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* In ''[[Gate Keepers]]'', Ukiya Shun is blessed by the Gate of Wind. It took him several episodes just to even know how to properly summon the power again (which he did in the first episode by accident), and an episode testing a new technique (which he later perfects).
* In ''[[Gate Keepers]]'', Ukiya Shun is blessed by the Gate of Wind. It took him several episodes just to even know how to properly summon the power again (which he did in the first episode by accident), and an episode testing a new technique (which he later perfects).
* The ''[[Rosario + Vampire]]'' manga has Tsukune kidnapped by a shapeshifter, who copies his form and goes out to fight Tsukune's [[Unwanted Harem]]. Unfortunately, the fellow runs into quite a few How Do I Shot Web? moments as he tries (in vain) to kill them, not realizing that he's far, far weaker than they are in human form. When he wises up and copies Moka's [[Super-Powered Evil Side]], he's beaten for good when the power of the rosary manages to weaken him.
* The ''[[Rosario + Vampire]]'' manga has Tsukune kidnapped by a shapeshifter, who copies his form and goes out to fight Tsukune's [[Unwanted Harem]]. Unfortunately, the fellow runs into quite a few How Do I Shot Web? moments as he tries (in vain) to kill them, not realizing that he's far, far weaker than they are in human form. When he wises up and copies Moka's [[Super-Powered Evil Side]], he's beaten for good when the power of the rosary manages to weaken him.
** Tsukune himself had a bit of trouble until he got some well-earned [[Training From Hell|training]] with Inner-Moka and Touhou Fuhai.
** Tsukune himself had a bit of trouble until he got some well-earned [[Training from Hell|training]] with Inner-Moka and Touhou Fuhai.
* Sort of happens to the protagonist of ''[[Prétear]]'', [[Magical Girl|Himeno Awayuki]]—more of "How Do I Shot Wind". It is implied that she ''should'' know instinctively how her [[Elemental Powers|powers]] work, but the first time she is forced to fight a monster, she panics and can't figure out what to do. However, this wasn't enough to make her give up, and she actually demands to receive some training in order to learn to use her powers properly.
* Sort of happens to the protagonist of ''[[Prétear]]'', [[Magical Girl|Himeno Awayuki]]—more of "How Do I Shot Wind". It is implied that she ''should'' know instinctively how her [[Elemental Powers|powers]] work, but the first time she is forced to fight a monster, she panics and can't figure out what to do. However, this wasn't enough to make her give up, and she actually demands to receive some training in order to learn to use her powers properly.
* Skuld gets this in ''[[Ah! My Goddess]]'' when she tries to develop her water powers. It doesn't work out, and she puts herself in danger by trying to accelerate things, this danger being caused by her proclivity for [[Tim Taylor Technology]].
* Skuld gets this in ''[[Ah! My Goddess]]'' when she tries to develop her water powers. It doesn't work out, and she puts herself in danger by trying to accelerate things, this danger being caused by her proclivity for [[Tim Taylor Technology]].
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* In ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', Ed learns of his ability to transmute without a circle by clasping his hands in frustration then grabbing a basin of water, heating it through alchemy to boiling temperature. Afterward, he has no clue how he managed to do it, and his attempts to reproduce the effect are unsuccessful until he finds himself in another emergency situation.
* In ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', Ed learns of his ability to transmute without a circle by clasping his hands in frustration then grabbing a basin of water, heating it through alchemy to boiling temperature. Afterward, he has no clue how he managed to do it, and his attempts to reproduce the effect are unsuccessful until he finds himself in another emergency situation.
** That, however, only happens in the first anime. In the manga and the remake, he just [[Possession Implies Mastery|instinctively knows]] that he can do it, what with having seen the Truth and all. This fits in better with how he was able to bond Al's soul to a suit of armor immediately after losing his leg, when alchemists who had devoted years of research to it had far less luck with human transmutation.
** That, however, only happens in the first anime. In the manga and the remake, he just [[Possession Implies Mastery|instinctively knows]] that he can do it, what with having seen the Truth and all. This fits in better with how he was able to bond Al's soul to a suit of armor immediately after losing his leg, when alchemists who had devoted years of research to it had far less luck with human transmutation.
* In ''[[Bleach]]'', Ichigo Kurosaki accidentally sets off his [[Took a Level In Badass|Getsuga Tenshou]] attack immediately following his achievement of Shikai. He doesn't learn how to fire it at will until he reaches [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|Bankai]].
* In ''[[Bleach]]'', Ichigo Kurosaki accidentally sets off his [[Took a Level in Badass|Getsuga Tenshou]] attack immediately following his achievement of Shikai. He doesn't learn how to fire it at will until he reaches [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|Bankai]].
** Heck, much plot with Ichigo concerns the fact he has great power, but no real clue how to control it. His sword is mocked explicitly for being a "Big ball of fluff".
** Heck, much plot with Ichigo concerns the fact he has great power, but no real clue how to control it. His sword is mocked explicitly for being a "Big ball of fluff".
