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== Played Straight ==
=== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ===
* ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'' has Negi doing something along these lines to the demon that [[Taken for Granite|petrified]] [[Doomed Hometown|his hometown]]. Negi knows a spell for killing demons, but decides not to use it. Of course, said demon [[Noble Demon|wasn't entirely evil anyway]].
** The general theme of "I won...? Wait, that means you must have ''let'' me win!" is used continually throughout the series; this is at least the second time it's applied to a supposed life-or-death struggle.
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* In ''[[Parasyte]]'' Ch. 6, a parasyte reassures Shinji (who is naturally freaking out) that an invitation to meet for coffee is benign by citing this trope.
 
=== [[Comic Books]] ===
 
=== Comic Books ===
* In ''[[Atomic Robo]]'', Egypt's armed forces tell this to Robo and his Action Science Team after shooting at him because he blew up a pyramid. [[It Makes Sense in Context]], mostly.
* The Kingpin to the ''[[Runaways (comics)|Runaways]]'': "If there was going to be violence at this table, it would be over and you would be dead."
 
 
=== Films -- Live-Action[[Film]] ===
* ''[[The Godfather]]'' has Virgil Solozzo telling Tom to: "Come on get in the car. What are you worried about? If I wanted to kill you, you'd be dead already."
* In ''[[Dirty Harry]]'', Harry shoots Scorpio in the leg.
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'''Harry Callahan''': ''If I tried that your head would be splattered all over this field.'' }}
* A nice subversion in the 2008 ''[[Get Smart (film)|Get Smart]]'' movie:
{{quote|'''[[Big Bad|Siegfried]]''': How do I know you're not CONTROL?<br />
'''Maxwell Smart''': If I were CONTROL, you'd already be dead.<br />
'''Siegfried''': If you were CONTROL, ''you'd'' already be dead.<br />
'''Maxwell Smart''': Neither of us is dead, so I'm obviously not from CONTROL.<br />
''beat''<br />
'''[[Mook|Shtarker]]''': That actually makes sense. }}
** Bonus points for also subverting the inversion.
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* The ''[[Jumanji]]'' film gives us, "Stop your cringing, woman; I could have shot you at any moment."
* Used to a point on ''[[The Princess Bride (film)|The Princess Bride]]'', where Fezzik misses the Man in Black's head with his rock on purpose, so they can fight it out sportsman-like.
* In the Russian film "''[[D'Artagnan and threeThree musketeers"Musketeers]]'' the titular hero accuses [[The Vamp|Milady de Winter]] of shooting him when he was riding a horse. She responds with scorn, that "If I'd been shooting you, you'd have been dead. I was shooting your horse!"
* ''[[The Shadow (film)|The Shadow]]'' (1994):
{{quote|'''SHIWAN:''' Kill you? * chuckles* If I wanted you dead, Ying Ko [referring to Lamont], I would have your liver on a pole right now.}}
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* Marcus makes this point to try to convince John Connor that he isn't hostile in ''[[Terminator]] Salvation''.
* Not actually stated, but the spirit is certainly there in [[Predators]]. After the Russian has nearly mowed him down with his [[BFG]], Royce flanks him, and puts his gun to the Russian's head.
{{quote|'''Royce:''' Please stop doing that. We're not your enemy.
'''Russian:''' How do I know that?
'''Royce:''' Because otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.
'''Russian:''' (Accepts this and joins the party) }}
 
