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== Lord English and Jack Noir are the same being ==
== Lord English and Jack Noir are the same being ==
The latest flash game seems to hint heavily toward this direction, since Karkat mentions that he recognized "the demon" that destroyed their universe. Therefore, it's highly probable that "Lord English" is in fact the fully prototyped version of Jack Noir from the kids' session, who somehow ended up being warped into the trolls' session by the rift. The last prototyping (especially if Bec ends up being prototyped) is likely to elevate Noir's power level to [[Game Breaker]] territory.
The latest flash game seems to hint heavily toward this direction, since Karkat mentions that he recognized "the demon" that destroyed their universe. Therefore, it's highly probable that "Lord English" is in fact the fully prototyped version of Jack Noir from the kids' session, who somehow ended up being warped into the trolls' session by the rift. The last prototyping (especially if Bec ends up being prototyped) is likely to elevate Noir's power level to [[Game Breaker]] territory.
** As of "[s] Jade: Enter," theory <s>completely confirmed</s> [http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1690617240 officially inconclusive]
** As of "[s] Jade: Enter," theory <s>completely confirmed</s> [http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1690617240 officially inconclusive]{{Dead link}}
*** As of later developments; probably not!
*** As of later developments; probably not!


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** One Fan Fiction dubbed it the Arachnid's Grip after Vriska's chat handle.
** One Fan Fiction dubbed it the Arachnid's Grip after Vriska's chat handle.
** Fluorite Octet + Pop-a-matic Doomsday Cascader + Quills of Echinda + Warhammer of Zillyhoo = Fluoromatic Quillyhoo
** Fluorite Octet + Pop-a-matic Doomsday Cascader + Quills of Echinda + Warhammer of Zillyhoo = Fluoromatic Quillyhoo
* Jossed; Hussie referred to it as the "Pop-A-Matic Vrillyhoo Hammer" [http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11975241895/about-eoa5-part-4 here].
* Jossed; Hussie referred to it as the "Pop-A-Matic Vrillyhoo Hammer" [https://web.archive.org/web/20130628222731/http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11975241895/about-eoa5-part-4 here].


== Dave becomes Lord English ==
== Dave becomes Lord English ==
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I suggest we wait for the next update with Jade and John, as well as everyone else. Because that could disprove everything. Ha-durp.
I suggest we wait for the next update with Jade and John, as well as everyone else. Because that could disprove everything. Ha-durp.
* Hussie has [http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11975241895/about-eoa5-part-4 said] that the progression of images shown by the wall were being flashed by Lord English's coat, and are only symbolic of the Scratch undoing everything that has happened in the story.
* Hussie has [https://web.archive.org/web/20130628222731/http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11975241895/about-eoa5-part-4 said] that the progression of images shown by the wall were being flashed by Lord English's coat, and are only symbolic of the Scratch undoing everything that has happened in the story.


== The Jade from Davesprite's timeline will be Lord English's new servant. ==
== The Jade from Davesprite's timeline will be Lord English's new servant. ==
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== 1 yard is how HIGH you have to be to put jelly on a hot god. ==
== 1 yard is how HIGH you have to be to put jelly on a hot god. ==
* Building on this, a "hot god" is actually a specific type of horrorterror of above-average attractiveness. Jelly is... I dunno, probably just jelly. But it's gotta do something.
* Building on this, a "hot god" is actually a specific type of horrorterror of above-average attractiveness. Jelly is... I dunno, probably just jelly. But it's gotta do something.
** [http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11975241895/about-eoa5-part-4 Jossed.] Scroll down to the section titled "The 4th Wall".
** [https://web.archive.org/web/20130628222731/http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11975241895/about-eoa5-part-4 Jossed.] Scroll down to the section titled "The 4th Wall".


== The cast of [[Problem Sleuth]] are either Prospitian exiles from the Trolls' session, or descendants thereof. ==
== The cast of [[Problem Sleuth]] are either Prospitian exiles from the Trolls' session, or descendants thereof. ==
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* Or we could simply say, no probably not. Andrew for instance has left open that other human sessions escaped up to whatever number you feel like, and the rebooted session the Kids will be in will have 8 players via technicality. Extrapolation from 3 points, including one that has only been referenced ''once'' is a bit silly don't you think.
* Or we could simply say, no probably not. Andrew for instance has left open that other human sessions escaped up to whatever number you feel like, and the rebooted session the Kids will be in will have 8 players via technicality. Extrapolation from 3 points, including one that has only been referenced ''once'' is a bit silly don't you think.


