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== Anime and Manga ==
* In ''[[Revolutionary Girl Utena]]'', {{spoiler|Akio}} and {{spoiler|Anthy}} feed {{spoiler|[[Disposable Fiance|Kanae]]}} an apple pin-cushioned by forks. It is strongly implied that {{spoiler|they're poisoning her}}, and the apple also obviously stands for {{spoiler|Anthy's swords of hate}}. One of the background music tracks, which plays during Akio and Anthy's {{spoiler|familial bonding}} is called "Fruit of Sin", as well. Make of that what you will.
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* At the end of the [[Fullmetal Alchemist (anime)|2003 anime version]] of ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', Riza is shown peeling apples and feeding them to the recovering Roy Mustang; in the end credits, they're in a marketplace where she is ostensibly buying more apples.
* ''[[Mawaru Penguindrum]]'', another [[Kunihiko Ikuhara]] work, features the apple motif heavily, although it has yet to play a huge part in the story except for the fact that Ringo's name essentially means "apple".
 
 
== Fan Works ==
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* ''[[Death and Ker]]'' is rife with apple symbolism, including allusions to Eris's apple of discord, [[Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs (novel)|Snow White]]'s poisoned apple, and the golden apples of immortality tended by the Hesperides. During one confrontation, Minako is even tempted with an apple.
* In [[DC Nation]], the apple of desire was passed around during the Olympics plot. Jesse Quick sees a world where her father's still alive. Donna Troy saw a world where she was reunited with her family, Titans and Terry Long. It is enough to shock Donna into realizing that she really wants to be with her living family and {{spoiler|give up her dead children to Persephone's care so she can return to the Titans}}.
 
 
== Film ==
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* François Truffaut's 1966 film of ''[[Fahrenheit 451]]'' featured a bowl of apples in the house which is confiscated and burned in the opening sequence. At the end of the film, the owner of that house is seen once again, munching an apple.
* Used in ''[[Pleasantville]]'', where the male lead is offered an apple by his girlfriend in a film all about a [[Trapped in TV Land|fictional town's]] loss of innocence.
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BY9cvgrP1c The whole point of The Apple!]
* Gurgi from ''[[The Black Cauldron]]'' loves his "Munchings And Crunchings".
* Titular character of ''[[Fantastic Mr. Fox]]'' is eating an apple shortly before getting trapped in a cage, along with his wife, which sets off the plot of the film. At the end, he eats a genetically modified apple that has stars on it.
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* In ''[[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]]'', [[Girl of the Week]] Willie Scott is [[Foreign Queasine|disgusted by the dinner]] served at the temple and refuses to eat, despite being obviously hungry. Retiring for the night, the [[Belligerent Sexual Tension]] between Willie and Indy is heightened by Indy appearing with a big juicy apple that Willie devours with lust.
* In ''[[Animal House]]'', Donald Sutherland's shady, [[Teacher-Student Romance|student-romancing]] English professor is shown lecturing on ''[[Paradise Lost]]'' from a [[Satan Is Good]] perspective, and then biting into an apple.
* Truly bizarre [[B-Movie]] ''[[The Apple]]'' hasruns on this, as the title makes clear, the biggest case when [[Louis Cypher|Mr. Boogalow's]] temptation of the female lead to stardom represented by an [[Special Effects Failure|oversized prop apple]].
* In the commentary for ''[[Eve's Bayou]]'', the director and writer points out that even she thought her use of Eve and the apple and Eve and the snake were a little [[Anvilicious|heavy handed.]]
* In ''[[Tron: Legacy]]'', Clu sees his reflection in a silver apple, recalls his creation by Flynn (who he has come to passionately hate), and loses his temper.
 
 
== Literature ==
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* In [[Tanith Lee]]'s ''[[The Dragon Hoard]]'', Jasleth gets a (short-lived) job in an apple orchard, hoping to find that one of the apple trees bears magic apples or is an enchanted princess. Much later, he encounters a grove of magic fruit trees that grow fruit made of gold; the varieties mentioned include oranges, plums, damsons and, inevitably, apples.
 
== [[Live -Action TelevisionTV]] ==
 
== [[Live Action Television]] ==
* In ''[[Angel]]'' this is invoked by Eve, who offers Angel an apple to represent the power Wolfram and Hart offers. He takes a bite out of it.
** Holtz also offers Wesley a slice of apple when Wesley comes to betray Angel.
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* ''[[Once Upon a Time (TV series)|Once Upon a Time]]'': Regina Mills (otherwise known as Snow White's evil stepmother) had a carefully cultivated and tended apple tree in her back yard. Emma takes a chainsaw to one of its branches when Regina goes over the line harassing her.
* ''[[Boardwalk Empire]]'': [[Al Capone]], first introduced in the pilot as a young, childish thug under the watch of Johnny Torrio, undergoes a maturation process during the first season that ends with a scene where he guns down a rival [[Mook]], takes an apple from the fallen and eats it. By the next season, he shows contempt at the idea of being anything but a gangster.
 
