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Sometimes, the title of a work overshadows the main character. It's hard to [[Gannon Banned|fault someone]] for assuming ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]'' stars a green elf named Zelda for both this reason and the fact that the game features no elves at all.<ref>if you want to nitpick, they have pointy elf ears but otherwise human bodies and personalities</ref>. The title of a work can be heard so much that the character names become footnotes in comparison. This is [[I Am Not Shazam]].
 
But what happens when the ''opposite'' occurs? What about when you've got an iconic character, the subject of a million parodies, whom anyone can caricature at a moment's notice, but no one can remember the name of the work they're in? You've got this trope. '''Iconic Character, Forgotten Title''' covers those character names that overshadow the title of their story.
 
Often, this will be lost in foreign language translations which use the character's name as the title instead of translating the original one.
 
Compare [[CowboyMedia BebopResearch at His ComputerFailure]]. Contrast [[Spotlight-Stealing Title]]. See also [[Mainstream Obscurity]].
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== Anime and Manga ==
 
* In ''[[Lucky Star]]'', Kagami is looking for a "''LeLouch''" manga for Konata. "What the heck is a ''[[Code Geass]]''?"
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* [[The Treachery of Images]] by René Magritte is sometimes called "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" or "This is not a pipe".
* ''[[:File:Whistlers Mother high res.jpg|Arrangement in Grey and Black No.1]]''. Or as it's almost universally known, ''Whistler's Mother''.
 
== Comic Books ==
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* The word Hellblazer just gets smaller and smaller, while the words [[John Constantine]] get larger and larger. Ironic, because the original title was chosen specifically because they didn't think anyone would know who Constantine was (despite his appearances in the [[Swamp Thing]]).
* ''Journey Into Mystery'' is another example of a book that was originally supposed to be an anthology but eventually became dominated by stories about its [[Breakout Character|most popular character]] before finally just being renamed for him. In this case, it became ''[[The Mighty Thor]].''
* [[Popeye]] originally debuted as a bit player in Thimble Theatre, with Olive Oyl already well-established. Pretty soon after, Popeye became the main star, with Olive Oyl becoming his love interest over her original love, the [[Blondie (comic strip)|Dagwood-like]] Harold Hamgravy.
* The [[Milestone Celebration|100th issue]] of ''Tales Of Suspense'' saw the series renamed ''[[Captain America (comics)|Captain America]]'', after the superhero who co-starred (alongside [[Iron Man]]) since issue #59.
* Similarly, ''Tales to Astonish'' became ''[[Incredible Hulk|The Incredible Hulk]]'' with #102, after the character who'd been co-starring since issue #59.
 
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* [[Older Than Radio]]: The Armenian folktale ''The Daredevils of Sassoun'' is commonly just called ''David of Sassoun'' after the main character, despite the real title sounding much cooler.
* Even the Wikipedia page starts with "''[[Robinson Crusoe]]'' is a novel by Daniel Defoe..." The actual title was:
{{quote|''[[Long Title|The Life and Strange Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe, of York, Mariner: Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un‐inhabited Island on the Coast of America, near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver’d by Pyrates.]]''}}{{context|reason=How is this an example of the trope as written?}}
* ''[[Gulliver's Travels|Gullivers Travels]]''. While his name is still in the title, it's not just "Gulliver's Travels". The full title was: "Travels Into Several Remote Nations of the World in Four Parts by Lemuel Gulliver, First a Surgeon, and then Captain of Several Ships."{{context|reason=How is this an example of the trope as written?}}
 
