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* [[Complete Monster]] - Too many to list. It is [[What Do You Mean Its for Kids|ostensibly]] a childrens show, but considering the lines that some of the characters cross...ugh. Even one-time villain John Dee murders his ex-wife [[Nightmare Fuel|in a truly horrific way]], which is nothing compared to the tortures Darkseid or Mongul unleash on Superman (They do not just hurt him physically, they ''torture'' him, they drive him through things no human, or Kryptonian, should ''ever'' have to suffer). Then there is that guy that [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|stole forty cakes]]. [[And That's Terrible|And that's terrible]].
* [[Complete Monster]] - Too many to list. It is [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?|ostensibly]] a childrens show, but considering the lines that some of the characters cross...ugh. Even one-time villain John Dee murders his ex-wife [[Nightmare Fuel|in a truly horrific way]], which is nothing compared to the tortures Darkseid or Mongul unleash on Superman (They do not just hurt him physically, they ''torture'' him, they drive him through things no human, or Kryptonian, should ''ever'' have to suffer). Then there is that guy that [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|stole forty cakes]]. [[And That's Terrible|And that's terrible]].
** Speaking of [[Darkseid]], he deserves special mention as he continues his legacy as perhaps the biggest monster in the entire DCAU. One of the few villains that Superman actually wants to die which is really saying something.
** Speaking of [[Darkseid]], he deserves special mention as he continues his legacy as perhaps the biggest monster in the entire DCAU. One of the few villains that Superman actually wants to die which is really saying something.
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: The remix of the Justice League theme in 1870s period music in "The Once and Future Thing".
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: The remix of the Justice League theme in 1870s period music in "The Once and Future Thing".
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** In the finally, Superman [[I Am Not Left Handed|decided to show how powerful he really is]] to Darkseid, the Superman theme briefly and epically plays as he is flying straight at Darksied.
** In the finally, Superman [[I Am Not Left Handed|decided to show how powerful he really is]] to Darkseid, the Superman theme briefly and epically plays as he is flying straight at Darksied.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Of the Big 7, Flash. Of the recurring characters, Green Arrow, Vigilante and the Question.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Of the Big 7, Flash. Of the recurring characters, Green Arrow, Vigilante and the Question.
* [[Family Unfriendly Aesop]]: Remember that [[General Ripper]] from the first episode? The one ranting and raving about how awful that [[The Messiah|messianic]] Senator's plans for unilateral nuclear disarmament are? {{spoiler|Yeah, turns out he's ''right''}}.
* [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]]: Remember that [[General Ripper]] from the first episode? The one ranting and raving about how awful that [[The Messiah|messianic]] Senator's plans for unilateral nuclear disarmament are? {{spoiler|Yeah, turns out he's ''right''}}.
* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: The heavily lampshaded episode about the [[Anvilicious|destruction of innocent species habitats during offshore drilling]] became this after the Gulf oil spill.
* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: The heavily lampshaded episode about the [[Anvilicious|destruction of innocent species habitats during offshore drilling]] became this after the Gulf oil spill.
* [[Growing the Beard]] - This trope is expressly discussed in the Season 2 DVD. The producers felt that season one of ''Justice League'' was a competent production, improving as it progressed, but that it was in season two that the show became what they always wanted it to be. Many of the changes came about from their own disapproval and from listening to fan complaints. Bruce Timm explained that much of Season 1 was just trying to get the series started and they ended up rushing things where they should have taken more time. Among other items discussed:
* [[Growing the Beard]] - This trope is expressly discussed in the Season 2 DVD. The producers felt that season one of ''Justice League'' was a competent production, improving as it progressed, but that it was in season two that the show became what they always wanted it to be. Many of the changes came about from their own disapproval and from listening to fan complaints. Bruce Timm explained that much of Season 1 was just trying to get the series started and they ended up rushing things where they should have taken more time. Among other items discussed:
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* [[Karma Houdini]] - Villainess Killer Frost, easily one of the few supervillains in the DCAU in it [[For the Evulz]] (she likes killing people. That sums her up), kills left and right, freezes the very people who sided with her in the Luthor/Grodd scuffle alive, and still manages to survive all the way to the end, never even being arrested. The worst she ever got was when J'onn forced her to use her ice powers to stop an avalanche that endangered people.