*** It got even worse when Ichigo unlocked {{spoiler|his Fullbring}}. At least with a sword you know that the basic goal is to [[Buffy-Speak|stick the stabby end into the bad people]], but how the heck are you supposed to fight with {{spoiler|a giant glowing swastika}}?
*** It got even worse when Ichigo unlocked {{spoiler|his Fullbring}}. At least with a sword you know that the basic goal is to [[Buffy-Speak|stick the stabby end into the bad people]], but how the heck are you supposed to fight with {{spoiler|a giant glowing swastika}}?
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*** It could easily be argued that this trope is the basis for the X-Men as a whole, as the series has ''always'' revolved around a group of mutants who are ''being trained in the use of their own powers'' at what is quite literally a school that exists for precisely that purpose.
*** It could easily be argued that this trope is the basis for the X-Men as a whole, as the series has ''always'' revolved around a group of mutants who are ''being trained in the use of their own powers'' at what is quite literally a school that exists for precisely that purpose.
** Inverted with Rogue, who can use her powers quite well, but doesn't know how to turn them off (It's been pretty much spelled out that she ''could'' control them, except that [[The Woobie|some serious psychological trauma]] concerning both her power's first use and the effects of continued use were serving as a block.)
** Inverted with Rogue, who can use her powers quite well, but doesn't know how to turn them off (It's been pretty much spelled out that she ''could'' control them, except that [[The Woobie|some serious psychological trauma]] concerning both her power's first use and the effects of continued use were serving as a block.)
* The trope is very logically subverted in ''[[X-Factor]]'' when the team tracks down Alchemy, a mutant whose [[Puberty Superpower]] is the ability to transmute any matter into a simple element like gold. He was kidnapped by trolls and had to defend himself by transforming their leaders. He then couldn't change them back because he has to imagine the totality of the matter he is changing something into, and organic matter is so complex on a molecular level that he can't do it. So, he goes off for the advanced education in biochemistry needed to cure the beings he has affected.
* The trope is very logically subverted in ''[[X-Factor (comics)|X-Factor]]'' when the team tracks down Alchemy, a mutant whose [[Puberty Superpower]] is the ability to transmute any matter into a simple element like gold. He was kidnapped by trolls and had to defend himself by transforming their leaders. He then couldn't change them back because he has to imagine the totality of the matter he is changing something into, and organic matter is so complex on a molecular level that he can't do it. So, he goes off for the advanced education in biochemistry needed to cure the beings he has affected.
** By the time Alchemy reappeared in the pages of ''Excalibur'', he had gotten enough education and control over his power that he was able to restore the humans he had inadvertently transformed after the trolls had kidnapped him again to try and force him to change their leaders back to normal.
** By the time Alchemy reappeared in the pages of ''Excalibur'', he had gotten enough education and control over his power that he was able to restore the humans he had inadvertently transformed after the trolls had kidnapped him again to try and force him to change their leaders back to normal.
** Never explained was why Alchemy thought he could learn more about biochemistry in a university than with X-Factor, given that one of their members is the Marvel Universe's most brilliant biochemist.
** Never explained was why Alchemy thought he could learn more about biochemistry in a university than with X-Factor, given that one of their members is the Marvel Universe's most brilliant biochemist.
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== Fanfiction ==
== Fanfiction ==
* Michikyuu Kanae in ''[[Kyon: Big Damn Hero]]'' never had a chance to learn how to slide properly. {{spoiler|[[Fridge Horror|In hindsight, it's probably better she didn't work out how it works.]]}}
* Michikyuu Kanae in ''[[Kyon: Big Damn Hero]]'' never had a chance to learn how to slide properly. {{spoiler|[[Fridge Horror|In hindsight, it's probably better she didn't work out how it works.]]}}
* ''[[Harry Potter and The Methods of Rationality]]'': Harry spends several chapters conducting scientific experiments to figure out how Hogwarts works. In fact, he concocts a big series of experiments to have Hermione perform... {{spoiler|And then quickly has to scrap the lot once the first one shows his fundamental assumption was completely wrong.}}
* ''[[Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality]]'': Harry spends several chapters conducting scientific experiments to figure out how Hogwarts works. In fact, he concocts a big series of experiments to have Hermione perform... {{spoiler|And then quickly has to scrap the lot once the first one shows his fundamental assumption was completely wrong.}}
* When, in ''[[Shinji and Warhammer40K|Shinji and Warhammer 40 K]]'', Shinji develops ungodly powerful psychic abilties {{spoiler|to thwart Sahaquiel}} it not only completely destroys his ability to pilot Principio Eternus but makes him highly dangerous to everyone and everything. He then spends a chapter or (in a story where the chapters are long enough to be entire seperate stories themselves) being taught to limit them to a more manageable level by some monks. As proof that [[Tropes Are Tools]], this arc is often criticised for being a classic [[Wacky Wayside Tribe]].
