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== Subjective Tropes ==

* [[Acceptable Targets]]: Hobos, nerds and obsessive fans.

'''Freddie:''' You ''should''.

'''Sam:''' I will. }}

** Nevel, the little freak that's alway's trying to shut down iCarly. Granted, all his attempts are made so that he can steal a kiss from Carly, but you have to wonder about his odd mannerisms. Maybe it's a front.

* [[Ass Pull]]: Sam's [[Love Epiphany]] in ''iOMG'' is the result of an [[Ass Pull]] because of the desire to create and avoid spoiling a [[Shocking Swerve]] dramatic season end scene. In ''iOMG'' Sam liking Freddie just happens. There's no foreshadowing or explanation about ''why'' Sam likes Freddie ''and'' they have a [[Red Herring]] in the form of Brad. An indication Sam likes Freddie would kill the swerve and the dramatic ending so the writers [[Ass Pull]] the eventual explanation later. The characters on the show itself make reference to how sudden and strange it is, as they mention that Sam's behaviour started when Brad showed back up which was only for that episode and don't mention the eventual [[Love Epiphany]] moment at all.

** T-Bo has taken up this mantle, being involved in the show much more.

** Gibby's brother, Guppy seems to have his own fanbase too.

* [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]]: The show seems to worship the social hierarchy of High School. Any depictions of unpopularity make it seem like they deserve it (they're crazy, overwhelmingly weird or villains). Not the best concept to reinforce on middle schoolers.

** Sam is usually the source of this trope, for example: "Lying is not that bad. Soon you will be able to lie and feel nothing at all."

** [[Miranda Cosgrove]] has a huge following in Brazil of all places.

* [[Growing the Beard]]: Season 2: [[Character Development|Freddie's a much rounder and mature character]], [[If It Was Funny the First Time|old jokes fall into disuse]], the plots are better... Season 1 was OK, but season 2 is where the series really got good.

* [[Hype Backlash]]: Deservedly so due to Nickelodeon's terribly incorrect promotion of ''iSaved Your Life''. Fans expected the solution and end of the [[Shipping Wars]]. They got an [[Author Filibuster]] decrying them for [[Shipping]].

* [[Idiot Plot]]: In ''iGive Away A Car'' they believe a random kid who shows up on their doorstep, and claims to be the son of a local car dealership who wants to give them a car to give away as a prize on their webshow for answering a riddle. They ''never'' thought to actually call or see the guy's father to check out the car that was supposedly on offer until ''after'' Nevel wins the contest after he set the whole thing up.

* [[Moff's Law]]: [[Dan Schneider]], the [[Word of God]] and his constant claim to focus on the comedy rather than the romantic vibes of the show amidst the heavy [[Ship Tease]] post-season 2 onwards. Done in-universe as well through an [[Author Filibuster]] in ''iStart A Fan War''.

* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Nora and her family gleefully holding Spencer hostage to keep the iCarly gang imprisoned, torturing him if they do anything they don't like. What ''really'' pushes this over is Nora's suggesting that she can and will kill him if they make a wrong move.

* [[Narm Charm]]: Carly's delivery of [[Big No]] from ''iBeat the Heat'' and ''Kelly Cooper'' is so over-the-top it's hilarious.

** The latter was probably the point, considering the title was ''Kelly Cooper: Terrible Movie''. Doesn't make it any less hilarious.

** Spencer, in ''iGot A Hot Room'' when he realises that his birthday present to Carly caused a fire, destroying her room & all of her belongings. The look on Jerry Trainor's face in that scene is enough to make you forget that he's the show's resident [[Cloudcuckoolander]]. And for that matter, Carly too.

** Woody from ''iPear Store''. He makes only $2 for every case he sells, and is deathly afraid of his girlfriend dumping him and dating his brother Bob due to him not making enough money. When we see him we find out he hasn't sold a single case that day. Just when it looks like Gibby is about to buy a case from him, [[Yank the Dog's Chain|Gibby realizes he forgot to bring money]], [[Despair Event Horizon|causing Woody to have a nervous breakdown in front of many customers]]. Makes you want to give the poor guy a hug.

 

== Fandom-related or audience reaction tropes ==

** Max Ehric and [[Jennette McCurdy]] have in the past created [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOO_3uF1SIY videos together] and spent time together giving rise to people who ship them together. This has lead to some [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]] between people who bring up that relationship and those who ship Jathan.