== [http://www.formspring.me/mspadventures/q/207067705008752445 This formspring] was a [[Sarcastic Confession]]. ==
== [https://web.archive.org/web/20110902053832/http://www.formspring.me/mspadventures/q/207067705008752445 This formspring] was a [[Sarcastic Confession]]. ==
On the game's Captchacard, the acts so far have been represented by red dots if kid-centered, blue if troll-centered; both are done with, the next acts green and white. It's been pretty clear since the end of Act 4 that the story is taking us to the Outer Rings. Feferi showed us that the Horrorterrors and the Squiddles are one and the same. Now we truly meet the Noble Circle in the Furthest Ring, represented by green, after which white represents the surviving Gods: John, Aradia, one from the session that created Alternia, and fedoraFreak.
On the game's Captchacard, the acts so far have been represented by red dots if kid-centered, blue if troll-centered; both are done with, the next acts green and white. It's been pretty clear since the end of Act 4 that the story is taking us to the Outer Rings. Feferi showed us that the Horrorterrors and the Squiddles are one and the same. Now we truly meet the Noble Circle in the Furthest Ring, represented by green, after which white represents the surviving Gods: John, Aradia, one from the session that created Alternia, and fedoraFreak.
* Or more plausibly, Act 6 is green because it will involve Lord English much more and begins with the explosion of the Green Sun. Act 7 is white most likely to show that it is beyond all of the game stuff, as it is going to be entirely epilogue.
* Or more plausibly, Act 6 is green because it will involve Lord English much more and begins with the explosion of the Green Sun. Act 7 is white most likely to show that it is beyond all of the game stuff, as it is going to be entirely epilogue.
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== The Writ Keeper has some sort of knowledge of the Trolls ==
== The Writ Keeper has some sort of knowledge of the Trolls ==
As said [http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Rose%27s_Journals here], "Complacency of the Learned" is a representation of Rose's subconscious mind telling the origins of her universe - ie the Trolls. If the Writ Keeper can pick up on that (likely given him being the former White King)...well, now we know why [[Incredibly Lame Pun|the Writ needs a Keeper!]]
As said [https://web.archive.org/web/20131115202125/http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Rose%27s_journals here], "Complacency of the Learned" is a representation of Rose's subconscious mind telling the origins of her universe - ie the Trolls. If the Writ Keeper can pick up on that (likely given him being the former White King)...well, now we know why [[Incredibly Lame Pun|the Writ needs a Keeper!]]
** It would do him little to no good, given that he won't be able to interact with them except indirectly, and the Kids know plenty about the trolls.
** It would do him little to no good, given that he won't be able to interact with them except indirectly, and the Kids know plenty about the trolls.


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== Roxy, Dirk, and maybe Jake were sent to the future. ==
== Roxy, Dirk, and maybe Jake were sent to the future. ==
We know that Jake has to be in the present because we've seen him run around his island before it was submerged. While it's possible to sendificate, transportalize, and appearify across time and universes as well as space, the blurring glow as Dirk and Roxy exit to the surface may have indicates a time travel effect.
We know that Jake has to be in the present because we've seen him run around his island before it was submerged. While it's possible to sendificate, transportalize, and appearify across time and universes as well as space, the blurring glow as Dirk and Roxy exit to the surface may have indicates a time travel effect.
* [[Jossing]] my own entry here. [http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/18973262678/s-jane-enter Hussie has said on tumblr] that Dirk and Roxy were living in the future all along.
* [[Jossing]] my own entry here. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130312063511/http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/18973262678/s-jane-enter Hussie has said on tumblr] that Dirk and Roxy were living in the future all along.


== There are 12 "Anti-Trolls", and uranianUmbra is one of them. ==
== There are 12 "Anti-Trolls", and uranianUmbra is one of them. ==