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** {{spoiler|The difference between the choices is also important in that "Then explain" demonstrates that Hisao is just like everyone else that fails to understand Rin, because he isn't even making the effort to understand. "I need to understand" shows the opposite, because it shows that while Hisao still doesn't understand Rin he is attempting to do so to a level that is practically desperate. The third choice, only available if Hiaso decides earlier that he wants to support Rin more than he wants to get close to her, is "It doesn't matter", and this also leads down the path to the good and neutral endings because Hisao is starting to accept that he and Rin may never be able to bridge the gap between them but might be able to be together regardless.}}
** {{spoiler|The difference between the choices is also important in that "Then explain" demonstrates that Hisao is just like everyone else that fails to understand Rin, because he isn't even making the effort to understand. "I need to understand" shows the opposite, because it shows that while Hisao still doesn't understand Rin he is attempting to do so to a level that is practically desperate. The third choice, only available if Hiaso decides earlier that he wants to support Rin more than he wants to get close to her, is "It doesn't matter", and this also leads down the path to the good and neutral endings because Hisao is starting to accept that he and Rin may never be able to bridge the gap between them but might be able to be together regardless.}}
* Rin's route has probably the most [[But Thou Must!]] in it, despite having the most choices. {{spoiler|Not only does it have the infamous six choices that all basically say the same thing, but she and Hisao have the same fight whether or not you choose "Then explain," it just changes the outcome and the timing of the fight. However, Rin herself is feeling a lot of [[But Thou Must!]] in her life when it comes to painting, like that it's the only thing she can do in her life whether she wants to or not, so in a way, it's rather fitting for her route to give the player some of that feeling as well, even if it's frustrating, to help them empathize with Rin.}}
* Rin's route has probably the most [[But Thou Must!]] in it, despite having the most choices. {{spoiler|Not only does it have the infamous six choices that all basically say the same thing, but she and Hisao have the same fight whether or not you choose "Then explain," it just changes the outcome and the timing of the fight. However, Rin herself is feeling a lot of [[But Thou Must!]] in her life when it comes to painting, like that it's the only thing she can do in her life whether she wants to or not, so in a way, it's rather fitting for her route to give the player some of that feeling as well, even if it's frustrating, to help them empathize with Rin.}}
* It's hard to call such a... potentially [[Squick|squicky]] fact brilliant, but it's there nonetheless: {{spoiler|Rin's route is the only one in which Hisao gives the heroine oral sex. Rin mentions a couple of times that [[Trademark Favorite Food|her favorite fruit is the orange]], and one scene actually has Hisao feeding her oranges, which is implied to be something he does rather often after she locks herself up in the atelier. Oranges are well known for improving the taste and smell of sex fluids, and are highly recommended to people who plan on being given oral sex in order to make the experience more pleasant to the other party.}}
* It's hard to call such a... potentially [[squick]]y fact brilliant, but it's there nonetheless: {{spoiler|Rin's route is the only one in which Hisao gives the heroine oral sex. Rin mentions a couple of times that [[Trademark Favorite Food|her favorite fruit is the orange]], and one scene actually has Hisao feeding her oranges, which is implied to be something he does rather often after she locks herself up in the atelier. Oranges are well known for improving the taste and smell of sex fluids, and are highly recommended to people who plan on being given oral sex in order to make the experience more pleasant to the other party.}}
** It's also sort of symbolic in that {{spoiler|Hisao states that Iwanako used to peel him apples in a similar manner while he was in the hospital. Y'know, apples and oranges - it plays in to the overall themes of the route and the aesop that you don't need to completely understand a person to love them.}}
** It's also sort of symbolic in that {{spoiler|Hisao states that Iwanako used to peel him apples in a similar manner while he was in the hospital. Y'know, apples and oranges - it plays in to the overall themes of the route and the aesop that you don't need to completely understand a person to love them.}}
* One of Rin's famously funny lines is "Underpants are the soul of a girl. You shouldn't peek at someone else's soul." There are exactly two scenes where we see Rin's underpants, and they both happen around the time of Rin revealing something important, intentionally or not. She's showing Hisao her soul.
* One of Rin's famously funny lines is "Underpants are the soul of a girl. You shouldn't peek at someone else's soul." There are exactly two scenes where we see Rin's underpants, and they both happen around the time of Rin revealing something important, intentionally or not. She's showing Hisao her soul.
