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* One notable flamewar centers on Sony's removal of the Other OS function in the [[PlayStation 3]], meaning you can't use Linux on your [[PlayStation 3]] anymore.

* [[PSP]] vs. PSPgo. And by extension, physical game media versus digital download.

* Implying that you prefer the ''[[Sega Saturn]]'' over the ''[[~~Play Station~~]]'' or ''[[Nintendo 64]]'' can be a death sentence. Even stating that the Saturn was good, even in Japan, can cause problems. Don't even try to mention the the "[[Dreamcast]] 2" myths, or if you want a Dreamcast.

* Implying that you prefer the ''[[Sega Saturn]]'' over the ''[[PlayStation]]'' or ''[[Nintendo 64]]'' can be a death sentence. Even stating that the Saturn was good, even in Japan, can cause problems. Don't even try to mention the the "[[Dreamcast]] 2" myths, or if you want a Dreamcast.

* Whether or not [[Microsoft]] should make a handheld is quite the issue within the gaming community.

* After the [[Hype Backlash|commercial failure]] of the [[Nintendo 3DS]], Nintendo dropped the price of the system to a paltry $170 in the US, literally ''5 months'' after its release. People who bought it prior to the price drop, despite Nintendo trying to compensate with a collection of 20 games (most of them classics like ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' and ''[[~~Yoshis~~ Island]]''), were not pleased.

* After the [[Hype Backlash|commercial failure]] of the [[Nintendo 3DS]], Nintendo dropped the price of the system to a paltry $170 in the US, literally ''5 months'' after its release. People who bought it prior to the price drop, despite Nintendo trying to compensate with a collection of 20 games (most of them classics like ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' and ''[[Yoshi's Island]]''), were not pleased.

* [[DLC]] as a whole will lead to two [[Broken Base]] arguing with each other, with one half despising DLC, and the other half praising them. The fact is that DLC can have a lot of different meanings, DLC can be of ''very'' different types, and the absence of clear legislation about it doesn't really help, leaving the editors to do as they please when they propose DLC:

** On the side of those who hate DLC, we have understable complaints, since some DLC are content removed from the game in order to sell it under the disguise of DLC (such as some missions of ''[[Assassin's Creed II]]''), content already on the disk but that you need to unlock with a DLC in order to use it (such as the costumes of ''[[Street Fighter IV]]''), content which could be seen as vital (or at least very useful) but that you need to buy as DLC in order to use it (such as the chest in which you can store your equipment in [[Dragon Age Origins]]), or even some content which we can reasonably think should have been available in the game right from the start instead of being sold separately as DLC (such as the costumes and arena fights of [[Final Fantasy XIII-2]], DLC available since the release of the game). Some DLC are not new content, but just a way to [[Bribing Your Way to Victory|bribe your way to victory]] (such as some DLC in [[Tales of Vesperia]], which allow the player to gain levels, money, artes, items... It's not so much "downloadable content" here, and more like "paying cheat codes"). And let's not start about the activation codes of [[Batman: Arkham City]], preventing you from accessing a part of the game if you buy a second hand copy of the game instead of a new one, which will make you unable to enjoy it... Unless you buy the DLC which allows access to these parts of the game. Overall, this side sees DLC as a cash machine for the editors, and fear that they are considered as cash cows.

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* Anything that has to do with console exclusivity. Probably the worst offender is when a DLC is released for [[PlayStation 3]] instead of Xbox 360, or vice versa.

** And for that matter, the only super-platforms of video games that exists are PCs, consoles, and handhelds. Do NOT acknoledge the existence of arcade games made after ''[[Street Fighter]] II''.

* One of the biggest ways to kick up a fuss is to ask whether a hot console exclusive or console-exclusive bonus content will be ported to another system. Most fanboys of the system that exclusive belongs to will immediately lambast you with flames. The more rational amongst them will give you plenty of reasons why such a port [[Like You Would Really Do It|will never happen]], [[Not So Stoic|usually peppered with flames]]. You'll also probably be told that you're cheap and that you need to buy the original system, and/or will be told to go have your mommy buy it for you. This typically happens when [[PlayStation 3]] or 360 owners ask about things being ported to the other system, though it sometimes happens with situations like PSP games potentially being ported to the [[~~Play Station~~ 2]]. (The Wii and DS are often left out of this loop, due to fundamental hardware differences. Wii titles are ''always'' assumed to be fundamentally different from their [[PlayStation 3]]/360 counterparts anyways, due to the Wii's inferior processing power and [[Waggle]]-based controls.)

* One of the biggest ways to kick up a fuss is to ask whether a hot console exclusive or console-exclusive bonus content will be ported to another system. Most fanboys of the system that exclusive belongs to will immediately lambast you with flames. The more rational amongst them will give you plenty of reasons why such a port [[Like You Would Really Do It|will never happen]], [[Not So Stoic|usually peppered with flames]]. You'll also probably be told that you're cheap and that you need to buy the original system, and/or will be told to go have your mommy buy it for you. This typically happens when [[PlayStation 3]] or 360 owners ask about things being ported to the other system, though it sometimes happens with situations like PSP games potentially being ported to the [[PlayStation 2]]. (The Wii and DS are often left out of this loop, due to fundamental hardware differences. Wii titles are ''always'' assumed to be fundamentally different from their [[PlayStation 3]]/360 counterparts anyways, due to the Wii's inferior processing power and [[Waggle]]-based controls.)