== Live Action TV ==
* Late night talk shows are often known by the name of the current host. For instance, for many years ''[[The Tonight Show]]'' was referred to more often as "Johnny Carson." People are more likely to say, "John Smith is on ''Letterman'' tonight" than "John Smith is on ''[[Late Show]]'' tonight."
** Well, the full title of ''Late Show'' is "''Late Show with David Letterman''", so you could argue that calling it "''Letterman''" shortens it to a word which is legitimately part of the title.
** ''[[Conan]]'' may be a parody of this. That's [[One Word Title|the show's full name]]. Conan even joked that he named it that so that [[Take That|nobody could replace him on the show]].
* The show is called ''[[Return of Ultraman]]'', not ''Ultraman Jack'' after its titular hero. Most people call it by its titular hero though.
* What show did the character Sergeant Bilko appear in? No, not ''Sergeant Bilko'' (except [[Syndication Title|in syndication]] and [[The Film of the Series|the film version]]) but ''[[The Phil Silvers Show]]'' or ''You'll Never Get Rich''.
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* ''[[Family Matters]]'' was often misnamed "The Urkel Show" because Steve Urkel, originally a minor character, became an very successful [[Breakout Character]].
* This trope is almost certainly why Game Show Network named its revival of ''[[Press Your Luck]]'' (AKA "Whammy" or "The Whammy Show"), "Whammy: The All-New Press Your Luck".
* [[Cold Open|Cold Opening]]ing into the [[Show Within a Show]] led many people to refer to ''[[Home Improvement (TV series)|Home Improvement]]'' as ''Tool Time''.
* ''[[Keeping Up Appearances]]'' is universally referred to as "Mrs. Hyacinth" in Denmark (even though it does have an offical translated name, and that, when you think about it, "Mrs. Hyacinth" is a case of ''[[I Am Not Shazam]]'')
* A lot of people seem to think that ''[[Secret Diary of a Call Girl]]'' is titled "Belle du Jour", which in actual fact is the pseudonym of its main character, played by Billie Piper. The confusion might also be because the blog the show was based on was called "Belle du Jour."<ref>"Belle du Jour" is [[Gratuitous French|French]] for "girl of the day."</ref>
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* Both ''[[Bloom County]]'' and ''Outland'' were known for Opus, so the third comic strip with him became just ''Opus''.
* The comic strip ''Thimble Theater'' is hardly known today, but one of its characters, [[Popeye]] is quite well known, probably because he later got an animated series.
* There are many who think the comic strip ''[[Blondie (comic strip)|Blondie]]'' is called ''Dagwood'', since he's become the main character rather than Blondie.
 
 
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* ''[[Metalocalypse]]'' is commonly referred as "Dethklok", after the cartoon band in which the show is centered around. The [[Working Title]] was actually ''Dethklok Metalocalypse'' before they decided to shorten it to just ''Metalocalypse'', but since many people are not sure on how to pronounce "Metalocalypse" correctly, they simply refer to the show as "Dethklok" as well.
* The ''[[Dynomutt Dog Wonder]]'' show is more commonly referred as "Blue Falcon & Dynomutt" or simply "Blue Falcon".
* A number of people mistake the name of ''[[Jem]]'' as ''Jem and the Holograms'' because that's the actual name of the band she performs with in the show. Even [https://web.archive.org/web/20110902035004/http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thedudette/nostalgia-chick/31375-jem-and-the-holograms The Nostalgia Chick] did this when reviewing the show.
* Some people who haven't seen ''[[Ka BlamKaBlam!]]'' in a while refer to it at times as "The Henry and June Show" (Which was actually a proposed (and failed) spin-off)
 
 
== Real Life ==
* The actor Sylvester McCoy (born Percy Kent-Smith) got his stage name this way. Some of his earlier work was as a sidekick/warm-up man to the stand-up comedian-cum-performance artist [[Ken Campbell]], as a fictional character called "Sylveste McCoy". To further the joke, his character was credited in the playbill as "Sylveste McCoy as Sylveste McCoy". One reviewer didn't get the joke and used it in the review as if it was his real name, so he said [[Sure Why Not]] and used it as his stage name from then on (though adding an "r" to the end - no, those weren't typos earlier).
* The Nehi Corporation used to make a line of popular fruit-flavored sodas (the one most commonly known today is the Grape Nehi, Radar's favorite soda in ''[[MASHM*A*S*H (television)|M*A*S*H]]''). In 1955, as the soda market changed to favor colas over everything else, they changed their name to their new star brand, Royal Crown (although they kept the name for their fruit-flavored products; you can still find and purchase Nehi soda to this day).
 
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