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*** Want to make it even worse? Think about this: Jade and Jadesprite are variations on the same person, and the real Jade has seen all of the trauma that Jadesprite has and a lot more to go with it. So why isn't she having a massive breakdown too? Well, look at what she's calling Jadesprite - selfish and weak, accusing her of letting everyone down. Think about the implications there: she's probably going to hold her actual self to the same standards as her spriteself. In other words, she's [[Stepford Smiler|suppressing a FUCK of a lot of trauma]] - dying, losing half her life on Prospit, watching a Dave be killed (not permanently, but still horrifying), losing her guardian, blaming herself as the game becomes unwinnable, and being faced with an unbeatable murderous monster that could appear anywhere at any time - because she feels like if she freaks out over all of that, it's a despicable weakness and she's letting her friends down. That's an unreasonable expectation for an adult to have, and she's thirteen.
*** Want to make it even worse? Think about this: Jade and Jadesprite are variations on the same person, and the real Jade has seen all of the trauma that Jadesprite has and a lot more to go with it. So why isn't she having a massive breakdown too? Well, look at what she's calling Jadesprite - selfish and weak, accusing her of letting everyone down. Think about the implications there: she's probably going to hold her actual self to the same standards as her spriteself. In other words, she's [[Stepford Smiler|suppressing a FUCK of a lot of trauma]] - dying, losing half her life on Prospit, watching a Dave be killed (not permanently, but still horrifying), losing her guardian, blaming herself as the game becomes unwinnable, and being faced with an unbeatable murderous monster that could appear anywhere at any time - because she feels like if she freaks out over all of that, it's a despicable weakness and she's letting her friends down. That's an unreasonable expectation for an adult to have, and she's thirteen.
** To say nothing of Karkat making her realize how [[Not So Different]] she is from him in that scene.
** To say nothing of Karkat making her realize how [[Not So Different]] she is from him in that scene.
*** Which actually ends up with a [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] when Jade sees it isn't such a bad thing and they make amends, apparently going on to become [[Fire Forged Friends]] if Karkat's messages from the future can be trusted.
*** Which actually ends up with a [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] when Jade sees it isn't such a bad thing and they make amends, apparently going on to become [[Fire-Forged Friends]] if Karkat's messages from the future can be trusted.
* [[The Woobie|Wayward Vagabond needs a hug.]] He'll never forget his past failure, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005171 even] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005185 while] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005187 he] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005189 is] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005190 asleep.]
* [[The Woobie|Wayward Vagabond needs a hug.]] He'll never forget his past failure, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005171 even] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005185 while] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005187 he] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005189 is] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005190 asleep.]
* Tavros, ever the quintessential [[Woobie]], is rewarded for showing a little backbone and standing up to Vriska by being impaled with his own lance and thrown off a cliff. Again.
* Tavros, ever the quintessential [[Woobie]], is rewarded for showing a little backbone and standing up to Vriska by being impaled with his own lance and thrown off a cliff. Again.
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* The reveal that Gamzee, who had always come across as a generally sweet, friendly and easygoing person, is actually a murderous sociopath whose [[Split Personality|split personality]] had been being kept in check by his constant consumption of sopor slime was not only [[Nightmare Fuel|nightmare-inducingly horrifying]] but utterly crushing.
* The reveal that Gamzee, who had always come across as a generally sweet, friendly and easygoing person, is actually a murderous sociopath whose [[Split Personality|split personality]] had been being kept in check by his constant consumption of sopor slime was not only [[Nightmare Fuel|nightmare-inducingly horrifying]] but utterly crushing.
* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005260 This memo,] The part where past Feferi responds is severely gut wrenching.
* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005260 This memo,] The part where past Feferi responds is severely gut wrenching.
** Indeed. Even if you've made it through the last several comics without cracking, [[Its All My Fault|that is sure to break you.]]
** Indeed. Even if you've made it through the last several comics without cracking, [[It's All My Fault|that is sure to break you.]]
** [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005261 And on the next page...] CCG: SHE WAS MY REALLY *GOOD* FRIEND AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO NOW THAT SHE'S GONE. Then it [[Mood Whiplash|rapidly segues back into horror.]]
** [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005261 And on the next page...] CCG: SHE WAS MY REALLY *GOOD* FRIEND AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO NOW THAT SHE'S GONE. Then it [[Mood Whiplash|rapidly segues back into horror.]]