 
== Mythology and Religion ==
* [[Greek Mythology]]:
** This goes [[Older Than Feudalism|all the way back]] to the [[The Trojan Cycle|stories]] of the [[Greek Mythology|Ancient Greeks]]. The Apple of Discord was inscribed ''ΚΑΛΛΊΣΤῌ'' ("For the fairest") by Eris, Goddess of Strife, and thrown into the round of undeniably vain Olympians, eventually resulting in the [[Trojan War]]. Gods sure tend to overreact... Then there's also Hera's orchard of golden apples in the Garden of the Hesperides, the apple by means of which Akontios tricked Kydippe to marry him, and the golden apples Hippomenes used to win a race against Atalanta, earning the right to marry her. Don't get 'em mixed up.
* [[The Bible]]: The Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Contrary to popular conception, [[The Bible]] does not, in fact, name the original [[Forbidden Fruit]] an "apple." Some researchers believe than it was [[Lost in Translation]] back in Ancient Rome, since "malus/malum" can mean both "evil" and "apple" in Latin. So, technically, the Biblical apple is likely a [[Fanon]] coupled with absorbing Greek notions of the Apple Of Discord. And an [[Incredibly Lame Pun]]. An alternate explanation for the 'Latin mistranslation' is that "apple" in English used to be a generic name for all fruit, and it [[Have a Gay Old Time|changed its meaning]].
** Greek myth has all food in the underworld serve similar to Biblical [[Forbidden Fruit]], and of course only fruit become story-relevant. Eating it dooms you to never being able to leave; Hades tricks Persephone into becoming his wife this way. She ate between three and seven pomegranate seeds and has to spend that same number of months out of the year with Hades, the rest she spends above ground with her [[Overprotective Dad|Overprotective]] <s>dad</s> Mom—who ''[[Just-So Story|causes winter]]'' every year out of grief when her daughter's gone. (Note that not only does 'pome-granate' mean 'seeded apple', but considering [[Freud Was Right|other]] Greek myths, this is probably some kind of euphemism.)
** In fact, Judaism presents in the [[The Talmud|Talmud]] a rather large selection of possible contenders for the original fruit, stating that God deliberately did not identify it in the Bible so as not to cause a backlash against it (the fruit, after all, wasn't at fault here). The candidates include commonly known fruits in the Middle East (not apples), such as figs, dates, pomegranates, etrogs (a citrus fruit kind of like a giant, sweet lemon), and ''wheat.''
* [[The Bible]]: The Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Contrary to popular conception, [[The Bible]] does not, in fact, name the original [[Forbidden Fruit]] an "apple." Some researchers believe than it was [[Lost in Translation]] back in Ancient Rome, since "malus/malum" can mean both "evil" and "apple" in Latin. So, technically, the Biblical apple is likely a [[Fanon]] coupled with absorbing Greek notions of the Apple Of Discord. And an [[Incredibly Lame Pun]]. An alternate explanation for the 'Latin mistranslation' is that "apple" in English used to be a generic name for all fruit, and it [[Have a Gay Old Time|changed its meaning]].
** In fact, Judaism presents in the [[The Talmud|Talmud]] a rather large selection of possible contenders for the original fruit, stating that God deliberately did not identify it in the Bible so as not to cause a backlash against it (the fruit, after all, wasn't at fault here). The candidates include commonly known fruits in the Middle East (not apples), such as figs, dates, pomegranates, etrogs (a citrus fruit kind of like a giant, sweet lemon), and ''wheat.''
** Some say that given the climate of the supposed garden and the location scholars had given, the fruit was probably a pomegranate, making it even cooler because then it's ripped right from Persephone's tale.
*** This would have some added symbolism, including the legend that the pomegranate has 613 seeds, the same as the number of laws in the Torah.
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** In Islam, the forbidden fruit is traditionally wheat. This has interesting implications, placing the Fall of Mankind with the agricultural revolution. [[Jean Jacques Rousseau|Rousseau]] [[Rousseau Was Right|would be pleased]], as he had much the same opinion.
** Some have also proposed the passionfruit. On the one hand, it just ''sounds'' so much more tempting than a plain old apple. On the other, it makes a clever call forward to Jesus, who had to basically [[Set Right What Once Went Wrong]] in the garden.
* Idunn's golden apples in [[Norse Mythology]] granted one immortality.perpetual Foryouth - for a while, anyway. If the gods don't continue munching those apples, they get old. This aspect was explored in a tale involving Loki and the frost giant Thiazi.
* Greek myth has all food in the underworld serve similar to Biblical [[Forbidden Fruit]], and of course only fruit become story-relevant. Eating it dooms you to never being able to leave; Hades tricks Persephone into becoming his wife this way. She ate between three and seven pomegranate seeds and has to spend that same number of months out of the year with Hades, the rest she spends above ground with her [[Overprotective Dad|Overprotective]] <s>dad</s> Mom—who ''[[Just-So Story|causes winter]]'' every year out of grief when her daughter's gone. (Note that not only does 'pome-granate' mean 'seeded apple', but considering [[Freud Was Right|other]] Greek myths, this is probably some kind of euphemism.)
* Chinese myth, in ''[[Journey to the West]]'', features ''peaches'' of immortality, but they take several centuries to ripen.
* The poisoned apples in "[[Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs (novel)|Snow White]]".
* The legend of a great archer forced by a king to demonstrate his archery skill by shooting an apple balanced on his own son's head. He readies two arrows, but successfully hits the apple with the first one. When the king asks about the second arrow, the archer explains that if the first arrow had gone into his son, the second arrow would have gone into the king. (The most familiar version of this story is the Swiss legend of [[William Tell]], in which incidentally the [[Feudal Overlord]] involved isn't a king, but similar legends exist in many European countries.)
* In [[Irish Mythology|Irish legend]], the Sons of Tuirenn are to [[Fetch Quest|to get three golden apples]] from the well-guarded Garden in the East of the World. One bite of these fruits can cure any wound or sickness.
* In the Armenian folktale "[[The Liar Folktale]]", a king offered to give a golden apple to the biggest liar in the kingdom. Eventually a peasant wins the apple by using by stating that the king owed him a pot of gold. [[Xanatos Gambit|If the king denied it, then the peasant would win the lying contest. If the king didn't, well, he'd have to give the peasant the pot of gold.]] So the king parted with the golden apple instead.
* Another Armenian folktale example: [[The Stinger]] of just about every Armenian folktale usually comes with some variant of the phrase "Three apples fell from heaven; one for the storyteller, one for the listener, and one for whoever pays good attention."
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* In ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'', Leman Russ is looking for apples from the Tree of Life to get the Emperor back on his feet. He's been looking for ten damn millenia.
* In ''[[Changeling: The Lost]]'' goblin fruits are usually worth finding, if a bit horrifying to consume.
 
