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{{quote| ''Elsewhere in paradox space, we examine another planet, forgotten by time. But we will strive to remember. What was this planet's name?''}}

Long before the formation of planet Earth, there was a world called Alternia. Alternia was a world ruled by the [[All Trolls Are Different|trolls]], a species who, [[Human Outside Alien Inside|at least externally]], [[Rubber Forehead Aliens|look like humans]] with [[Amazing Technicolor Population|grey skin]], [[Fangs Are Evil|fangs]], [[Eyes of Gold|yellow eyes]], and striped [[Horned Humanoid|horns]]. The trolls, too, have found Sburb (or rather, Sgrub), and over the course of the adventure we meet twelve troll children who play it together, split into two sessions of six. However, sometime during the course of their quest, [[Game Breaking Bug|something goes very wrong]], and they begin a campaign of [[Trolling|petty internet harassment]] against the kids, who they blame for the incident. Despite their monstrous looks, [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|sinister screennames]], and [[Evil Counterpart|character profiles composed of mixes and inversions of traits from one or more of the kids]], the trolls [[Dark Is Not Evil|mostly aren't that bad]]; they were introduced properly in their own sub-adventure arc in Act 5 Act 1, also known as Hivebent, before essentially becoming part of the main cast on par with the kids in Act 5 Act 2.

Long before the formation of planet Earth, there was a world called Alternia. Alternia was a world ruled by the [[All Trolls Are Different|trolls]], a species who, [[Human Outside, Alien Inside|at least externally]], [[Rubber Forehead Aliens|look like humans]] with [[Amazing Technicolor Population|grey skin]], [[Fangs Are Evil|fangs]], [[Eyes of Gold|yellow eyes]], and striped [[Horned Humanoid|horns]]. The trolls, too, have found Sburb (or rather, Sgrub), and over the course of the adventure we meet twelve troll children who play it together, split into two sessions of six. However, sometime during the course of their quest, [[Game Breaking Bug|something goes very wrong]], and they begin a campaign of [[Trolling|petty internet harassment]] against the kids, who they blame for the incident. Despite their monstrous looks, [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|sinister screennames]], and [[Evil Counterpart|character profiles composed of mixes and inversions of traits from one or more of the kids]], the trolls [[Dark Is Not Evil|mostly aren't that bad]]; they were introduced properly in their own sub-adventure arc in Act 5 Act 1, also known as Hivebent, before essentially becoming part of the main cast on par with the kids in Act 5 Act 2.

== The Troll players in general ==

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* [[Animal Motifs]]: Quite a bit, seeing as they're partially inspired by the Western Zodiac. Most of these are represented through their horns (Tavros = Bull, Aradia = Ram etc) while others show it through their actions (Karkat = Crab = [[Grumpy Bear|Crabby]], Vriska = Spider/Scorpion = [[Chronic Backstabbing Disorder|Unpleasantness]] etc).

* [[Anyone Can Die]]/[[Dwindling Party]]: Drops into this later in the story, although there are hints this may be undone completely or reversed in some fashion and there's still the afterlife/memories in the dream-bubbles. A number of them [[Came Back Strong]] due to God Tier revives.

** [[Kill Em All|Everyone HAS Died]]: Vriska killed Tavros and Aradia (she got better); Eridan killed Feferi, Kanaya (she got better), and the matriorb; Gamzee killed Equius and Nepeta; Terezi killed Vriska, and Bec Noir killed all the trolls' dreamselves.

** [[Kill'Em All|Everyone HAS Died]]: Vriska killed Tavros and Aradia (she got better); Eridan killed Feferi, Kanaya (she got better), and the matriorb; Gamzee killed Equius and Nepeta; Terezi killed Vriska, and Bec Noir killed all the trolls' dreamselves.

*** Which was outright stated by Sollux to be their fate under two weeks after the beginning of Act 5, that everyone would die; the fans and the trolls simply thought it meant just their dreamselves.

** [[Plot Armor]]: Only happens to the more [[Out of Focus]] and minor trolls though, aside from Vriska (who's character arc was built around her eventual demise).