** James Maslow of [[Big Time Rush]] and [[Miranda Cosgrove]] have some supporters. This might be one of the more realistic pairings, since James and Miranda have brought up or had each other brought up in interviews. James once opined that their careers would prevent them from giving each other the attention a relationship deserves.

** Also when [[Jack Black]] was confirmed to guest-star as Spencer's video game arch-nemesis. One may wonder if he will throw a reference to [[School of Rock]] with Carly.

** Sheldon Cooper a.k.a Jim Parsons from [[The Big Bang Theory]] will be guest staring as Caleb, a psychiatric patient who thinks that he hails from the future.

** Teen Choice Awards 2010: [[Sonny With a Chance]] and [[Wizards of Waverly Place]] were nominated for the Best Comedy show but not [[iCarly]]. [[The Jonas Brothers]], again win the Best Actor Comedy award despite being 3 people, whilst Jerry Trainor wasn't even nominated.

** Kids' Choice Awards 2008: Despite being run by Nickeldeon, [[Miranda Cosgrove]] and Jenette Mccurdy were not nominated for Favorite Television Actress. It took till 2009 before the show itself won the Best TV Comedy award, but [[Miranda Cosgrove]] lost to Selena Gomez for Best Actress every year since Wizards premiered.

* [[Base Breaker]]: Sam Puckett, much moreso than Megan, her [[Creator's Pet]]-ish counterpart from ''[[Drake and Josh]]'', who was almost unanimously hated by the fanbase. Reactions on the character range all the way from "never watching the show again", to "best character ever".

** The Sam/Freddie and Carly/Freddie divide eventually shattered the base completely. Even more so than in most series that involve opposing canon couples, there is almost no interaction between the 2 sides and what little there is either a free for all shipping war on [[Tumblr]], or heavily regulated on the [[The Wiki Rule|iCarly Wiki]].

** The Sam/Freddie arc at the start of Season 5 is causing even the Sam/Freddie base to break in parts. Some love it and think it's the best the show has ever done, others are giving up on it, seeing it as [[Shipping Bed Death]] and being critical of how Sam and Freddie's relationship is being portrayed.

* [[Beta Couple]]: Outside the main character and their [[Ship Mates]] in fanfic, Jalerie (Jonah/Valerie) is such a couple.

* [[Creator Worship]]: Oh so averted.

* [[Crack Pairing]]: Nevel/Grandpa Shay, Principal Franklin/Wendy.

* [[Crossover Ship]]: [[Drake and Josh|Drake]]/Spencer. [[Drake and Josh|Megan]]/Nevel. Sam/[[Wizards of Waverly Place|Alex Russo]]. Freddie/[[Victorious|Cat]].

* [[Designated Protagonist Syndrome]]: Carly ''and'' [[Miranda Cosgrove]] suffer from this, mostly by virtue of Carly usually playing the [[Straight Man|straight woman]] to Sam and Spencer, with Sam and Freddie being part of the [[Vocal Minority|Seddie]] ship, and Gibby the [[Breakout Character]], it appears in most of the major fan forums that she is the least popular character. Carly gets accused by [[Fan Dumb|fan haters]] of being boring, a 'waste of space', and 'the worst thing about the show'. Miranda gets accused of being a less talented actress, a less talented [[Idol Singer|singer]] and called 'ugly', compared to Jenette Mc Curdy who plays Sam.

* [[Dear Negative Reader]]: [[Word of God|Danwarp]] pulled this on a couple of over the top negative Seddie fans who trashed his annoucement of the extended version of ''iSaved Your Life'', writing back long reponses about their negative posts, and then finally telling people who weren't excited to go do something that would excite them, or watch the new episode of [[Wizards of Waverly Place]] instead.

** The [[Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things]] entry about Dan moving to his own personal blog is essentially a Dear Negative Fandom Community, as he lost patience with the prevalent [[LiveJournal]] community he was involved with after they bashed him for ruining the vibe of the community.

** Before the ''iSaved Your Life'' incident, he once said that certain fans could 'throw a parade' because Carly told Freddie to move over a step. He's also made a few extremely sarcastic remarks to the effect of 'I never get tired of people telling me how I should write my show :)' in response to fans who prefer Seddie saying they don't like Creddie.