* [[Karma Houdini]] - Villainess Killer Frost, easily one of the few supervillains in the DCAU in it [[For the Evulz]] (she likes killing people. That sums her up), kills left and right, freezes the very people who sided with her in the Luthor/Grodd scuffle alive, and still manages to survive all the way to the end, never even being arrested. The worst she ever got was when J'onn forced her to use her ice powers to stop an avalanche that endangered people.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: In ''Twilight'', [[Darkseid]] pulls off a positively brilliant [[Evil Plan]], [[Playing Both Sides]] in the conflict between Superman and Brainiac. He does it in a way that forces both of them to acknowledge that they need his help (or need to help him), even though both distrust and fully expect (or know) that he will betray them. By the end, he's incapacitated Superman and has Brainiac under his control and about to have all of his plans come to fruition. The only thing that stops him is a last minute [[Big Damn Heroes]] moment by Wonder Woman, Batman, and Orion. Had they been another minute late, Darkseid would have won.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: In ''Twilight'', [[Darkseid]] pulls off a positively brilliant [[Evil Plan]], [[Playing Both Sides]] in the conflict between Superman and Brainiac. He does it in a way that forces both of them to acknowledge that they need his help (or need to help him), even though both distrust and fully expect (or know) that he will betray them. By the end, he's incapacitated Superman and has Brainiac under his control and about to have all of his plans come to fruition. The only thing that stops him is a last minute [[Big Damn Heroes]] moment by Wonder Woman, Batman, and Orion. Had they been another minute late, Darkseid would have won.
* [[Moral Event Horizon]] - [[Enforced Trope|Enforced]] by the writers in ''A Better World'' for the Justice Lords. When the Justice League has turned the tables on the Justice Lords, the two teams are placed in a replica of the original trap, but [[Ironic Echo|with their roles reversed]]. When League Hawkgirl starts to escape the trap in the beginning, Lord Lantern blasts her hard enough that she spends most of the rest of the episode in the hospital. Later, when Lord Hawkgirl escapes the same way, not only does League Lantern ''not'' blast her, but when Lord Green Lantern follows her out he ''immediately tries to stab League Lantern in the throat!'' [[Word of God|DVD commentary]] reveals that the writers wanted it clear that, though they had [[Knight Templar|good intentions]] and might have turned out differently if they had [[Not So Different|come from different circumstances]], these are not [[Tragic Hero|tragic heroes]] or [[Anti Hero|anti-heroes]], they are well and truly ''[[Fallen Hero|bad people]]'' who deserve to be defeated and punished, as any other villain would be.
* [[Moral Event Horizon]] - [[Enforced Trope|Enforced]] by the writers in ''A Better World'' for the Justice Lords. When the Justice League has turned the tables on the Justice Lords, the two teams are placed in a replica of the original trap, but [[Ironic Echo|with their roles reversed]]. When League Hawkgirl starts to escape the trap in the beginning, Lord Lantern blasts her hard enough that she spends most of the rest of the episode in the hospital. Later, when Lord Hawkgirl escapes the same way, not only does League Lantern ''not'' blast her, but when Lord Green Lantern follows her out he ''immediately tries to stab League Lantern in the throat!'' [[Word of God|DVD commentary]] reveals that the writers wanted it clear that, though they had [[Knight Templar|good intentions]] and might have turned out differently if they had [[Not So Different|come from different circumstances]], these are not [[Tragic Hero|tragic heroes]] or [[Anti-Hero|anti-heroes]], they are well and truly ''[[Fallen Hero|bad people]]'' who deserve to be defeated and punished, as any other villain would be.
** Amazo in The Return. An otherwise interesting character, Amazo breaks through all of Earth's lines of defense. He has thus far avoided killing anyone in particular, but when it comes to Red Tornado, he apparently decides since he's an android, it's okay, and blows him up. This is muddied by the fact that Amazo is also an android, and that Red Tornado is a sentient being, complete with a look of complete horror right before he explodes. Callous murder of superheroes is not a nice thing to do. Red Tornado appears in subsequent episodes, but his return is never explained.
** Amazo in The Return. An otherwise interesting character, Amazo breaks through all of Earth's lines of defense. He has thus far avoided killing anyone in particular, but when it comes to Red Tornado, he apparently decides since he's an android, it's okay, and blows him up. This is muddied by the fact that Amazo is also an android, and that Red Tornado is a sentient being, complete with a look of complete horror right before he explodes. Callous murder of superheroes is not a nice thing to do. Red Tornado appears in subsequent episodes, but his return is never explained.
*** Should it have to be? Amazo restored Oa, he restored Red Tornado off screen.
*** Should it have to be? Amazo restored Oa, he restored Red Tornado off screen.