* [[Ax Crazy]] / [[Hair Trigger Temper]]: Trolls are basically an [[Ax Crazy]] species, but most of the high bloods fall into fits of rage constantly. Feferi is the only exception to this, as Gamzee goes insane later on. Even the lower blooded trolls are not beyond this, as the fits of rage from Kanaya showcase. Aradia also rages occasionally, but these occurred while she was in a robot fueled by blue blood.

* [[Ax Crazy]] / [[Hair-Trigger Temper]]: Trolls are basically an [[Ax Crazy]] species, but most of the high bloods fall into fits of rage constantly. Feferi is the only exception to this, as Gamzee goes insane later on. Even the lower blooded trolls are not beyond this, as the fits of rage from Kanaya showcase. Aradia also rages occasionally, but these occurred while she was in a robot fueled by blue blood.

* [[Blue and Orange Morality]]: Killing sprees are actually a lauded behavior for the higher-ups, hetero/homosexuality and incest are not taboos, but ''buckets'' elicit the same reaction one would have from seeing an used condom.

* [[Breakout Character]]: They were not even mentioned until Act 3, and even then they were a written version of [[The Voice]] until Karkat was seen at the end of the Midnight Crew Intermission. A few more trolls appeared in Act 4, but the entire cast of trolls was only revealed in Act 5. Yet the way the fandom treats them, they were around from the very beginning. Which in-universe they were.

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** {{color|#008141|K}}: [[The Chick]] -> [[Team Mom]]

** {{color|teal|T}}: [[The Lancer]] -> [[Action Girl]]

** {{color|#004183|V}}: [[Anti Villain]] -> [[Well Intentioned Extremist|Well Intentioned]] [[Dark Action Girl]]

** {{color|#004183|V}}: [[Anti-Villain]] -> [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|Well Intentioned]] [[Dark Action Girl]]

** {{color|#000056|E}}: [[Those Two Guys]] / [[The Big Guy]]

** {{color|indigo|G}}: [[The Fool]] -> [[Monster Clown]]

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* [[Gone Horribly Right]]: The pre-Scratch trolls were too peaceful to play SGRUB and had to reboot their session. Doc Scratch and the Handmaid warped their world into something suitably aggressive, causing "our" trolls to speed through the game and ignore small but important things like listening to the Denizens and catching all the frogs to make the new universe's DNA, causing "our" universe to be so fatally flawed it needs to be scratched too.

* [[Hero of Another Story|Heroes Of Another Story]]: The first part of Act 5 fills us in on the characters and key moments in their session, but it's implied that there was a lot of stuff that went on that we don't get to see.

* [[Historical in Joke]]: The 12 trolls become the creators of ''our'' universe, and their memory survives in the form of our zodiac signs.

* [[Historical In-Joke]]: The 12 trolls become the creators of ''our'' universe, and their memory survives in the form of our zodiac signs.

* [[Legacy Character]]: As it turns out, every single one. Their ancestors are the previous batch from an even less successful session.

* [[Mr. Exposition]]: Part of the point of Hivebent was to show how a different session went. Additionally, Karkat, Kanaya, and Vriska all serve as informants to the kids (and the readers) as veteran players of the game, and Feferi and Aradia pass on info either about dream bubbles or learned from them.

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** {{color|#000056|E}} as the '''{{color|#112554|H}}''' is [[Psychic Block Defense|immune to scrying and prophecies]], though it is unknown if this fully extends to being [[Immune to Fate]]. He is also naturally [[Super Strength|incredibly strong]].

** {{color|indigo|G}} as the '''{{color|#412385|B}}''', and his title could be more eloquently be described as "One who invites destruction through Rage", as Gamzee's abilities manifest as an [[Unstoppable Rage]]. He also naturally has the ability to [[Mind Rape|induce horrific nightmares and play off of fears]] though he didn't realize this ability until after the end of the Troll Session.

** {{color|#6a006a|E}} as the '''{{color|#c7a419|P}}''' has unknown abilities, though they seemingly are [[Light Em Up|light manipulation]] abilities. His title more correctly means "One who destroys Hope" or "One who causes destruction via Hope", as Prince is a very active class.

** {{color|#6a006a|E}} as the '''{{color|#c7a419|P}}''' has unknown abilities, though they seemingly are [[Light'Em Up|light manipulation]] abilities. His title more correctly means "One who destroys Hope" or "One who causes destruction via Hope", as Prince is a very active class.