* When, in ''[[Shinji and Warhammer40K|Shinji and Warhammer 40 K]]'', Shinji develops ungodly powerful psychic abilties {{spoiler|to thwart Sahaquiel}} it not only completely destroys his ability to pilot Principio Eternus but makes him highly dangerous to everyone and everything. He then spends a chapter or (in a story where the chapters are long enough to be entire seperate stories themselves) being taught to limit them to a more manageable level by some monks. As proof that [[Tropes Are Tools]], this arc is often criticised for being a classic [[Wacky Wayside Tribe]].
* In ''[[With Strings Attached]]'', all the four struggle with their magic when they first get it, especially Paul, and they undergo a continual learning process throughout the book.
* In ''[[With Strings Attached]]'', all the four struggle with their magic when they first get it, especially Paul, and they undergo a continual learning process throughout the book.
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* A similar thing happens to the title character in ''[[Sgt. Kabukiman N.Y.P.D.]]'': The first time his powers manifest, he accidentally cartwheels into a light pole; later, he tries to become Kabukiman, but [[It Makes Sense in Context|somehow turns into a clown]]; even later, he learns he can fly, but due to not being used to it, he throws up, and it lands on an asshole lawyer below him.
* A similar thing happens to the title character in ''[[Sgt. Kabukiman N.Y.P.D.]]'': The first time his powers manifest, he accidentally cartwheels into a light pole; later, he tries to become Kabukiman, but [[It Makes Sense in Context|somehow turns into a clown]]; even later, he learns he can fly, but due to not being used to it, he throws up, and it lands on an asshole lawyer below him.
* ''[[The Dark Knight Saga|Batman Begins]]'' shows Bruce Wayne experimenting with the technology that would eventually become part of his iconic identity, learning from his mistakes (bouncing off that fire escape ''had'' to hurt!) and upgrading accordingly.
* ''[[The Dark Knight Saga|Batman Begins]]'' shows Bruce Wayne experimenting with the technology that would eventually become part of his iconic identity, learning from his mistakes (bouncing off that fire escape ''had'' to hurt!) and upgrading accordingly.
* [[The Messiah|Luke]] [[Luke Nounverber|Skywalker]] spends much of the original ''[[Star Wars]]'' trilogy learning how to use his [[The Force|Jedi powers]], especially during his [[Training From Hell]] with [[Old Master|Yoda]].
* [[The Messiah|Luke]] [[Luke Nounverber|Skywalker]] spends much of the original ''[[Star Wars]]'' trilogy learning how to use his [[The Force|Jedi powers]], especially during his [[Training from Hell]] with [[Old Master|Yoda]].
* [[X-Men: First Class|X Men First Class]] shows more of this. Professor X hypothesises that Banshee's sonic scream should enable him to fly, so he encourages him to jump out of a second story window. Three guesses what happens.
* [[X-Men: First Class|X Men First Class]] shows more of this. Professor X hypothesises that Banshee's sonic scream should enable him to fly, so he encourages him to jump out of a second story window. Three guesses what happens.
* During his first flight as [[The Rocketeer (film)|The Rocketeer]], Cliff Secord accidentally turns the rocketpack off as [[Look Ma, No Plane|he's saluting passengers aboard a plane]].
* During his first flight as [[The Rocketeer (film)|The Rocketeer]], Cliff Secord accidentally turns the rocketpack off as [[Look Ma, No Plane|he's saluting passengers aboard a plane]].
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* In ''[[Breath of Fire III]]'', Ryu is born as a baby dragon, and his first few shapeshifts between human and dragon forms (which occur outside of actual combat) are [[Involuntary Shapeshifting|completely uncontrolled]]. Although the player gains the ability to transform at will during battle, it is not until [[Time Skip|later]], when he reaches adulthood, that he has full control over his transformations.
* In ''[[Breath of Fire III]]'', Ryu is born as a baby dragon, and his first few shapeshifts between human and dragon forms (which occur outside of actual combat) are [[Involuntary Shapeshifting|completely uncontrolled]]. Although the player gains the ability to transform at will during battle, it is not until [[Time Skip|later]], when he reaches adulthood, that he has full control over his transformations.
* Played with in [[Metroid|Super Metroid]] and Metroid Fusion. Samus always had the ability to walljump and shinespark, but learns to use it from the Zebes animals. When the SA-X appears, it is completely unable to do such techniques, and neither uses the rest of its abilities at their fullest potential.
* Played with in [[Metroid|Super Metroid]] and Metroid Fusion. Samus always had the ability to walljump and shinespark, but learns to use it from the Zebes animals. When the SA-X appears, it is completely unable to do such techniques, and neither uses the rest of its abilities at their fullest potential.
* Bang Shishigami from [[Blaz Blue]] was only told two things by Platinum; {{spoiler|that he had a Nox Nyctores, which are insanely powerful, and that its ability could very well save several people.}} She didn't bother telling him though ''what'' it was and not even how to activate it.
* Bang Shishigami from [[BlazBlue]] was only told two things by Platinum; {{spoiler|that he had a Nox Nyctores, which are insanely powerful, and that its ability could very well save several people.}} She didn't bother telling him though ''what'' it was and not even how to activate it.




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