=== [[Literature]] ===
 
* In [[Dan Abnett]]'s ''[[Gaunt's Ghosts]]'' novel ''His Last Command'', when Gaunt [[Hostage Situation|takes Commissiar Kanow hostage]], he points out that he could have killed and didn't. ([[Hanging Judge|Kanow]] is unpersuadable. Gaunt has his men overpowered and gets Ludd, the junior commissiar, to make the contacts he needs to prove his identity.)
=== Literature ===
* In [[Dan Abnett]]'s [[Gaunt's Ghosts]] novel ''His Last Command'', when Gaunt [[Hostage Situation|takes Commissiar Kanow hostage]], he points out that he could have killed and didn't. ([[Hanging Judge|Kanow]] is unpersuadable. Gaunt has his men overpowered and gets Ludd, the junior commissiar, to make the contacts he needs to prove his identity.)
{{quote|''Look, sergeant. I had the stone drop on you just then, and yet no one's dead so far. Is that the act of a heretic or a deserter?''}}
* ''Flood'' by [[Andrew Vachss]]. It's stated that martial arts [[Badass]] Max [[The Speechless|the Silent]] is so notorious no-one even laughed when a judge told him he had the right to remain silent during an attempted murder trial. After all, everyone knew Max never ''attempted'' to murder someone.
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{{quote|"If I wanted you dead captain, I'd have put a bullet in your head. There is an $18.6 million dollar bounty on your head. Rest assured I am being paid considerably more than that to keep you alive."}}
* In the book version of ''[[The Hunt for Red October]]'', the Soviet fleet goes on "blockade" duty off the U.S. Atlantic coast for the rogue missile sub, making the Americans distinctly nervous. Being the height of the [[Cold War]], the U.S. decides to make a few demonstrations to the Sovs of what would happen if the Red Banner Fleet were ever to move aggressively. The most spectacular of them involved four A-10s racing under the radar horizon of the fleet and boxing the battlecruiser ''Kirov'' with flares. The exact message that the pilots wanted to send was, word for word, "If we had been serious, you'd be dead by now".
* In ''[[The Bible]]'', David twice gets close enough to Saul to kill him, but stays his hand, believing that he should not lay a hostile hand on "the Lord's anointed". The first time, he cuts off a part of Saul's robe, while the second time, he steals Saul's water jug and spear. The message, although not explicitly said, is clear. It's an old trope, ladies and gentlemen! And Saul doesn't get the message. [[Too Dumb to Live]] much?
* A variant not involving death occurs in [[David Drake]]'s ''Northworld'' trilogy. Main character Hansen comes to visit [[Gadgeteer Genius]] Ritter, who's working on a project for him. Ritter isn't getting very far on the project, and he snappishly says something about Hansen checking up on him. Hansen, who's been given [[Physical God|godlike powers]], thinks, ''If I wanted to check on you--'' and demonstrates that his powers would let him spy on Ritter completely undetected.
* Another variant appears in [[Isaac Asimov]]'s novelization of ''[[Fantastic Voyage]]''. The mission experiences several misadventures, each of which could have been accident or sabotage. All but one of the specialists are eliminated as suspects because something went wrong in their respective areas of expertise that they could have sabotaged far more subtly and effectively.
* ''[[The Dresden Files]]'': Not death, quite, but Harry and Murphy are talking and it comes out that Harry witnessed a murder without telling the police.
{{quote|'''Harry''': This again. [[Continuity Nod|I remember how this goes.]] You slug me in the jaw and arrest me.<br />
'''Murphy''': I damn well should.<br />
'''Harry''': Hell's bells, Murph!<br />
'''Murphy''': Relax. [sigh] If that was what I had in mind, you'd be in the car already. }}
* Not exactly "dead,", but there's an exchange in ''[[Animorphs]]'' #10, right after Erek discovers Marco, unmorphed and fairly helpless, hidden in the grass in a field crawling with Controllers.
{{quote|'''Erek:''' Stay here. I'm going to lead them away. Then come and meet me at this address. I want to talk to your leader.
'''Marco:''' How do I know that this isn't a trap?
'''Erek:''' Why would I do that?
'''Marco:''' Maybe you want to catch all of us at once.
'''Erek:''' Marco, you seem like a brave guy. But if I wanted to know who and where your friends were, I'd give you to Visser Three right now. You would talk. }}
* ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events|The Reptile Room]]'':
{{quote|'''Stephano/{{spoiler|Olaf}}''': If I wanted to harm you, orphan, [[Nightmare Fuel|your blood would already be pouring down these stairs like a waterfall.]]}}
* David Isaak's ''Shock and Awe'':
{{quote|'''Rex Atwater''': My point is that Western civilization is cutting its own throat. Our enemies hit us as hard as they can, but we're supposed to strike back in a limited, perfectly accurate, fair way... and always apologize. Do you remember during the invasion of Iraq, when all of the Arab press was crying out ''they're deliberately targeting civilians''? And the White House responds with patient denials, instead of saying, ''Christ, if we were deliberately targeting civilians, [[Kill'Em All|do you think there'd be anybody left to bitch?]]''}}
* In one of the ''[[Posleen War]]'' novels, Cally O'Neal actually uses this as a legal defense ''in court''. The man she shot claimed she tried to kill him. She claimed that he tried to rape her and she shot him in self-defense. She resolves the argument by taking the jury to a firing range and conclusively proving that if she could have easily killed the man at the range he was shot if she'd wanted to. The man is arrested for attempted rape and posters are put up around town with her picture and the message: WARNING! [[Jail Bait]]. To be considered Armed and Dangerous.
* In ''[[Daemon|Freedom]]'' Loki/Gragg tells Dr. Philips this.
* From the ''[[Honor Harrington]]'' novel ''Echoes of Honor'':
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{{quote|'''Cole:''' "If Pike were going to kill him, you'd never find the body. He'd dispose of Dirsch and leave you wondering what happened. Pike is the most dangerous man I know and I've known more than a few."}}
* In the Roy Johansen novel ''Beyond Belief'', Joe Bailey confronts murderer {{spoiler|Stuart Dunning}} and accuses him of the murder of Robert Nelson, which he committed in a manner that made it appear telekinetic in nature. {{spoiler|Dunning}} declares "If I had telekninetic powers, we wouldn't be having this conversation." Subverted in that he does indeed want to kill Bailey, but is using this to deny the original murder.
* In the ''[[Ciaphas Cain]]'' novel ''Duty Calls'', the [[Big Bad]] [[No, Mr. Bond, I Expect You to Dine|invites Cain to a meal]] and tells him not to worry about poison; if he was to be killed, it would have been done already with gunfire.
* Used second-hand in ''[[The Truth]]''. To make a long story short, an altercation ends up with Vetinari's assistant, Drumknot, receiving several knife wounds, which certain parties pin on Vetinari. William DeWorde smells a rat, not because he doesn't believe that Vetinari would stab someone, but because DeWorde doesn't believe that Vetinari would stab someone without killing them.
* In the ''[[Dale Brown]]'' novel ''Shadows of Steel'', a back channel special envoy between the Iranians and the US is told that the President is still in control of the situation, for if he wasn't, overt military action would have been taken already.
 