** {{color|#77003c|F}} as the '''{{color|#78ab5f|W}}''' has an unknown variety of [[Immortality]], and potentially has more unexplored abilities, as an [[Alternate Timeline]] version of herself was seen having [[Healing Hands]].

* [[Tertiary Sexual Characteristics]]: While all trolls have black lips (as stated in Kanaya's introduction), the boys and Nepeta are depicted with lips the same color as their skin, i.e. grey. This is because all the other girls apparently do care about fashion enough to wear lipstick. Also, only the female trolls are drawn with eyelashes, and many of them wear eye makeup.

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==== Universal Tropes ====

* [[Because Destiny Says So]]: Most of what she does is because the voices of the dead tell her to do it. Later this ties into [[Timey Wimey Ball]], as it's implied ''Aradia herself'' is the voices of the dead guiding her. Or more accurately her time duplicates.

* [[Because Destiny Says So]]: Most of what she does is because the voices of the dead tell her to do it. Later this ties into [[Timey-Wimey Ball]], as it's implied ''Aradia herself'' is the voices of the dead guiding her. Or more accurately her time duplicates.

* [[Emotionless Girl]]: As a robot and a ghost she's almost emotionless, but when she's alive, she's much more upbeat.

* [[Expendable Clone]] / [[More Expendable Than You]]: Justified. Duplicates created by time travel which doesn't cause a [[Stable Time Loop]] are doomed to die anyways and treated as expendable.

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* [[Hearing Voices]]: Explicitly one of her powers.

* [[Leitmotif]]: [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/psych0ruins psych0ruins] <ref>A partial remix of [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/ruins-with-strings Ruins (With Strings)] which recieved another remix later associated with WV called [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/ruins-rising Ruins Rising].</ref> and [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew Arisen Anew].

** [[I Am Song]]: Got one about all of her iterations in [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/temporal-shenanigans Temporal Shenanigans].

** [["I Am" Song]]: Got one about all of her iterations in [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/temporal-shenanigans Temporal Shenanigans].

* [[Meaningful Name]]: Her discovering Sburb set the [[Endofthe World As We Know It]] in motion. (If linear causality has any meaning with all the Weird Time Shit going on.)

** Aradia is the name of a goddess of witches, portrayed as the messianic daughter of the goddess Diana and the god Lucifer. Lucifer is a Latin word (from the words lucem ferre), literally meaning "light-bearer", which in that language is used as a name for the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, heralding daylight. Venus in Aries is in its detriment, because Aries is the opposite sign to Libra, which Venus rules.

** Megido is a shortened form of Megiddo, which is what we get the word armageddon from. It's also a place that a number of religions believe the final battle will take place.

** apocalypse''Arise''n

* [[~~Mes~~ a Crowd]]: Her time powers can be used to create an army of alternate future selves.

* [[Me's a Crowd]]: Her time powers can be used to create an army of alternate future selves.

* [[Messy Hair]]

* [[Mind Over Matter]]: To spectacular levels.

* [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot]]: She's a psychic alien ghost time traveler merged with a frog-statue-prototyped sprite who's haunting a robot body fueled by blood which eventually exploded because her soul turned into an immortal fairy goddess of time who is the descendant of a forced apprentice to an mob boss/eldritch demon of time/personification of death and now acts as a dream [[Guide/psychopomp|psychopomp]]. Yeah.

* [[Off Model]]: No one can seem to figure out how her horns are supposed to work. If you watch [S] Make Her Pay, they're all over the place.

* [[Off-Model]]: No one can seem to figure out how her horns are supposed to work. If you watch [S] Make Her Pay, they're all over the place.

** According to Andrew, her horns "curl whatever way looks best for the scene."

* [[Out of Focus]]: Zigzagged, she takes center stage a few times but ends up being relatively unimportant overall.

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* [[Rapunzel Hair]]

* [[Shout Out]]: [[Doctor Who (TV)|Eventually becomes an immortal master of time.]]

** Her second [[Leitmotif]] [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew Arisen Anew] even contains the top quote on [[Timey Wimey Ball]]!

** Her second [[Leitmotif]] [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/arisen-anew Arisen Anew] even contains the top quote on [[Timey-Wimey Ball]]!

