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== UU is a Chimera ==
See, there's this biological phenomenon called chimerism, which is basically the opposite of identical twins? Instead of one fertilized egg producing two identical babies, two or more fertilized eggs produce one individual with a patchwork of different DNA. If one of the contributing zygotes is genetically male and the other is genetically female, chimerism can result in an intersex individual. And in people, one of the most common symptoms of chimerism is actually the person in question having more than one blood type running through their veins.
Maybe the Uu session's ectobiology machine glitched, and instead of producing two offspring grubs from their ancestor/s' paradox slime, it produced a chimera grub with a mixed blood color (black blood? tie-dye christmas blood? Who even the fuck knows) and mixed sex traits. Sburb, realizing it done fucked up, then induced Multiple Personality Disorder in the patchwork trollbaby so that the minimum number of people needed to play Sburb could be achieved.
Time shenanigans via Trollian and sburb-granted time powers will probably need to be liberally used, though, in order to make entering the medium Not Fucking Impossible.
Dreamselves tend to be closer to the individual's personal image of themself (terezi likes being blind and thus her dreamself is blind, while tavros doesn't like being crippled and so his dreamself can walk), so UU and uu's seperate dreamselves could manifest as having the blood color and physical sex that they imagine they would have if they hadn't been merged into a single person at inception. Assuming that the recent Calmasis' Legs panel is more indicative of their blood color than their chat symbols are, UU identifies as a redblood because she is a bluh bluh huge humaboo or some shit.
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== UU is not to be trusted. ==
One of the major themes of Homestuck is fighting destiny, predestination, and being forced to do things simply because time says so. UU has been careful to avoid "causal spoilers", but she told Jane what is possibly the biggest one--that Jane's session succeeds.
* UU's symbol is the caduceus, used by Hermes, the Greek god of thieves and liars who also guides souls to the underworld (although the other wiki uses a symbol that looks like the rod of Asclepius (see below), a healer who could talk to animals thanks to some friendly snakes cleaning his
== UU will give bad advice. ==
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*** [[Word of God]] is that he's just some big lobster monster, and not any sort of troll or lusus. Having blood off the hemospectrum entirely was Hussie's way of showing this.
** If there's more of UU's kind they'll all have eye-shatteringly bright (acid?) blood. Additionally, all the other "cheers" have pastel-colored, sorry, coloUred blood because they're the opposite of the trolls.
** Not only is His Honorable Tyranny not a troll, but we have [[Word of God]] that [https://web.archive.org/web/20130312060020/http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/14210746202/mad-answerins lime is the only one not accounted for so far], having been seen on the walls of [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005414 the Grand Highblood's room].<ref>(Supposedly, anyway. I'll be damned if I can find it...)</ref><ref>(Look at the dark green blood patches, there are slightly lighter splotches nearby. Think he meant that.)</ref> Note that UU's caduceus symbol is '''{{color|lime|lime}}'''-coloUred.
* Assuming UU isn't lying, this WMG is [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006862 confirmed].
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== UU will be a Hero of Life. ==
The overt symbolic connection between her pseudo-caduceus symbol / her horns and a DNA double-helix / the wavy tendril of the Life symbol make this one a good fit too.
== UU must be the Hero of Space or Time. Unless... ==
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== uranianUmbra is one of the Game's developers. ==
Or at least an Alpha Tester. This would give reason to why they know so much about the game even though they said this would be their first time playing- they're lying by omission. This also could explain why they hope the Alphas play the game- really, who wouldn't want to see their game unfold on their characters?
* She's researched it as a historian. But these things aren't mutually exclusive.
** uu's comments seem to support this, as they are playing Sburb mostly to escape the incoming Reckoning; unless that is a well understood phenomenon by society and Sburb is widespread and they are simply playing the game together
Also, in their first scene, they're playing "Homestuck" as a [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006014 text-based adventure game,] which could mean that they might not be playing an S-game at all, but communicating to the children through the Text-game.
== UU has some relation to Rose or Dirk ==
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== UU is Calmasis, and is a son or grandson of Skaia, or something similar ==
[https://web.archive.org/web/20120124203727/http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/File:AHTrollmake-up.png AH in Troll makeup]
[http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/File:CotL_cover.gif Calmasis]
[http://images.wikia.com/mspaintadventures/images/9/98/UU%27s_hands.gif UU's sleaves]{{Dead link}}
My guess is that UU is the same race AH and Charles s Dutton are (mentioned on the wiki as the son and respectively grandson of Skaia), and posesses similar traits.