=== [[Live-Action TV]] ===
 
* ''[[Law and& Order: Special Victims Unit]]'': When accused of ordering a hit on the now comatose man who was sleeping with his wife, the richest guy in the world not only tells Detectives Munch and Fin that he doesn't care, but, "If I wanted Victor Ko dead, he'd be in his grave by now."
=== Live-Action TV ===
* ''[[Law and Order Special Victims Unit]]'': When accused of ordering a hit on the now comatose man who was sleeping with his wife, the richest guy in the world not only tells Detectives Munch and Fin that he doesn't care, but, "If I wanted Victor Ko dead, he'd be in his grave by now."
* ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'': In "The Vengeance Factor", a much smaller and technologically inferior ship repeatedly and ineffectually attacks the ''Enterprise''. Picard finally orders a limited attack to take down their shields and convince them to start talking. The other captain's first signal is an accusation that the ''Enterprise'' is there to destroy them; Picard makes the obvious rebuttal.
** Similarly, in ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine|Deep Space Nine]]'', Garak is told to be more serious when he lists Kira as a suspect in blowing up his shop.
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** Obligatory ''[[Angel]]'' example: In one episode, this is how Angel convinces Wesley that he's not Angelus.
* The first season of ''[[Andromeda]]'' features a variant: Hunt is trying to recruit a politician, and he's later found dead while locked in a room with Tyr—the weapon is found to be keyed to Tyr's DNA. He claims that he couldn't have killed the politician, because if he had, he knows enough ways to do it that no one would be able to tell.
* In an episode of the 70's70s show ''Search'', the leader of a criminal group replied to the suggestion that they'd committed (and botched) certain murders by having a guard place two or three pistol shots within a few centimeters of his leader's head. It demonstrated not only the skills of his men -- '''they''' wouldn't have botched the killings—but his degree of trust in their loyalty. He didn't flinch '''at all''' as the shots were fired.
* ''[[The Sarah Connor Chronicles|]]'': Cameron to John:]]
{{quote|If I was going to kill you we wouldn't be having this conversation. }}
* In ''[[The Mentalist]]'' episode "Redline", a very rich guy, when asked if he killed the victim of the week, makes the point that with his resources, if he'd been responsible for her death, they wouldn't have found the body; she'd have just disappeared.
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* Said almost word for word by Kurt in [[The River]]. Played with in that Kurt is not really a villian and even {{spoiler|helps save Lincoln in the end.}}
 
=== [[Oral Tradition|Oral Tradition, Folklore, Myths and Legends]] ===
* In ''[[The Bible]]'', David twice gets close enough to Saul to kill him, but stays his hand, believing that he should not lay a hostile hand on "the Lord's anointed". The first time, he cuts off a part of Saul's robe, while the second time, he steals Saul's water jug and spear. The message, although not explicitly said, is clear. It's an old trope, ladies and gentlemen! And Saul doesn't get the message. [[Too Dumb to Live]] much?
 