* [[Stable Time Loop]]: In a nutshell, how she gains her Crosbytop and discovers sGrub to begin with. Given that she is also the Maid of Time, a lot of her actions revolve around this.

* [[Strange Girl]]: She's always flirted with the trope, but the recent spotlight on her cheerful, enthusiastic fascination with death seals the deal.

* [[Timey Wimey Ball]]: Aradia uses her time powers rather infrequently but still has them, especially now that she's ascended to her god tiers.

* [[Timey-Wimey Ball]]: Aradia uses her time powers rather infrequently but still has them, especially now that she's ascended to her god tiers.

** The trope naming line gets directly quoted in one of her later themes.

* [[Triang Relations]]: Close to Sollux; secretly lusted after by Equius

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* [[Magikarp Power]]: Sadly unrealized.

* [[Nice Guy]]

* [[Nice Job Breaking It Hero]]: Tavros killed Jade's Grandpa when he "communed" with Bec to save Jade when she accidentally shot herself as a toddler. In his defense, he didn't/doesn't know what a grandpa is and thought the old guy was an intruder. On the other hand he did save Jade's life and she forgave him pretty quickly

* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]]: Tavros killed Jade's Grandpa when he "communed" with Bec to save Jade when she accidentally shot herself as a toddler. In his defense, he didn't/doesn't know what a grandpa is and thought the old guy was an intruder. On the other hand he did save Jade's life and she forgave him pretty quickly

* [[Oblivious to Love]]: Tavros is more or less clueless that Vriska has an enormous crush on him. Later, it's revealed he [[Allergic to Love|tends to get rather uncomfortable when people hit on him]], even Gamzee who is a good friend of his.

* [[Phrase Catcher]]: "Adios, Torea(word starting with the syllable 'dor')." From Vriska mostly.

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* [[Fashionable Asymmetry]]: One shoe is black, the other white. His sunglasses are mismatched too, although that's probably just to [[Mismatched Eyes|match his eyes]]

* [[Foreshadow]]: The Ψiioniic died getting the Empress's ship back to Alternia and it looks like Sollux going to die getting the asteroid to the Green Sun.

* [[Glasses Pull]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003971 "You could almost say we need to get moving...] [[One Liner|ON THE DOUBLE.]] [[Shout Out|Yeah."]]

* [[Glasses Pull]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003971 "You could almost say we need to get moving...] [[One-Liner|ON THE DOUBLE.]] [[Shout Out|Yeah."]]

** He seems to do the [[Glasses Pull]] / [[Quip to Black]] routine often, as seen in [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004659 this] conversation.

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** Does it again by sending the Trolls and their meteor to the Green Sun faster than the speed of light. But see [[Unexplained Recovery]].

** And ultimately averted as he decides to stay behind at the Green Sun and move on, staying dead for real.

* [[Heroic Self Deprecation]]: Very much so, as pointed out by Terezi:

* [[Heroic Self-Deprecation]]: Very much so, as pointed out by Terezi:

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* [[Mismatched Eyes]]: His eyes are the same color as his glasses, one red and one blue. Or they were, before he went blind. And are again later.

* [[Mood Swinger]]: Between complete apathy and rage to rival Karkat's. Though once he loses the lisp and dying voices in his head he stabilizes.

* [[Nice Job Breaking It Hero]]: He gave a computer code that would curse everyone he knew to the one guy most likely to execute it in a fit of [[Hair Trigger Temper|blind, stupid rage]].

* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]]: He gave a computer code that would curse everyone he knew to the one guy most likely to execute it in a fit of [[Hair-Trigger Temper|blind, stupid rage]].

** He adapted Sgrub after being led to believe that it would kill its players but save the world, intending to make a [[Heroic Sacrifice]]. Of course, it actually does the exact opposite.

* [[Opt Out]]: Decides to do one after he returns as a half-ghost to the asteroid with the surviving trolls, Dave and Rose. He could stick around, but he's tired of the adventure and would prefer to run around with Aradia through dream bubbles.

* [[Our Ghosts Are Different]]: He can be considered this after leaving his dream bubble. Karkat calls him a "half ghost", but [[Unreliable Expositor|he's not the most reliable source.]]

