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* ''[[Godzilla]]''. So much so that the absence of this trope is one of the (many) reasons the American Remake is considered [[Canon Dis Continuity]].
* ''[[Godzilla]]''. So much so that the absence of this trope is one of the (many) reasons the American Remake is considered [[Canon Dis Continuity]].
* Subverted in ''[[Independence Day]]'', after dropping a nuke [[Nuke'Em|on the invader ship]] which has taken over the city of Houston (and basically nuking anything of the city that is left), the Secretary of Defense thinks that using another nuke on another American city might still work even though the first one failed utterly. The President overrules him, e.g. it was worth trying once, but obviously if it didn't do anything the first time, subsequent attempts would be pointless.
* Subverted in ''[[Independence Day]]'', after dropping a nuke [[Nuke'Em|on the invader ship]] which has taken over the city of Houston (and basically nuking anything of the city that is left), the Secretary of Defense thinks that using another nuke on another American city might still work even though the first one failed utterly. The President overrules him, e.g. it was worth trying once, but obviously if it didn't do anything the first time, subsequent attempts would be pointless.
* In the film ''[[Evolution (Film)|Evolution]]'', The army tries this against alien life forms that evolve at an alarming rate. Their General, shortly after being told fire makes them evolve faster, tells the main characters to shut up and makes things go to Hell.
* In the film ''[[Evolution (film)|Evolution]]'', The army tries this against alien life forms that evolve at an alarming rate. Their General, shortly after being told fire makes them evolve faster, tells the main characters to shut up and makes things go to Hell.
** Tell someone that a weapon will make the threat of the week stronger and that's the first thing they'll try to kill it with.
** Tell someone that a weapon will make the threat of the week stronger and that's the first thing they'll try to kill it with.
** The general never finds out about the fire thing before detonating the napalm. They try to call him, but he refuses to pick up the phone.
** The general never finds out about the fire thing before detonating the napalm. They try to call him, but he refuses to pick up the phone.
* In ''[[Transformers (Film)|Transformers]]: Revenge Of The Fallen'', it seems that the super secret human/Autobot task force has one tactic: send the humans in, let them get slaughtered, then hope that delays the Decepticons long enough for the Autobots to kill them.
* In ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]: Revenge Of The Fallen'', it seems that the super secret human/Autobot task force has one tactic: send the humans in, let them get slaughtered, then hope that delays the Decepticons long enough for the Autobots to kill them.
** The sequel shows NEST developing pretty effective tactics that allow humans to take out Decepticons ''with assault rifles'' (presumably, with armor-piercing ammo) without Autobot assistance. Sniper rifles also prove surprisingly effective at taking out their [[Go for The Eye|eyes]].
** The sequel shows NEST developing pretty effective tactics that allow humans to take out Decepticons ''with assault rifles'' (presumably, with armor-piercing ammo) without Autobot assistance. Sniper rifles also prove surprisingly effective at taking out their [[Go for the Eye|eyes]].


== [[Literature]] ==
== [[Literature]] ==
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** Basically the aliens want to turn all life on Earth and everywhere else into [[Organic Technology]] slaves. Most races are pacifists and kill themselves rather than be used. Humans being [[Humanity Is Superior|awesome]] [[Humans Are Bastards|bastards]] decide to do as much damage to the aliens as possible and exterminate all life on Earth in the process out of spite.
** Basically the aliens want to turn all life on Earth and everywhere else into [[Organic Technology]] slaves. Most races are pacifists and kill themselves rather than be used. Humans being [[Humanity Is Superior|awesome]] [[Humans Are Bastards|bastards]] decide to do as much damage to the aliens as possible and exterminate all life on Earth in the process out of spite.
** The British [[General Ripper]] Expy gives this [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] speech, "They are going to learn that we won't roll over and die like the [[Actual Pacifist|Echo's]]. We are going to fight. And even if we lose we'll make damn sure that they don't win." I was never so [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|proud to be a human.]]
** The British [[General Ripper]] Expy gives this [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] speech, "They are going to learn that we won't roll over and die like the [[Actual Pacifist|Echo's]]. We are going to fight. And even if we lose we'll make damn sure that they don't win." I was never so [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|proud to be a human.]]
* The WWI [[Black Adder]] [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Blackadder#Plan_A:_Captain_Cook described] the Allies' [[Zany Scheme|secret plan]] as "climbing out of our trenches and walking very slowly towards the enemy" with the drawback being that "everyone always gets slaughtered in the first ten seconds." The depressing thing is that these were the Allied tactics in Real Life.