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** Not only that, but {{spoiler|death by fire is...a very painful and not at ''all'' pretty way to go. Assuming Mrs. Ikezawa didn't pass out or die earlier from smoke inhalation, [[Nightmare Fuel|Hanako would have had to hear her screaming in agony, see her skin burn off her face and split, turn red...]]}}
** Not only that, but {{spoiler|death by fire is...a very painful and not at ''all'' pretty way to go. Assuming Mrs. Ikezawa didn't pass out or die earlier from smoke inhalation, [[Nightmare Fuel|Hanako would have had to hear her screaming in agony, see her skin burn off her face and split, turn red...]]}}
*** And God only knows how long it took for the fire department to come. {{spoiler|Hanako could have been laying, burnt and traumatized, under the horribly burnt and mangled corpse of her mother, for... God, even fifteen minutes would seem like an eternity in that situation, and it could have been ''much'' longer than that, maybe even ''hours''...}}
*** And God only knows how long it took for the fire department to come. {{spoiler|Hanako could have been laying, burnt and traumatized, under the horribly burnt and mangled corpse of her mother, for... God, even fifteen minutes would seem like an eternity in that situation, and it could have been ''much'' longer than that, maybe even ''hours''...}}
**** Even more horrifying, though is that '' {{spoiler|the fire wasn't what gave her the massive social issues she has}}''. Instead, it was {{spoiler|the [[Humans Are Bastards|reactions of her "friends" afterwards]] that truly did it, making her want to become an [[Unperson]].}}
**** Even more horrifying, though is that '' {{spoiler|the fire wasn't what gave her the massive social issues she has}}''. Instead, it was {{spoiler|the [[Humans Are the Real Monsters|reactions of her "friends" afterwards]] that truly did it, making her want to become an [[Unperson]].}}
***** {{spoiler|What probably causes her to act the most defensively around people is the fact that no matter how you look at her, you end up either put off by her body or compelled to protect her for the same reason. This is why Lilly is the only one she's able to interact with - since she's blind, she has no prejudices over Hanako's appearance and therefore treats her as an equal, a fact highlighted by the way the both of them need each other to complement the other's weaknesses - sight for Lilly, social interactions for Hanako. She's not scared because of her past as much as scared about the fact no one will consider her an actual person in the future.}}
***** {{spoiler|What probably causes her to act the most defensively around people is the fact that no matter how you look at her, you end up either put off by her body or compelled to protect her for the same reason. This is why Lilly is the only one she's able to interact with - since she's blind, she has no prejudices over Hanako's appearance and therefore treats her as an equal, a fact highlighted by the way the both of them need each other to complement the other's weaknesses - sight for Lilly, social interactions for Hanako. She's not scared because of her past as much as scared about the fact no one will consider her an actual person in the future.}}
* Think about it. How [[Fridge Horror|horrifying]] would it be [[Adult Fear|if you can hear one of your friends in distress, but you can't see them, have no way of finding them, and don't know how serious the problem is]]? Congratulations, you now know what Lilly was feeling when {{spoiler|Hisao suffers a heart attack during their holiday vacation.}}
* Think about it. How [[Fridge Horror|horrifying]] would it be [[Adult Fear|if you can hear one of your friends in distress, but you can't see them, have no way of finding them, and don't know how serious the problem is]]? Congratulations, you now know what Lilly was feeling when {{spoiler|Hisao suffers a heart attack during their holiday vacation.}}
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** Lilly makes a remark on her methods and the associated difficulties in her route.
** Lilly makes a remark on her methods and the associated difficulties in her route.
{{quote|'''Lilly''': There are ways around it. Some meals are more difficult to cook than others because of being unable to see what I'm doing, but it usually only takes a little more time. Fingers can double as very useful measuring tools, for example.
{{quote|'''Lilly''': There are ways around it. Some meals are more difficult to cook than others because of being unable to see what I'm doing, but it usually only takes a little more time. Fingers can double as very useful measuring tools, for example.
'''Hisao Narrating''': It makes sense, but she'd have to be pretty careful not to hurt herself <ref>Like when she slices her finger with the knife</ref>. I wonder how many times that's happened, since she's cooked alone for possibly years while Akira worked and her parents were gone. }}
'''Hisao Narrating''': It makes sense, but she'd have to be pretty careful not to hurt herself.<ref>Like when she slices her finger with the knife</ref> I wonder how many times that's happened, since she's cooked alone for possibly years while Akira worked and her parents were gone. }}
* Rin wears the male uniform. And she wears a tie. Which shouldn't be possible because, you know, she doesn't has any arms! I know that she uses her feet to accomplish things other people use with their hands, but this is just ridiculous!
* Rin wears the male uniform. And she wears a tie. Which shouldn't be possible because, you know, she doesn't has any arms! I know that she uses her feet to accomplish things other people use with their hands, but this is just ridiculous!
** It could be a clip-on. And if you've seen any documentaries about real people who can't use either arm for various reasons, and the dexterity they develop in their legs/feet, it's not very far-fetched. A tie knot isn't that complex, and Rin could probably even crochet if she wanted to.
** It could be a clip-on. And if you've seen any documentaries about real people who can't use either arm for various reasons, and the dexterity they develop in their legs/feet, it's not very far-fetched. A tie knot isn't that complex, and Rin could probably even crochet if she wanted to.