I Thought It Was Forbidden: Difference between revisions

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Bad guys are often exempt from type 2 because, well, they're bad guys. Why should a [[Card-Carrying Villain]] or [[Complete Monster]] care about ethics?

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== Type 1 ==

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* ''[[Dragonball Z]]'' - the Kaio Ken (literally "World King Fist") technique briefly amplifies every aspect of the user's being - from physical strength to ''sense of taste''. Goku is warned that his body may not be able to handle such a surge of power. While he does feel pretty bad the first few times he uses it, later on he suffers no such effects. By the time he fights Frieza he can stack the technique up to 20x its normal power and doesn't need to even [[Calling Your Attacks|call it]] anymore. King Kai has to explain to other characters observing the battle that no, he's not holding back he's been using it the whole time.

* Initially averted in ''[[Slayers]]''. Lina's improvised ultimate spell, the Giga Slave, is at least noted as a way to deal with every big bad. However, because of its side effects, great effort is put into not using it because {{spoiler|while the spell can destroy anything, it may very well destroy EVERYTHING.}} It ends up being used only thrice, once before it's full ramifications are known (And really [[Endofthe World As We Know It|wouldn't be much worse than not using it]] had they known) with a number of additional measures backing it up, and once {{spoiler|after an entire season's plot is devoted to driving Lina to cast it by the Monsters, who actively wish to see creation unmade}}, Lina botching it only to be saved by a literal [[Deus Ex Machina]] she ''may'' have had an inkling of in advance. However, {{spoiler|she casts it once again at the end of ''Slayers Evolution-R'', pulling it off flawlessly with zero assistance.}}

* Projection in ''[[Fate/stay night]]'' for Shirou; he keeps doing it and it says that it burns out his nerves and magic circuits and whatnot and yet it never permanently injures or kills ~~him -- Shirou~~ himself postulates in "Unlimited Blade Works" that for all its Forbiddenness, the strain of doing it will never be enough to permanently harm him. {{spoiler|Averted in Heaven's Feel, when Shirou has to depend on his [[Deadly Upgrade]] for Projection instead of doing it himself; the strain gives him brain damage and eventually destroys his body}}.

* Projection in ''[[Fate/stay night]]'' for Shirou; he keeps doing it and it says that it burns out his nerves and magic circuits and whatnot and yet it never permanently injures or kills him—Shirou himself postulates in "Unlimited Blade Works" that for all its Forbiddenness, the strain of doing it will never be enough to permanently harm him. {{spoiler|Averted in Heaven's Feel, when Shirou has to depend on his [[Deadly Upgrade]] for Projection instead of doing it himself; the strain gives him brain damage and eventually destroys his body}}.

* In ''[[One Piece]]'', the main character Luffy has a technique called Gear Second that makes his blood pump faster, increasing his speed and power. In the first arc this appeared in, it was stated that using the technique wore him out, while also decreasing his lifespan. But by the Impel Down and Marineford arc, he's constantly using the technique, even when he doesn't really need to, with seemingly no side effects at all.

** During the Skypeia arc, one of the characters Wiper had a special weapon that could put out a lot of force, but which also backfired on the user. The weapon could potentially kill a user with one use. Throughout the saga, Wiper uses it ''three'' times, and though it injures him, it never takes him long to get back on his feet.

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== [[Literature]] ==

* In Robert Jordan's ''[[Wheel of Time]]'' series there exists a nasty spell called Balefire, which basically erases its target from existence. ''Retroactively'', with [[Ripple-Effect-Proof Memory]]. The more force you put into the spell, the farther back in time it goes. The heavy strain this spell put on the very fabric of existence was enough to get both ~~sides--light~~ ''and'' ~~dark--to~~ silently agree to stop using it long ago. For all its dangers it can also be extremely useful. Several characters are saved (or revived) from death when their attacker is hit by this, it ignores defenses, and it's a guaranteed way to {{spoiler|prevent the Forsaken from reincarnating}}. In small doses there aren't any apparent ill effects. It's only with massive blasts that the world seems to momentarily sway to the characters nearby.

* In Robert Jordan's ''[[Wheel of Time]]'' series there exists a nasty spell called Balefire, which basically erases its target from existence. ''Retroactively'', with [[Ripple-Effect-Proof Memory]]. The more force you put into the spell, the farther back in time it goes. The heavy strain this spell put on the very fabric of existence was enough to get both sides—light ''and'' dark—to silently agree to stop using it long ago. For all its dangers it can also be extremely useful. Several characters are saved (or revived) from death when their attacker is hit by this, it ignores defenses, and it's a guaranteed way to {{spoiler|prevent the Forsaken from reincarnating}}. In small doses there aren't any apparent ill effects. It's only with massive blasts that the world seems to momentarily sway to the characters nearby.

* Max Impeller compensator rate in the ''[[Honor Harrington]]'' series is treated like this. [[Word of God]] is that it's a historical artifact from a previous era when going to the maximum rate really wasn't that safe and risked catastrophic failure of the compensator, which at 500G would turn you to paste. Of course we've never seen a ship have random failure in the entire series even at max rate as modern designs don't need nearly the same margin for safety.

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{{quote|'''Peter:''' 'Scuse me Egon, you said crossing the streams was ''bad''...}}

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== Type 2 ==

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