* The [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005284 2xCorpsesmooch Combo] is funny, but also sad because Karkat is crying as he does it - it's obvious he's hoping against hope here. Made even worse by the preceding chatlogs, wherein it's pretty clear he was bordering on redrom (platonic <> probably) with Kanaya, and this just hammers it home.
* The [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005284 2xCorpsesmooch Combo] is funny, but also sad because Karkat is crying as he does it - it's obvious he's hoping against hope here. Made even worse by the preceding chatlogs, wherein it's pretty clear he was bordering on redrom (platonic <> probably) with Kanaya, and this just hammers it home.
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*** He stumbles across the bodies. That counts, unfortunately. It's also epic [[Mood Whiplash]], as the previous panels were filled with hilarious [[Crazy Awesome]].
*** He stumbles across the bodies. That counts, unfortunately. It's also epic [[Mood Whiplash]], as the previous panels were filled with hilarious [[Crazy Awesome]].
* Rose's [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005537 expression] when she looks into her crystal ball and sees that Jack has killed her mother.
* Rose's [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005537 expression] when she looks into her crystal ball and sees that Jack has killed her mother.
** Given Rose's attitude towards her at the beginning, it's also sort of heartwarming in an [[Aw Look They Really Do Love Each Other]] sort of way. Doesn't make it any less sad, though.
** Given Rose's attitude towards her at the beginning, it's also sort of heartwarming in an [[Aw, Look -- They Really Do Love Each Other]] sort of way. Doesn't make it any less sad, though.
** And Rose's [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005538 conversation with Jade] afterwards, at least until she starts going insane.
** And Rose's [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005538 conversation with Jade] afterwards, at least until she starts going insane.
** Especially this little line. Rose ''immediately'' starts blaming herself.
** Especially this little line. Rose ''immediately'' starts blaming herself.
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* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005595 [S] Seer: Descend], especially towards the end; [[Dramatic Irony]] at its worst.
* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005595 [S] Seer: Descend], especially towards the end; [[Dramatic Irony]] at its worst.
** Near the beginning, attempting to examine MOM and DAD's bodies does nothing; the only message you will get is "There is no sign of Jack Noir up here. Must be somewhere in the castle," which is produced by examining any spot on the screen. There are two reasons why this could be. One is that she's trying very hard not to think about it and focusing on revenge. Another is that she no longer cares [[Department of Redundancy Department|and is still focused on revenge]].
** Near the beginning, attempting to examine MOM and DAD's bodies does nothing; the only message you will get is "There is no sign of Jack Noir up here. Must be somewhere in the castle," which is produced by examining any spot on the screen. There are two reasons why this could be. One is that she's trying very hard not to think about it and focusing on revenge. Another is that she no longer cares [[Department of Redundancy Department|and is still focused on revenge]].
** As you descend into the castles you find more and more corpses of Dersites and Prospitians, but you do encounter a few surviviors: one hiding behind a pillar, and a group in a secret room plotting a futile counterattack. It turns out that, as Rose spoke with John, [[Kill Em All|Jack returned]].
** As you descend into the castles you find more and more corpses of Dersites and Prospitians, but you do encounter a few surviviors: one hiding behind a pillar, and a group in a secret room plotting a futile counterattack. It turns out that, as Rose spoke with John, [[Kill'Em All|Jack returned]].
** The [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005596 [S] ==>] after it is worse. Jack stabs John through the freaking chest before they get a chance to fight.
** The [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005596 [S] ==>] after it is worse. Jack stabs John through the freaking chest before they get a chance to fight.
* Dave's [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005598 conversation] with Terezi after finding Bro's body. The poor guy is obviously having serious trouble working out his emotions, and having a personal crisis over his role in the game at the same time.
* Dave's [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005598 conversation] with Terezi after finding Bro's body. The poor guy is obviously having serious trouble working out his emotions, and having a personal crisis over his role in the game at the same time.
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* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005903 This] series of panels actually give us a huge amount of exposition into various... shenanigans. But the saddest part of it all is probably the emotions that Karkat is going through when he wrote this. This is probably also the first time he genuinely says sorry, and he does it with full emotion.
* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005903 This] series of panels actually give us a huge amount of exposition into various... shenanigans. But the saddest part of it all is probably the emotions that Karkat is going through when he wrote this. This is probably also the first time he genuinely says sorry, and he does it with full emotion.