Also Calmasis is an 8 letter word (same as with the ancestors), while Andrew Hussie is 6/6 (just like regular trolls). Predicant Scholar is 9/7 and sounds a lot like a Prospitian/Dersite name. I have no idea if this is significant in any way whatsoever.
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** 2 player session implies Time or Space.
*** Unless UU and uu are actually the same person. A one-player session has not been discussed, but could very well mean Doom rather than Space.
*** Or neither of them are actually Heroes of Space or Time. The four Alpha kids didn't get either, likely because their session knows that they will be joined by other Heroes of Time and Space shortly. This makes it likely that UU and uu fall in the pool of Blood, Rage, Mind and Doom.
*** The Alpha Session is unique.
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* More heavily supported again by [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006761 Calmasis apparently being representative of UU and uu both.]
* Possibly proven during uu's game with Dirk:
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{{color|#323232| uu: AND WHY THE FuCK NOT??}}
{{color|orange| TT: Well, because...}}
{{color|orange| TT: I don't know.}}
{{color|orange| TT: Maybe you're right. Maybe I was being close-minded about self-pairing. What do I know?}}
{{color|#323232| uu: JACK SHIT OBVIOuSLY.}} }}
* The updates following [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006929 this page] bring to mind a certain [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS2fRUP8zJ8 Pixar short] about a man playing competitive chess [[Mirror Match|against himself]]. The back-and-forth pesterlogs (UU makes her move, monologues, and leaves; uu makes his move, monologues, and leaves; repeat) don't hurt this idea either- they're leaving messages for each other, hence why blocking doesn't work.
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== UU and uu are from a universe which has already played Sburb. ==
The latter's dialog heavily suggests that the word they are from is a "DESOLATE ROCK" with a "FuCK" That's a fair description of a post-Reckoning planet, and UU seems to be using an exile terminal to watch the kids.
* uu might simply have future knowledge of the Reckoning.
* Actually, if UU has lime-colored blood, that would match the color of The Felt's membership along with The First Guardians, right? What if UU/uu simply hail from a universe inside the Green Sun, or destroyed by Lord English's conquest?
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* Capricornus: Gadott (Waloon)
* Aquarius: Verseu (French)
** Drakma (after ''[[
** Both Aranea and Meenah were previously suggested names (For Vriska and Feferi respectively, of course.) It's likely based on this that Hussie will continue to name the prescratch ancestors in this way- picking up long forgotten suggestions for the scratched session trolls.
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* Aradia: Not sure about this, how would Aradia's ancestor be if there were no Felt/Doc Scratch to enslave her? My guess was going to be that she wanted freedom.
* Tavros: Remember how everyone thought Tavros would be a huge jerk when he was first shown? The pre-scratch Tavros had that personality, and just wanted to be nicer and incapable of hate.
* Sollux:
* Karkat:
* Nepeta:
* Kanaya:
* Terezi:
* Vriska: Already stated.
* Equius:
* Gamzee:
* Eridan
* Feferi: Wanted to be a kind and understanding ruler.
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== Meenah will leave her dream bubble ==
Ponder this text from UU.
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{{color|#929292|UU: bUt if their classes are different enoUgh as well, that is, one active and the other passive, remarkably there is a chance they coUld end Up with very similar abilities!}} }}
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== The pre-Scratch Ancestors escaped the Scratch ==
I know, this doesn't make any sense, right? They're all quite clearly dead.
Except...
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It's already established that Void blocks out Doc Scratch omniscience. But UU takes it a step further and says Void can ''destroy'' knowledge. Which seems to indicate some form of altering memories. Depending on pre-Scratch Darkleer's abilities, he could have blacked out the entire session and erased the memories of their doomed timeline counterparts, making them think they were from the alpha timeline. In other words, [[Did You Just Scam Cthulhu?|they pranked]] [[Laser-Guided Karma|Doc Scratch]]. And he still wouldn't be lying about his earlier statement, because doomed timeline players are failed heroes, after a fashion.
How did the alpha timeline trolls physically leave their session then? This is where Roxy's dream self and [[The Great Flood]] references come into play. The B2 kids somehow create an [[The Ark|Ark]] for the A1 session, which Roxy sends through the void using her Message In A Bottle Modus. They could probably also send Jake's size changers (the ones Liv Tyler has) so they could grow/shrink the Ark, and maybe other things too. Like their planets. And then they blast off for eithier the Furthest Ring or another Yellow Yard that Hussie set up in secret. This will make them a [[Spanner in
Speaking of Hussie, this troper guesses the Hussie that died was also a doomed timeline self, and the real Hussie is hiding out in a secret base somewhere, explaining why he can still narrate even though he's dead (Dream Bubbles are not the Fourth Wall). A revelation like this is just the sort of thing Hussie would parody with a fourth wall breaking segment.