 
== Theatre ==
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* ''[[Shin Megami Tensei I]]'': To pass Cerberus to get to Tokyo Destiny Land, you need a golden apple. {{spoiler|If you fused Pascal with a demon to make Cerberus, it will be a reunion. Regardless if you fused pascal or not; Cerberus will join your party}}
* ''[[Minecraft]]'' sports both regular and golden apples; the latter will heal you fully and grant regeneration for half a minute.
 
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
* In ''[[Sinfest]]'', [https://web.archive.org/web/20140209174604/http://sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4023 Lil Evil naturally goes for the apples in Paradise because they are forbidden.]
** ''Sinfest'', by its nature, invokes [https://web.archive.org/web/20140209191342/http://sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4020 this trope] pretty often.
* In ''[[Question Duck]]'', [https://web.archive.org/web/20150522012147/http://questionduck.smackjeeves.com/comics/1009463/065/ the duck naturally asks a question having nothing to do with the orchard or apples.]
* In ''[[Erstwhile]]'', [https://web.archive.org/web/20130902080618/http://www.erstwhiletales.com/fcd-08/#.T2-C6dm6SuI the king stops for an apple.]
* In ''[[No Rest for The Wicked (webcomic)|No Rest for The Wicked]]'', [http://www.forthewicked.net/archive/01-01.html September can't have them], a [[Snow White]] [[Shout-Out]].
 
 
== Western Animation ==
* In ''[[The Grim Adventures of Billy and& Mandy]]'', Eris is a character, and instead of being something gods fight over, the apple of discord is an object with vaguely defined magical abilities to create chaos. It has a huge "K" on it (it's short for "Kallisti" or "for the fairest," she didn't misspell "chaos," though that might have been the joke).
** Also, when Nergal Junior poses as Mrs. Butterbean to get revenge on Sperg for bullying him, he eventually stuffs all the apples Sperg used to bribe the teacher into his mouth, while saying "How you like them apples" and breaking out into a wicked [[Slasher Smile]].
*** It ''does'' get fought over, for those very powers, when [[Schmuck Bait|'entrusted']] to the three leads in one episode.
 
 
== Real Life ==
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