=== [[Video Games]] ===
* ''[[Thief]]|Thief: Deadly Shadows]]'' has this bit of convoexvhange:
{{quote|Garrett: "I suppose if you were Gamall, you would have tried to kill me just now."
Artemis: "[[Badass Boast|No, I would have succeeded.]]" }}
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* ''[[Deus Ex]]'':
{{quote|'''JC Denton''': If I'm gonna kill you, [[You Are Already Dead|you're already dead.]]}}
* In ''[[The Godfather (video game)|The Godfather]] 2]]'', the Mangano consigliore threatens you with this.
 
=== [[Web OriginalsComics]] ===
 
=== Webcomics ===
* Humorous invocation in [https://web.archive.org/web/20101216053515/http://crispygamer.com/comics/backward/backward-2009-04-08.aspx this] ''Backward Compatible'' webcomic, as two reviewers try for the same assignment.
* ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'' had a more benevolent variation in [http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2004-11-24 this] strip. Later, a [http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2014-11-16 reversal]. And [http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2015-10-03 in a rather foggy friend-or-foe situation] (which doesn't quite work as intended).
 
=== [[Western Animation]] ===
* ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]'': After Bumblebee, at Brother Blood's orders, battles Cyborg, she tries to convince Cyborg she's [[The Mole]]: "If I was fighting for real, you'd be spare parts by now."
* The animated series based on Disney's ''[[Hercules (1997 film)||Hercules]]'' has Medusa delivering a variation of this line to Hercules.
{{quote|'''Medusa:''' If I wanted you stone, you'd be stone, all right?}}
* ''[[Batman Beyond]]'': An assassin assures Batman a stray shot to get his attention was just that, for this reason.
* ''[[Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog]]'': Tails is kidnapped in one episode where Robotnik had nothing to do with it. Robotnik said that, if he had kidnapped Tails, he'd be torturing him.
* A variation occurs in ''[[Rick and Morty]]'', in the episode "Air Force Wrong". When Rick accuses Unity of wanting to assimilate the Earth into her collective [[Hive Mind]], she tells him that had she wanted to, she would have done so. She certainly proves it in the second half of the episode, where she ''does'' assilimate most of the United States in about an hour's time in order to fight a more malevolent Hive Mind.
 
=== [[Real Life]] ===
 
=== Real Life ===
* [[Charles Manson]]. "Believe me, if I started murdering people, there'd be none of you left."
* Porter Rockwell, the Mormon gunfighter dubbed "the Prophet's bodyguard" was accused of shooting at Lilburn Boggs, governor of Missouri who issued the famous "Extermination Order". His response? "I never shot ''at'' anything in my life. I either shot it or I didn't shoot."
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Man: Like this. *takes out a gun and puts it to his head and pulls the trigger* }}
** The gun wasn't loaded, but it sent a clear message that they could have killed him at anytime and weren't hesitating to kill.
 
 
== Inversions ==
=== Comic[[Anime]] Booksand [[Manga]] ===
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=== [[Comic Books]] ===
* Near the end of the first volume of ''[[Runaways (comics)|Runaways]]'', the team realise that one of them is a mole for the Pride but have no idea who. When Nico comes up, Alex points out that she's one of their most powerful members and could have hurt them ages ago if she wanted to.
 
=== Films -- Live-Action[[Film]] ===
* Captain Von Trapp says something similar to Rolfe in ''[[The Sound of Music]]'' when Rolfe threatens to shoot him, but in this case he's doing it to convince Rolfe that Rolfe doesn't have it in him to kill someone and should just hand over the gun.
* Anthony Perkins uses this line of reasoning in ''[[The Black Hole]]''. It actually holds true... for a while.
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* Said of the "Snake King" in ''Courageous''. "If he wanted you dead, he'd have killed you by now."
 
=== [[Literature]] ===
 
=== Literature ===
* Dumbledore in ''[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (novel)|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]'': "If you were going to kill me, you would have done it when you first Disarmed me, you would not have stopped for this pleasant chat about ways and means."
** Dumbledore accuses Malfoy of being half-hearted in his assassination attempts.
** In ''Deathly Hallows'', when Harry and Hermione are at the graveyard in Godric's Hollow, they hear something rustling in the bushes, but after a moment of waiting and listening Harry points out that if it was a Death Eater they'd be dead by now.
* In the Swedish spy-novel "''Coq Rouge''" the hero proves that he isn't an assassin out to assassinate the palestinianPalestinian big-shot by disarming his body-guards, grabbing a machine-gun, pointing it at the big-shot... and turning over the weapon. Subverted when the big-shot then calmly points out that he knew this was going to happen and that the weapons weren't loaded.
* In ''[[Animorphs]]'', Marco is first to point out that he believes that {{spoiler|Visser One}} isn't setting a trap because, if she wanted to capture him, it'd be far simpler to do so directly than setting a trap.
** When the team investigates Yeerks tampering with food, one of them suggests that they want to poison people. Ax disagrees, since if the Yeerks wanted to kill a lot of humans, they would use Dracon beams to set the atmosphere on fire.
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* Rose in ''[[Slave Trade]]'' by Susan Wright: "I guess that means no one's awake or they would have killed us already."
 