** This happened in a BIG way when rumors of a MGS4 port to the Xbox 360 surfaced, complete with images of a MGS4 360 skin. Whether they were real or not doesn't matter, it started a giant flame war. Said MGS4 port turned into the ''Metal Gear Solid: Rising''.

*** And this is coming up again with ''[[Street Fighter X Tekken]]'', since it was revealed that the 360 would get no exclusives whatsoever and the [[PlayStation 3]] will be getting '''five''' exclusive characters...two of them being [[Pac-Man]] and [[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]] (Okay...Bad Box Art Mega Man...but people are mad all the same)

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** Ohohoho~ Be sure to bring up the topic of [[Kingdom Hearts: 358 Days Over 2|Xion]], ''Kingdom Hearts''' biggest [[Base Breaker]], on a popular KH forum. Then call her a [[Mary Sue|Xarmy Sue]]. Be sure to wear your heat-resistant protective gear!

** More recently in ''[[Birth By Sleep]]'', we have the villain Vanitas who is revealed to be a ''seventh'' {{spoiler|Sora}} clone (if those numbers are crunched correctly...). Nomura is officially on thin ice, alongside half of the fanbase...

** Go to a Kingdom Hearts forum (ESPECIALLY KH Insider) and post a simple topic of, "Why do people hate Kairi?" Sit back and watch as a freaking ''cult'' of people say she's a bitchy, obsessive Sora fangirl that hates Riku, exists to only be a [[~~Distressed~~ Damsel]], and that Namine and/or Xion are 10x better. Some even have the latter part in their ''signature''.

** Go to a Kingdom Hearts forum (ESPECIALLY KH Insider) and post a simple topic of, "Why do people hate Kairi?" Sit back and watch as a freaking ''cult'' of people say she's a bitchy, obsessive Sora fangirl that hates Riku, exists to only be a [[Damsel in Distress]], and that Namine and/or Xion are 10x better. Some even have the latter part in their ''signature''.

*** Similarly, creating a topic like that regarding Xion and expect a similar response. I don't like Xion that much myself, but ''damn''. The hate regarding the poor girl is enough to match Kairi's [[Hate Dumb]]

** Oh, talk about the Disney portion ... especially upon talking upon various villains that should appear (i.e. [[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney film)|Frollo]], [[Beauty and the Beast|Gaston]], [[The Princess and the Frog|Facilier]], [[The Jungle Book (Disney film)|Shere Khan]]) ... you get bitched out by a bunch of Kingdom Hearts fans saying that that portion is stupid. While at the same time, you get Disney fans who bitch saying that Kingdom Hearts fails at representing Disney correctly.

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** The biggest case of backdraft in the history of this franchise is certainly the one regarding the ending of Mass Effect 3. Say ''anything'' about that ending that isn't distilled disgust. For best results, say it's a good ending and that Bioware shouldn't release some kind of DLC overriding it. Imply that those who don't like it [[True Art Is Incomprehensible|simply don't understand it]].

*** There's been a certain amount of backdraft against all the arguments about the endings as well. In particular, many people have gotten just plain sick of hearing about it and want to move on to other topics. There was also a case where some people who'd donated to the Child's Play charity said they wanted to withdraw their donations after learning the charity itself had no ties with the goal of Retake Mass Effect, which got a lot of people angry (including people from said movement), out of concern that they were using said charity to promote a cause other than helping sick kids.

* Bring up ''[[Warhammer]]'' in a ''[[Warcraft]]'' forum or vice versa, note the similarities, and enjoy the fireworks. In an attempt to prevent fires, many WAR posters started calling ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' "that other game", [[The Scottish Trope|The Game That Shall Not Be Named]] (TGTSNBN).

* Bring up ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]'' in a ''[[Warcraft]]'' forum or vice versa, note the similarities, and enjoy the fireworks. In an attempt to prevent fires, many WAR posters started calling ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' "that other game", [[The Scottish Trope|The Game That Shall Not Be Named]] (TGTSNBN).

** In a similar but even more flammable way, mention ''Warhammer40000'' in a ''[[Starcraft]]'' forum, and without any further action on your part, it will inevitably devolve into a massive flame war between the two settings.

* The fastest way to piss of the [[Nippon Ichi|NIS]] fan base is by being a graphics whore.

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*** Also, just go to any fan-forum and argue that the DLC was cut from the game to make extra money and should be free.