* The WWI [[Blackadder]] [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Blackadder#Plan_A:_Captain_Cook described] the Allies' [[Zany Scheme|secret plan]] as "climbing out of our trenches and walking very slowly towards the enemy" with the drawback being that "everyone always gets slaughtered in the first ten seconds." The depressing thing is that these were the Allied tactics in Real Life.
** The reality is a awful lot more complicated than that. While there were some terrible blunders early in the war, and when the Americans first arrived, both sides were constantly innovating and trying new things to break the stalemate, such as climbing out of the trenches and walking very slowly towards the enemy, ''behind one of your tanks''.
** The reality is a awful lot more complicated than that. While there were some terrible blunders early in the war, and when the Americans first arrived, both sides were constantly innovating and trying new things to break the stalemate, such as climbing out of the trenches and walking very slowly towards the enemy, ''behind one of your tanks''.
* [[Babylon Five|The Earth-Minbari War]], the final battle of which is the [[Last Stand]] variant, and was fought to ensure the escape and survival of the human race. [[Tear Jerker|Heart-wrenchingly]] narrated by Londo.
* [[Babylon 5|The Earth-Minbari War]], the final battle of which is the [[Last Stand]] variant, and was fought to ensure the escape and survival of the human race. [[Tear Jerker|Heart-wrenchingly]] narrated by Londo.


== Music ==
== Music ==
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* The ''[[Jak and Daxter]]'' series's titular [[One-Man Army]], Jak, is constantly laying the smackdown on hordes of Krimzon Guards, Metal Heads, and pretty much anything that moves in a vaguely threatening way. And no matter what, they just keep coming.
* The ''[[Jak and Daxter]]'' series's titular [[One-Man Army]], Jak, is constantly laying the smackdown on hordes of Krimzon Guards, Metal Heads, and pretty much anything that moves in a vaguely threatening way. And no matter what, they just keep coming.
* Averted slightly in ''[[Universe At War]].'' While humanity is never shown as being capable of bringing down a Hierarchy walker by themselves, human tanks, fighters, and trained infantry are shown to be perfectly capable of killing Hierarchy ground troops, albeit with heavy casualties. When Earth finally manages to launch a nuke against a Hierachy ship, it's implied that it does decent damage, and a high-ranking Hierarchy commander considers it a humbling lesson.
* Averted slightly in ''[[Universe At War]].'' While humanity is never shown as being capable of bringing down a Hierarchy walker by themselves, human tanks, fighters, and trained infantry are shown to be perfectly capable of killing Hierarchy ground troops, albeit with heavy casualties. When Earth finally manages to launch a nuke against a Hierachy ship, it's implied that it does decent damage, and a high-ranking Hierarchy commander considers it a humbling lesson.
* Given that [[Prototype (Video Game)|Alex Mercer]] doesn't have much difficulty with destroying helicopters or hijacking them for a joyride (and then probably using them to blow up some more military property), it's a wonder that the military keeps sending them after him. Same thing for [[That One Boss|the Supreme Hunter]] {{spoiler|the first time at least, they're kinda useless the second}} and [[Marathon Boss|Elizabeth Greene]] in a way: Mercer does a better job at avoiding her attacks and actually damaging her in one, but if the military didn't keep sending tanks and helicopters in, the player couldn't yoink them and shoot rockets at the boss with some degree of protection.
* Given that [[Prototype (video game)|Alex Mercer]] doesn't have much difficulty with destroying helicopters or hijacking them for a joyride (and then probably using them to blow up some more military property), it's a wonder that the military keeps sending them after him. Same thing for [[That One Boss|the Supreme Hunter]] {{spoiler|the first time at least, they're kinda useless the second}} and [[Marathon Boss|Elizabeth Greene]] in a way: Mercer does a better job at avoiding her attacks and actually damaging her in one, but if the military didn't keep sending tanks and helicopters in, the player couldn't yoink them and shoot rockets at the boss with some degree of protection.
** In the early game, at least, when you've got barely enough health to trash a few tanks, the military is a mild annoyance. Maybe they're hoping to be a critical annoyance at exactly the right time? Those [[Goddamn Bats|strike teams]] do a good job of it, at least...
** In the early game, at least, when you've got barely enough health to trash a few tanks, the military is a mild annoyance. Maybe they're hoping to be a critical annoyance at exactly the right time? Those [[Goddamn Bats|strike teams]] do a good job of it, at least...
** Helicopters, tanks, rocket launchers, and grenade launchers are at least vaguely dangerous, in the sense that they could hypothetically kill Alex. A better example would be the guys shooting regular bullets.
** Helicopters, tanks, rocket launchers, and grenade launchers are at least vaguely dangerous, in the sense that they could hypothetically kill Alex. A better example would be the guys shooting regular bullets.
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