: Compliments the [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005249 aforementioned] [[Jaw Drop]].
* [[Which Me]]: Uses "past me" and "future me" to refer to those selves.
* [[Which Me?]]: Uses "past me" and "future me" to refer to those selves.
* [[You Can't Fight Fate]]: Karkat tries to warn the past trolls about horrible things that will happen in the future. [[Cassandra Truth|They don't believe him]]. Apparently even when a future Gamzee shows up and offers false reassurance, though it remains to be seen if this is true.
* [[You Can't Fight Fate]]: Karkat tries to warn the past trolls about horrible things that will happen in the future. [[Cassandra Truth|They don't believe him]]. Apparently even when a future Gamzee shows up and offers false reassurance, though it remains to be seen if this is true.
** Karkat is bothered by this when he travels through the dream bubbles and meets deceased [[Alternate Timeline]] trolls who went God Tier.
** Karkat is bothered by this when he travels through the dream bubbles and meets deceased [[Alternate Timeline]] trolls who went God Tier.