Convoluted and complicated? Yes. But this is Homestuck.
* First and largest problem: it was Meenah's plan specifically that saved them from utter destruction. While what exactly the Life aspect does is still ambiguous, and it may very well cover the use of alternate selves, the fact remains that Meenah's plan couldn't invoke the use of the Hero of Void, especially given Aranea says nobody liked Meenah at all.
** Secondly, the Aranea we see is God Tiered. A God Tiered player tricked into being a sacrifice with implanted memories probably wouldn't even qualify as Heroic or Just, whereas the implication otherwise is that Aranea died in a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] against Meenah.
** Thirdly, without a God Tiered Seer of Light, there's virtually no way they could have navigated to the Alpha Session anyways; a Slyph's domain doesn't cover that and we have no idea who the Seer of the session was, if there even was one. Even Terezi's abilities weren't even enough to navigate the Furthest Ring, Rose's specific abilities were uniquely suited to the task
** Fourthly, there's far too much extrapolation here. The Alpha Kids don't even know who the Pre-Scratch Trolls are, and given Meenah attempted to murder Roxy might not even care if they die! There's no indication that Void powers can alter memories, and there's no way without the influence of the Handmaid's duplicate that the doomed timeline doubles could be part of the plan. Not to mention there's no sign of Trolls ''anywhere'' in the Alpha Sessions mythology and all signs point to them dying at some point; there's already room enough for them to be a [[Spanner in
** Lastly, the Green Sun's ignition and flash came only a fair amount of time after the Trolls completed their session; given the dire straits the Pre-Scratch Session was in (seemingly identical to those of the Beta Human Session), they wouldn't have had time to see the flash and know where to go.
* Going with '''Jossed''' for a writing reason: Andrew is culiminating a variety of arcs and the story is winding down now, despite evidence to the contrary. Not many characters have been introduced completely new at this stage; only UU and uu are completely new to Act 6, and even they are reflections of Karkat. With all the plot threads Andrew is busy tying closed, it's extremely unlikely that he will introduce 12 largely new characters (as the theory relies on the fact that they are different from the Aranea and Meenah we saw) and save them, especially when the prophecy about the total deaths of all the original 12 trolls is taken into account. The theory hinges on an interpretation that Aranea and Doc didn't say the same thing, which is total YMMV. Aranea's comments are the same as Doc's when you consider she probably meant "current forms" as in their iterations as players. From there, the theory dances on so many loose connections that it's impossible to put any weight on it.
* Meanwhile, Meenah apparently killed everyone using her session's Tumor.
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* Got the genders/tags mixed up there?
** Jossed by the mechanics of the game; the two of them are the only players in their session, so therefore they must be Time and Space, which are required for every Session, including unsuccessful ones.
*** I mean, Skaia knew that the Alpha session would be joined by the Beta session, so who's to say they HAVE to be Time and Space?
*** [[Word of God]] is that those are the only two necessary elements. The Alpha Session's mythology has made it ''completely'' apparent at every stage of the information given about it that it has eight players, whereas the UU session is said to only have two. If their session was going to be added to in some fashion, it would be apparent. Besides, the Alpha Session is essentially unique, as it took a ridiculously specific set of circumstances to get the Beta Kids to the Alpha Session.
** The sole exception is if UU and uu are a single individual, in which case they might be a Hero of Doom, however that is a separate WMG already covered above.
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== Meenah will eventually use her Thief of Life powers to bring herself and/or the other Pre-Scratch trolls (or at least Aranea) back to life and then they will attempt to defeat Lord English ==
It's said that Lord English can only be destroyed through a number of time-based glitches and loopholes. What's a bigger glitch/loophole than twelve trolls, whose timeline has been eliminated from the face of existence, coming back to life? In fact that might even be the reason why Meenah attacked Roxy in the first place, she was going to steal Roxy's life so that she could use it to help revive the others! Or at least revive Aranea if there are no others.
* Jossed via misunderstand. That doesn't fit in with the role of a Thief; that's much more in line with a Rogue of Life than anything else. However, Meenah as the Thief of Life has both the literal interpretation of her title, that she's a murderer and ruined the lives of the others with sburb, or a more metaphorical take, in that her alternate as the Condesce basically distorted Alternia to the point where virtually all the other Ancestors were completely miserable, save herself.
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Just based on the fact their post-scratch selves are extremely close, with the Sufferer being basically the only troll raised by another troll, and the Dolorosa being pretty much the only troll to raise another troll.
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