=== [[Live-Action TV]] ===
 
=== Live-Action TV ===
* ''[[Angel]]'' episode "Peace Out":
{{quote|'''Wesley''': If you really believed that, you'd have killed us already.}}
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* Season four of ''[[Supernatural]]'': Shortly after Dean is pulled out of Hell, a demon threatens to send him back. Dean coolly replies, "No, you won't. Because if you could, you'd have done it already."
 
=== [[Tabletop Games]] ===
 
* In the prologue story to one edition of ''[[Mage: The Ascension]]'', the mage Mercedes finds out that her lover Gericault is one of the Nephandi (an [[Eldritch Abomination]] -worshiping cult of mages). Mercedes attacks him and knocks him to the ground, where they have the following exchange:
=== Tabletop Games ===
* In the prologue story to one edition of ''[[Mage: The Ascension]]'', the mage Mercedes finds out that her lover Gericault is one of the Nephandi (an [[Eldritch Abomination]] worshiping cult of mages). Mercedes attacks him and knocks him to the ground, where they have the following exchange:
{{quote|'''Gericault''': Let me up.
'''Mercedes''': I'm going to kill you.
'''Gericault''': You are a practical woman, Mercy, and [[You Watch Too Much X|this is not a dime novel.]] If you were going to kill me, you would have done so five seconds ago. Let me up. }}
 
=== [[Web Original]] ===
 
=== Web Originals ===
* ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071221083737/http://www.spinachchin.com/short/aleppo/virus_2.html The Highway Virus Series: DNA Oil]''
{{quote|''"They would have killed us already, if they were going to," the female said, although her voice wavered''}}
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20130505060219/http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/04/first-contact-alien.png This] advice for what to do when making first contact with aliens makes the point that, since there is almost no chance that two random species would just happen to be at similar levels of technology, and they are the ones with interstellar flight, if the alien hasn't killed you already it probably isn't hostile.
 
=== [[Video Games]] ===
 
=== Video Games ===
* In ''[[Fallout 3]]'', the Player can have a random encounter with "[[Shout-Out|Mel]]", a highwayman who tries to stick you up with a sawed-off shotgun. The Intelligence-tied response basically calls him out on it, stating that a real raider would have just killed and looted.
 
=== [[Western Animation]] ===
 
=== Western Animation ===
* In ''[[Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker]]'' there is a flashback to the final battle between the [[Batman: The Animated Series|original Batman and Joker]]. Batman, [[Moral Event Horizon|enraged by Joker's latest crime]], threatens to break him in two, but the Joker flippantly responds that he would have done that years ago if he "had the guts for ''that'' kind of fun." Then he shanks Batman in the leg.
** [[Continuity Nod]]: That leg never DOES''does'' get better...
* Done by the ''hero'' in ''[[Justice League Unlimited]]'' during the climax of the [[Myth Arc|Justice League/Cadmus conflict that drove the first two seasons]]. Cadmus, [[Cape Busters|a shadowy government organization dedicated to combating the League if they ever turn against the government]], has its former headquarters destroyed by orbital bombardment from [[Kill Sat|the League's space station]] mere hours after a dramatic rescue where Superman and the Huntress saved the Question during torturous interrogation. However, the headquarters had been abandoned immediately after the conflict and all the orbital attack did was destroy what is now an abandoned warehouse. Batman points out to Amanda Waller, the head of Cadmus, that the League has had the organization under surveillance for months, of ''course'' they saw them dismantle and move the offices. When Waller then claims that it was a warning shot Batman, by now getting fed up with the conversations tells her "[[Crowning Moment of Funny|Don't be dense.]]" If the League had wanted to attack Cadmus they ''would'' have attacked Cadmus, and they never did; [[Lex Luthor]] had hacked their satellite and fired the weapon himself.
** Superman, on the other hand, was tempted to attack Cadmus.
 
=== [[Real Life]] ===
 
=== Real Life ===
* This is also one of the [[Memetic Badass|Chuck Norris facts]].