* [[Prophecy Twist]]: For the reader. Early on, Sollux predicts he'll die twice, and that he'll go blind before he dies. At first it looks like the prophecy was fufilled with Sollux's death by the Vast Glub (where he was replaced with his Dersite Dream Self) and the death of his Propitian Dream Self by Jack Noir. Future events would then suggest that neither of those deaths actually counted. When Sollux was blinded by Eridan, several readers interpreted it as the first "death" in his prophecy and that he would be [[Killed Off for Real]] later on. While he did die from a [[Heroic Sacrifice]], he had [[Unexplained Recovery|already left the afterlife]] (due to [[Achievements in Ignorance]] and [[Timey Wimey Ball]]).

* [[Prophecy Twist]]: For the reader. Early on, Sollux predicts he'll die twice, and that he'll go blind before he dies. At first it looks like the prophecy was fufilled with Sollux's death by the Vast Glub (where he was replaced with his Dersite Dream Self) and the death of his Propitian Dream Self by Jack Noir. Future events would then suggest that neither of those deaths actually counted. When Sollux was blinded by Eridan, several readers interpreted it as the first "death" in his prophecy and that he would be [[Killed Off for Real]] later on. While he did die from a [[Heroic Sacrifice]], he had [[Unexplained Recovery|already left the afterlife]] (due to [[Achievements in Ignorance]] and [[Timey-Wimey Ball]]).

** It seems that Sollux's prophecy doesn't include Dream Self deaths or [[Came Back Strong|God-Tier ascensions]]. As such, it's hard to say if he died once or twice for the purposes of the prophecy - the Sollux that piloted the meteor to the Green Sun was technically his Dersite Dream Self.

* [[Psychic Powers]]

* [[Red Oni Blue Oni]]: Thanks to his [[Mismatched Eyes]] and [[Mood Swinger|BIPOLAR MOOD SWINGS]], Sollux plays this trope ''by himself.''

* [[Red Oni, Blue Oni]]: Thanks to his [[Mismatched Eyes]] and [[Mood Swinger|BIPOLAR MOOD SWINGS]], Sollux plays this trope ''by himself.''

** After losing the lisp and no longer having the voices of the dead in his head, he becomes very calm and collected, essentially becoming the blue to Karkat's red.

* [[Superpower Meltdown]]: See [[Eye Beams]], above.

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* [[Contemplate Our Navels]]: Gets pretty introspective when he's traveling through the Furthest Ring, mostly because of meeting dead trolls and dead [[Alternate Timeline]] trolls.

* [[Dark Messiah]]: Sort of, in that it's not conscious on Karkat's part: The Sufferer's last prophecy was about his successor who will signal the end of the world.

* [[Deer in The Headlights]]: Shows this look [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005259 here] after reading a threatening message from a [[Power Limiter|slime]]-[[Obfuscating Stupidity|sobered,]] [[Ax Crazy|ax-crazed,]] [[Super Powered Evil Side|split]]-[[From Nobody to Nightmare|personality]] [[Mad Artist|Gamzee.]]

* [[Deer in The Headlights]]: Shows this look [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005259 here] after reading a threatening message from a [[Power Limiter|slime]]-[[Obfuscating Stupidity|sobered,]] [[Ax Crazy|ax-crazed,]] [[Super-Powered Evil Side|split]]-[[From Nobody to Nightmare|personality]] [[Mad Artist|Gamzee.]]

** Also [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005324 here.]

* [[Demon Head]]: He tends to appear like this whenever he gets particularly angry at the kids. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004825 Oh jeez.]

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* [[Grumpy Bear]]: A given, being the [[Foil]] of the relentlessly optimistic John.

* [[Hair Trigger Temper]]

* [[Hair-Trigger Temper]]

* [[Hates Everyone Equally]]

* [[Heroic BSOD]]: When [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004370 Sollux dies.]

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* [[Interspecies Romance]]: As of the beginning of the second half of Act 5, it has been revealed that he once harbored blackrom feelings for John.

** As well as potential redrom for Jade. At least enough that he [[White Knighting|trolled himself over it.]]

* [[~~Its~~ All My Fault]]: During the first [[Heroic BSOD]].

* [[It's All My Fault]]: During the first [[Heroic BSOD]].