*** Everyone went nuts on that one. [[Sarcasm Mode|Who would've thought a script leaked before the first episode of a new season, that seemed to indicate the main male character was no longer in love with the main female character would cause issues?]] Seddie fans went nuts because they all thought Freddie was now in love with Sam, Creddie fans went nuts because it looked like a [[Ship Sinking]], fans on both sides were dismayed at how an apparently critical event would get spoiled like that after Dan had spent so long avoiding pre-air spoilers, and other parts of the fandom finally got fed up with his interactions, teasing and generally being a negative influence on the community.

*** Funnily enough, that piece of dialogue never showed up in any season 3 episode, nor any of the early season 4 episodes, and neither has the 'promise' Freddie gives to Carly that she refers to either. So far, all that drama came about for nothing.

* [[Die for Our Ship]]:

** Carly: Seen by some Seddie fans as a spoiled [[Mary Sue]] who kissed Sam's first kiss.

** In-universe example in the episode ''iStart A Fan War'' — When Carly points out the guy she currently has a crush on, the in-universe Carly/Freddie shippers scream that he's the one who "stole Carly from Freddie!" and attack him.

** Freddie with both Carly and Sam if you ship [[Take a Third Option|Cam. Or don't ship.]]

* [[Loony Fan]]: Certain shippers on both sides. Creddie and Seddie both have a small vocal group that will make both groups as a whole look bad. The Seddie Warriors are a large sub-group of the overall Seddie fandom whilst Creddie being smaller has no 'named' faction like the Seddie Warriors but does contain some people who are just as strongly for their ship as the Warriors are. On the whole, the biggest supporters on either side don't look too good. There is also the ''[[Mc Curdians]]'' who are another subset of Seddie fandom that has popped up around Season 4 and 5.

* [[Love It or Hate It]]: Similar to [[Victorious|April Fools Blank]], "iApril Fools" has been incredibly divisive-it's either an absolutely insane and hilarious episode or a piece of crap, with very little middle ground.

* [[Misaimed Fandom]]: [[Word of God]] occasionally implies that all the [[Shipping]] nonsense detracts from what the shows core is about, that being the comedy/jokes, and the friendship of the [[Power Trio]].

** Seddie fans have had a long-term like for the Carly/Gibby pairing. It stemmed from clinging to a ship that could work on the show itself that also gets Carly away from Freddie. The other 'go-to' pairings are Carly/Griffin, and Carly/Shelby for the [[Les Yay]] option.

** Some Seddie fans ship Spencer/Marissa (Freddie's Mom), as another way to kill off Creddie in a story or on the show itself.

* [[Shipping]]

** The most popular ships are:

*** Creddiam [[OT3|(Carly/Freddie/Sam).]]

*** Cam (Carly/Sam), [[Les Yay]] and [[Romantic Two-Girl Friendship]].

*** Fencer (Spencer/Freddie), [[Ho Yay]].

*** Minor ships include Spocko (Spencer/[[The Unseen|Socko]]), Speddiam (Spencer/Freddie/Sam), Spasha (Sasha/Spencer), Frendy/Sandy/Candy (Wendy with Freddie, Sam or Carly), Jalerie (Jonah/Valerie), Cibby/Sibby/Fribby (Gibby with Carly, Sam or Freddie), Sparly ([[Brother-Sister Incest|Spencer/Carly]]), Sharly (Shelby/Carly), Fiffin/Criffin/Siffin (Griffin with Freddie, Carly or Sam), Felanie (Freddie with [[Acting for Two|Mel]][[Always Identical Twins|anie]]).

** Seddie fans are quite prone to this. They regularly screen-cap a single freeze frame of Sam looking at Freddie, call it "eye-sex" and proclaim it canon evidence that they really love each other. The ending of ''iSpeed Date'' with Carly & Freddie slow dancing is only about Sam. Not Freddie or Carly, who are props used to show Sam's deep angst about her love for Freddie. The freeze frame tendency was mildly parodied (ironically by using an in-universe Creddie shipper) in ''iStart A Fanwar''.

** It got to the point that the whole "Seddie color is purple" thing eventually became [[Ascended Fanon]] with the colour being all over the restaurant set for Sam and Freddie's first on-screen date.

*** The aftermath of ''iOMG'' could go through phases of Type 6 (Carly and Sam's friendship overrides feelings for Freddie), Type 9 (Any pairing is put on hold because of the feelings of the other girl), or Type 10 (Freddie and Sam get together but Freddie still has feelings for Carly).

