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Of the 52 submarines lost by the U.S. Navy in World War II, at least one - the USS ''Corvina'' (SS-226) - was confirmed torpedoed and sunk by a Japanese submarine while running on the surface, while the Japanese lost five submarines to American submarine attacks. Three of the Japanese losses, all of them small RO-class boats, were credited to the USS ''Batfish'' during a single three-day period in February 1945. Two U-boat kills were also credited to American submarines, one being during WWI. Neither was confirmed.
However, whilst the crew of the HMS ''Venturer'' only [[
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* ''[[Submarine 707 R]]'' (Mission 2)
* ''[[The Silent Service]]''
* ''[[Cyborg 009]]'' features a scene where the team's mobile base is being pursued separately by both an American and Soviet sub. The heroes make their getaway when the two subs notice each other and begin fighting.
* [[Blue Submarine No.
* The final arc of the first season of ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]'' has both "war games" and actual shooting involving two submarines.
== [[Film]] ==
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* ''[[Crimson Tide]]''
* ''[[U-571]]'' does this, with the Americans in the captured German U-Boat destroying another submerged German U-Boat with torpedoes.
* ''[[G.I. Joe:
** It also features what amounts to the trench run in ''[[Star Wars]]'' Episode 4 [[In Space|UNDER WATER!]].
* ''[[Down Periscope]]'' involves a wargame that tests if a rogue [[World War Two]]-era diesel submarine, run by a [[Ragtag Bunch of Misfits]], is capable of outmaneuvering the US Navy and cause significant damage to major ports. The diesel's main opponent? A ''[
** The exercise included two simulated attacks on naval ports where the diesel sub is assumed to do significant damage. The first attack has a scene where the old boat surfaces and launches flares (stand-ins for actual weapons) in sight of two admirals eating dinner. The second one was where Admiral Winslow (Rip Torn) authorised the use of live torpedoes by Lt Commander Tom Dodge ([[Kelsey Grammer]]), in place of the flares.
* ''[[The Abyss]]'' deserves a mention here. The minisubs involved aren't fighting with weapons- they're fighting ''over'' a weapon.
** And fighting without weapons means ramming each other, brutally. Brilliant, and vastly under-rated action sequence.
* Another particularly brutal minisub duel occurs in the [[James Bond (
* ''Run Silent Run Deep'' depends on, and arguably laid the groundwork for this trope {{spoiler|since it turns out the Japanese vessel taking out American subs in the Bungo Straits is not a surface vessel, but another submarine}}.
** It is torpedoed when it is lured to the surface rather then under the surface. The original writer was a submariner himself.
== [[Literature]] ==
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* Averted in ''[[Das Boot]]'' and ''The Enemy Below''. Both of these are German U-boats versus Allied surface ships. In ''Das Boot'', the only encounter the U-Boat has with another submarine is almost colliding with one when they are both on the surface.
** And one of their own subs at that.
*** Most WWII sub movies are sub vs surface.
*** Though a Japanese sub is sunk in Run Silent, Run Deep. They had to lure it to the surface, and then fire the torpedo under a ship to hit the enemy sub.
* There's a sub v. sub fight in, of all places, [[Zombie Apocalypse]] novel ''[[World War Z]]''. And no, neither sub was piloted by Zombies. If they were, this entry would be on the [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] page.
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== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* ''[[
** The Japanese actually have the best sub-fighter pilots, since they have brain implants that jack into the sub-fighters and control the craft by thought. During the one episode they're shown, they manage to destroy one of the ''SeaQuest'' sub-fighters, piloted by a semi-regular character. She is promptly replaced by a rogue Japanese female pilot. Yes, they kill off one [[Twofer Token Minority]] (a black woman) to immediately replace her with another.
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** So did ''Red Faction II''. (To be fair, it also had an underwater base you needed to infiltrate.)
* The classic sub simulator ''688AttackSub'' features several Cold War-era missions that involve sub-on-sub combat.
* ''[[Submarine Titans]]'', a real-time strategy game taking place underwater with subs. Combat occurs at close range, but stray torpedoes can hit targets at a distance.
* [[Sid Meier]] also did a game version of ''[[Red Storm Rising]]'', which, like the novel mentioned above, has plenty of this.
** Completely [[Averted Trope|averted]] in the sequel, though. Japanese subs didn't even have any sprites.
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* ''[[X-COM]]: Terror From The Deep'' had this when intercepting alien craft. Then again, all of the alien races from this installment of the X-Com series were amphibious, traveled around in weird-looking submarines, and came from a colony ship that crashed some 65 million years ago.
** Also, for the sake of completeness, the submarines in the game are ''flying'' submarines. That's right: sufficient velocity to break the surface of the water means you can activate turbo jets and fly! Weapons only work underwater though (which generally makes sense: torpedoes don't have the right engines, the powerful sonic cannon apparently has vastly decreased range when you're traveling faster than the speed of sound, and the omni-powerful Pulse Wave Torpedo actually requires water to work properly).
* ''[[
** The ''Forged Alliance'' expansion pack adds torpedo bombers for each of the factions as a counter to this. Like the destroyer, they cannot be mass-produced in the numbers that submarines can, but it can destroy enemy subs without risking being hit by return fire (from the subs).
* ''[[Naval Ops|Warship Gunner 2]]'' allows you to engage enemy subs underwater if you're controlling a submarine. Note that you are completely [[Point Defenseless]] while submerged and submarines usually attack with torpedoes.
* Pretty much averted in ''[[Warcraft 2]]''. Submarines and sea turtles must surface to fire and can only be fired upon if a flying unit (griffon, dragon, helicopter, or zeppelin) can see them.
* In ''[[Command
* ''[[Steel Diver]]'' is a submarine action/simulation hybrid that bends a few rules of reality, and has some submarines as enemies.
* In ''[[Advance Wars]]'', sub-sub fights are quite common because submerged subs can only be attacked by cruisers and other subs. Given that cruisers are not constantly invisible and very vulnerable to battleships and bombers, they tend to be prime targets of opportunity and generally die quicker than subs. A sub attacking another sub will do between 55-65% damage; most sub battles end up with 8 HP on the attacker and 4 on the defender.
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== [[Western Animation]] ==
* An episode of ''[[The Simpsons]]'' {{context}}
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