** I THINK I GAVE HIM CANCER. And then [[Tropers/Pro-Mole|my]] heart was wrenched.
** I THINK I GAVE HIM CANCER. And then [[Tropers/Pro-Mole|my]] heart was wrenched.
* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005940 After] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005941 strifing] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005942 Doc] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005943 Scratch] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005944 becomes] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005945 hopeless,] the imprisoned Handmaid feels [[Driven to Suicide]] (which she attempts by self-inflicted [[Electric Torture]]), [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005948 and] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005949 fails.] [[Fridge Horror|Which is worse,]] [[Fate Worse Than Death|the reason]] the Handmaid is held captive in a [[Gilded Cage]], the [[Unnecessary Combat Roll]] to [[Better to Die Than Be Killed|suicide]] after failing the [[Damsel Fight and Flight Response]], [[Take a Third Option|OR]] the [[Epic Fail]] of [[Window Pain|all]] [[Foe Tossing Charge|three]] [[Shock and Awe|responses?]]
* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005940 After] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005941 strifing] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005942 Doc] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005943 Scratch] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005944 becomes] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005945 hopeless,] the imprisoned Handmaid feels [[Driven to Suicide]] (which she attempts by self-inflicted [[Electric Torture]]), [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005948 and] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005949 fails.] [[Fridge Horror|Which is worse,]] [[Fate Worse Than Death|the reason]] the Handmaid is held captive in a [[Gilded Cage]], the [[Unnecessary Combat Roll]] to [[Better to Die Than Be Killed|suicide]] after failing the [[Damsel Fight and Flight Response]], [[Take a Third Option|OR]] the [[Epic Fail]] of [[Window Pain|all]] [[Foe-Tossing Charge|three]] [[Shock and Awe|responses?]]
* [http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005953 This page]:
* [http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005953 This page]:
{{quote| Doc Scratch: "Once, in this very universe, you could say, Alternia was home to a peaceful race. Trollkind had never known the corrupting influence in their evolution which led them to perpetual war and violence."<br />
{{quote| Doc Scratch: "Once, in this very universe, you could say, Alternia was home to a peaceful race. Trollkind had never known the corrupting influence in their evolution which led them to perpetual war and violence."<br />
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TT: Two perfect little freaks of nature raised by people who've clearly got no business bringin' up anybody.]] }}
TT: Two perfect little freaks of nature raised by people who've clearly got no business bringin' up anybody.]] }}
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* [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006398 NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO][http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006399 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!]
* Oh god, when Jake asks Jane about her feelings for him, it's starts off funny as she freaks and says she doesn't ([[Will They or Won't They|but she does really, we all know this]]) and then [[Crowning Moment of Funny|thinks]] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006488 this.] It started off funny, but then everybody saw her slowly get hysterical in the conversation, as Jake stated that he thought she had ''had'' a crush on him, and more or less expressed the chance of being gay. We then see her thoughts again two pages after the first time, where she's almost in ''tears.''
* Oh god, when Jake asks Jane about her feelings for him, it's starts off funny as she freaks and says she doesn't ([[Will They or Won't They?|but she does really, we all know this]]) and then [[Crowning Moment of Funny|thinks]] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006488 this.] It started off funny, but then everybody saw her slowly get hysterical in the conversation, as Jake stated that he thought she had ''had'' a crush on him, and more or less expressed the chance of being gay. We then see her thoughts again two pages after the first time, where she's almost in ''tears.''
* The recent revelation that Dirk and Roxy are in the future has a lot of this. They're forced to watch Jake and Jane mucking around happily in a beautiful world they know will soon be destroyed without even being able to warn them of what will happen. The romantic situation as well: maybe Roxy was trying to set Jane and Jake up so they could at least have each other when everything went to shit? And then there's Dirk falling for a guy he was separated from not only by distance but also several ''hundred'' years of time...
* The recent revelation that Dirk and Roxy are in the future has a lot of this. They're forced to watch Jake and Jane mucking around happily in a beautiful world they know will soon be destroyed without even being able to warn them of what will happen. The romantic situation as well: maybe Roxy was trying to set Jane and Jake up so they could at least have each other when everything went to shit? And then there's Dirk falling for a guy he was separated from not only by distance but also several ''hundred'' years of time...
** Some may think the "beautiful world" was not destroyed, but made better, and feel happy for Roxy and Dirk instead.
** Some may think the "beautiful world" was not destroyed, but made better, and feel happy for Roxy and Dirk instead.
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