** Somewhat about Sollux's ~ATH curse as well.

* [[Jaw Drop]]: [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005249 This] panel after seeing a bunch of shocking revelations. It's become a fandom meme.

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* [[The Movie Buff]]: as part of his [[Foil]] nature to John - although Karkat specialises in Troll Romantic Comedies, making him an expert at deciphering issues of Troll Romance.

* [[My God What Have I Done]]: Apparently he always apologizes profusely and asks if they're still friends whenever he blows up at Sollux. Which is often.

* [[My God, What Have I Done?]]: Apparently he always apologizes profusely and asks if they're still friends whenever he blows up at Sollux. Which is often.

** And then a serious use when he runs Sollux's code, and again when Sollux dies.

** Later, he realizes that his hurry to beat the Black King instead of find the penultimate frog led to the Cancer in John's universe and all the post-game problems in his.

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* [[Narcissist]]: Inverted. Karkat practically is his own kismesis with his future & past selves, whom he loathes intensely, something that unsettles him when he thinks about it and provides fodder for mockery by Terezi and others.

* [[Never My Fault]]: Zig-zagged. Karkat is less likely to accept responsibility for his actions and more likely to blame his [[I Hate Past Me|past or future selves.]] [[Mind Screw|Even though they're him.]] But when REALLY bad things happen, he blames himself for it if he had even the slightest involvement in it.

* [[Nice Job Breaking It Hero]]:

* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]]:

** He executes Sollux's code. You know, the one that ''curses everyone the user knows''. The result is [[Wham Episode|not pretty]]. However he really didn't have a choice in it; Aradia went back and corrected the timeline so he had to. If she hadn't Gamzee would have gone crazy much earlier and killed all the Trolls.

** His haste in beating the game without properly understanding the frog breeding process gave the kids' ''entire universe'' cancer.

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* [[Only Sane Man]]: Plays this role to the rest of the trolls; compared to all the others, he really is shockingly ''[[The Generic Guy|normal]]'', he comments on this, specifying that the only troll in the group who is more sane tends to be Kanaya.

* [[Pet the Dog]]: [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003970 What's on the fridge, Karkat?]

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** He is the Knight of Blood. What that means is unknown, but common fan speculation revolves around the above.

* [[Real Men Wear Pink]]: Has a fascination with romantic comedies.

* [[The Reason You Suck Speech]]: Gave a particularly [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|excellent]] one to [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004078 Vriska]. And a [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004752 smaller one] to himself.

* [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]]: Gave a particularly [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|excellent]] one to [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004078 Vriska]. And a [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004752 smaller one] to himself.

* [[Red Herring]]: Disregard that crying Karkat seemingly about to get murdered by Gamzee, they're both okay. Seems to have been an alternate timeline at the moment.

* [[Red Oni Blue Oni]]: With John. To put it in perspective: John's battle theme is titled "Showtime", whereas Karkat's is "Showdown". Also literal in that Karkat's "theme" color is red, while John's is blue.

* [[Red Oni, Blue Oni]]: With John. To put it in perspective: John's battle theme is titled "Showtime", whereas Karkat's is "Showdown". Also literal in that Karkat's "theme" color is red, while John's is blue.

* [[The Resenter]]: Towards John, to the point where [[Foe Yay|he develops a crush on him]]. Kismesis crush anyways. Eventually, he becomes friends with John. He ends up resenting his past self as well, unable to believe the way he acted mere hours ago.

** He is ''not'' fond of Dave either.

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* [[Sinister Scythe]]: Well, a sickle.

* [[Sir Swearsalot]]: Distinguished from the other foulmouths by being a meticulous swearsmith; he proudly hand-crafts his obscenity for special delivery. When he's being friendly, or even contrite, he's still casual with the generic f-bombs.

** John eventually lampshades Karkat's [[Cluster F Bomb]] tendencies:

** John eventually lampshades Karkat's [[Cluster F-Bomb]] tendencies:

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* [[The Sleepless]]: Apparently went almost a month through the entire Troll session without sleeping ''once''. While sleep seems to be less of a requirement in the Incipisphere, it's still pretty necessary and Karkat mentions occasionally that he is incredibly tired. In all of canon he's only been shown to be asleep for an hour or so.

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