*** Also better to reserve your comments on how you feel about the word on the changes that were apparently made to ''[[Dragon Age]] II'' (welcome as an interesting change or polishing, or [[Ruined FOREVER|turning the series into]] "''[[Mass Effect]]'' [[Ruined FOREVER|with swords]]"?). Trying to mention it in any positive manner will have the flamethrowers hitting full force against you courtesy of /v/ and RPG Codex

* Yet another [[Game FAQs]] gem: go to the [[~~Punch Out|~~Punch-Out!!]] boards, and offer an opinion on whether the boxer in the SNES Super Punch-Out!! is Little Mac, or not Mac. Or even that who he is doesn't matter. Flame on!

* Yet another [[Game FAQs]] gem: go to the [[Punch-Out!!]] boards, and offer an opinion on whether the boxer in the SNES Super Punch-Out!! is Little Mac, or not Mac. Or even that who he is doesn't matter. Flame on!

* Say that you think that ''[[Mega Man Battle Network]] 4'' was the best of the BN games. Hell, saying that you like any of the BN games around fans of the other series will get you killed.

* Go to the [[America's Army]] forum and ask for an MP5. Or a knife. You will be slain. [[Cute Kitten|(Along with a kitten. Think of the kittens!)]] The reason for this is that although MP5's are used in the military, they aren't assigned as standard weapons for the units in the game. Most people who ''still'' ask for an MP5 [[Did Not Do the Research|didn't bother to read the other fifty-billion threads where this was explicated]].

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** Is Chell {{spoiler|going to be ok after she escaped the lab or has the [[Half Life|Combine]] destroyed everything and she's pretty much screwed}}? No two people will fully agree on the answer.

** Try saying that you did not think [[The Cake Is a Lie]] was funny at all. Just try it.

* If the topic of [[Metal Gear Solid 2 Sons of Liberty]] arises, don't mention that you liked [[The Scrappy|Raiden]]. It generally ends pretty badly.

* If the topic of [[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]] arises, don't mention that you liked [[The Scrappy|Raiden]]. It generally ends pretty badly.

** Similarly, The Boss in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater]]''. Admirable example of devotion and selflessness who gives the series a more thoughtful meaning, or unnecessary character who's too obsessed with patriotism to like? Additionally, fans of The Boss don't tend to get on with Raiden fans.

* FIFA vs Pro Evolution Soccer. Just put that as a topic title, and enjoy the nuclear fallout.

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* Krystalak and Obsidious in the game ''[[Godzilla]]: Unleashed'' are a surefire way to start a flame war just by the mere '''mentioning''' of their names. Are they two unique and original monsters added to the game? Or, would Atari have been better off using more monsters from the films? No two fans can ever agree.

** Obsidious also gets the dubious "honor" of being voted by the fandom to be featured in the game. Was he worthy of being featured in the games? Or, were the other potential new monsters (IE: Fire Lion, The Visitor, and Lightning Bug) better choices in the long run?

** Mention you think the [[~~Play Station~~ 2]] version of the game is superior to the Wii version or vice versa. Enjoy the flames.

** Mention you think the [[PlayStation 2]] version of the game is superior to the Wii version or vice versa. Enjoy the flames.

* A efficient way to start a [[Flame War]] is to compare ''[[Skyward Sword]]'' with ''[[Skyrim]],'' and side with either game, but not both. Cue Zelda and Elder Scrolls fans crawling out of the woodwork and throwing profane insults at each other. Curiously enough, [[Take a Third Option|liking both]] won't get you flamed.

** ''Skyward Sword,'' ''Skyrim'', and ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]-2'': All three games received perfect scores in ''Weekly Famitsu.'' [[Pass the Popcorn|Did they deserve it?]]

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* Go to a forum dedicated to competitive arcade gaming. Go to a thread for an arcade you don't go to, make a post for any reason whatsoever, and admit that you don't go to that arcade. Now, hope that you don't get verbally gangbanged.

* Go make a message board thread complaining about a feature. Say the word "skill" in any part of your post. It's like [[Press X to Die|pressing X to die]].

* No one is arguing that [[Media Watchdogs]] and [[Moral Guardians]] aren't absolutely right about [[Poop Socking]] being unhealthy. But whenever a law is proposed to require [[Anti ~~Poop Socking~~]] measures in games or find ways to legally ban [[Poop Socking]], watch the vigorous debates between people who think such laws are necessary to protect gamers and their possible dependents and people who think such measures are nanny-statist attempts to impinge on personal responsibility.

* No one is arguing that [[Media Watchdogs]] and [[Moral Guardians]] aren't absolutely right about [[Poop Socking]] being unhealthy. But whenever a law is proposed to require [[Anti-Poopsocking]] measures in games or find ways to legally ban [[Poop Socking]], watch the vigorous debates between people who think such laws are necessary to protect gamers and their possible dependents and people who think such measures are nanny-statist attempts to impinge on personal responsibility.

* Make a forum post asking why they censored the game for the Germans (No holocaust, swastikas), but decided not to bother appeasing the Chinese.

* Wanna get a bunch of people to go completely berserk on you? Make a forum post at Facepunch Studios saying that you pirated Garry's Mod, or imply it otherwise. ''Hoo boy.'' For example, try this: http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=769327