* [[Vocal Minority]]: The ratings of the major ship-centric episodes have Creddie rating millions and millions more viewers than the Seddie episodes. Despite this, Seddie fans are a lot more aggressive about their [[OTP]] than Creddie or Cam or Spam fans, even though those combined ships are probably larger than Seddie, and thus are a Vocal Minority. Just check the comments on Schneider's blog for how vocal they can be.

* [[What the Hell, Hero?|What The Hell, Sam?]]: She clearly has no respect for the First Lady, who praised her along with Freddie for what they did for Carly, interrupting her mid-phrase about wanting a sandwich.

* [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]]: It has its own [[Ho Yay]] ''[[ICarly/Ho Yay|page]]''.

* [[Win Back the Crowd]]: ''iOMG'', which turned out to be the something Dan promised the shippers after the iSaFW tragedy.

 

== Fanfic tropes ==

** [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5205009/109/iGo_To_The_Hospital iGo To Hospital] the longest [[Gen Fic]] had 107 chapters updated in the space of roughly a year, then the next took ages, the one after even longer, it's been dead since July 2010.

** [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5889328/1/iDiscover_I_Have_Superpowers iDiscover I Have Superpowers], one of the most unique stories ever written for the fandom, updated 13 chapters in about 6 months, then stopped right at a heartbreaking moment of angst between two of the main characters. Has not been updated since the start of 2011.

** [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5075276/1/iNever_Knew_This_Would_Be_So_Hard iNever Knew This Would Be So Hard], a Creddie story which was a continuation of one of the first ever recommended, took a year to publish it's 4 existing chapters, and has now passed 1 year since being updated in July 2010.

** [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5727758/35/The_Pact The Pact] a Creddie story, updated 35 chapters in 10 months. The last update was on New Year's Eve 2010.

** ''iOMG'': Adding a post-script which solves the cliff-hanger. Freddie gently letting down Sam then going after Carly or having Carly come after him, the same but with Carly going after Sam, or just having Freddie respond to Sam positively.

* [[Good Girls Avoid Abortion]]: Considering the huge amount of Sam gets pregnant stories, finding a story where Sam ''does'' have an abortion is damn near impossible if not actually impossible.

* [[Hypothetical Casting]]: [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6906423/1/iCarlys_Father The iCarly's Father] series of related stories has the hypothetical casting of [[Stargate Atlantis|Joe Flanigan]] as the adult Steven Shay, and [[Ariana Grande]] with her natural brunette hair colour as Taylor Dorfman in flashbacks set during her and Steven Shay's romance during high school. The hypothetical resemblance between Taylor and Cat Valentine (Ariana's redhaired character on [[Victorious]]) is brought up when Steven meets Cat for the first time. This is not by any means the only story to use hypothetical casting either.

* [[Intimate Psychotherapy]]: Issues involving character deaths, being dumped by the other part of the trio, being abandoned by their parents, any of these can be solved in the arms of their love interest.

* [[The Jailbait Wait]]: Spencer/Sam.

* [[Kid Fic]]: There are a handful of people who write nothing but this.

* [[Log Fic]]: Most often done with some kind of 'gossip blog' run by Wendy, with the characters posting messages on the site. Wendy will write an article claiming xyz have happened, and the characters come in so that [[Hilarity Ensues]].

* [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls]]: An offhand count of the major writers in the fandom would show a huge majority are female. Carly/Sam and Sam/Freddie are hugely female dominated due to being [[Les Yay]] and [[Slap Slap Kiss]] pairings, with Seddie having a major focus on Sam, the [[Book Dumb]] 'strong female' character, whilst [[Just Friends|Carly/Freddie]] has a fair amount of male writers, as it's a far more gender-balanced pairing that many guys can relate to.

* [[WAFF]]: The Carly/Freddie pairing generally averts [[Darker and Edgier]] and is often very fluffy. The prevalent way to write sexual activity has Freddie as an [[Above the Influence]], chivalric [[Celibate Hero]] pining romantically after Carly, whilst Carly dates and is dumped by bad boys who try to pressure her for sex before she realizes it's respect she needs, not just a ''smoking hot bf''. A [[Their First Time]] ending is very much optional and sometimes doesn't happen till college or when they get married.